Would Voice commands be useful

From my experience with phone menus, it's a helluva lot faster to enter a series of keystrokes than to get a voice-activated phone system to get me to the correct person.
 

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no. Voice commands would not be useful for me. Dont need it. Dont want it.

Would only be acceptable to me as an optional, payable module or a special, more expensive camera version. Dont see any reason why i should pay for it.

If blind people need voice command in a camera to take great photographs, they shall pay for it. ;D
 
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dilbert said:
Whilst the comment says "button presses can be parallel", I'd like to see someone actually try doing that...

It is much easier to push buttons in parallel than it is to speak in parallel. (Although I would not rule out the possibility of persons with multiple personality disorder attempting to do so. Perhaps you have a greater familiarity with such conditions than the rest of us have.)

dilbert said:
If you have no use for voice commands in the context that I'm referring to (as a way of selecting a custom setup) then I would also suppose you have no use for the "C" positions on the mode dial either (I have all three setup.)

I would be willing to wager a great deal of money that is is faster to change the positions on a mode dial than it is to speak the change and have an automated device recognize the command and respond.

dilbert said:
As many would say, you're only limited by your imagination.

Unfortunately, many would be wrong. We are also limited by human physiology, which was retroreflection's point. Try reading th comment below again. Perhaps it will sink in eventually.

retroreflection said:
Voice commands are slower than buttons. This is both in the machine (no words are milliseconds in duration) and in the human (muscle memory activations can approach reflex speeds rather than conscious choice speeds).
 
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retroreflection said:
Voice commands are slower than buttons. This is both in the machine (no words are milliseconds in duration) and in the human (muscle memory activations can approach reflex speeds rather than conscious choice speeds).

It should also be mentioned that in order for voice commands to work, you have to enunciate clearly and distinctly. This results in those voice commands being given at a slower rate than one would ordinarily speak.
 
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I like the idea of being able to change aperture and speed settings without taking my eye off the viewfinder.

I have a VR system in my car for navigation, thought I'd never use it, but eventually found it very helpful. Very similar concept to what is described in this thread. Most of the negative comments here could be said about the car VR system as well, but I'd still find it useful.

I probably wouldn't pay a lot of money to have it, or accept other limitations/performance degradations to the camera either. But I'm still intrigued.
 
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To do a simple change of aperture or shutter speed, there is no way that voice commands are going to be as fast as the two control wheels in the hands of someone who has lots of time with that model of camera...... but that's only part of the story.....

Typically, we use a finger and a thumb to control those two parameters and never need top take our eyse off of the viewfinder. If that was all we controlled, then voice recognition would be a step backwards in efficiency.... but what happens when you want to change the ISO? In this case, you drop the camera down to see the shoulder display and ISO button, press it, twirl the wheel to the desired ISO value, then raise the camera back up to the eye....

With voice recognition, you keep your finger and thumb on shutter speed and aperture and say "ISO 640" and it works faster than just using buttons and wheels.... or "compensate plus 2".... This is not a case where you have to choose one method or another, it's pick from the best of the two methods as fits YOUR style of shooting....

If the 7D3 had voice recognition, I'd use it. Primarily I would use the buttons and wheels, but I can think of many cases where voice commands would simplify the task.....
 
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I've missed shots because of not being able to switch from One Shot focus to AI Servo fast enough. You are shooting static objects when suddenly a moving object comes into view and you can't achieve focus. I think it depends on the type of photographer and the camera body. People shooting all the time will have their cameras set up so that changes like this can be made instantly, and they will be very familiar with their cameras operation. With people who don't shoot so often and/or camera bodies that don't have many external controls and need to be adjusted through the menu system I think it would be useful to be able to switch back and forth between certain things, such as focus modes, quickly using a voice command. It would have to be reliable, though, and this could be difficult to achieve.
 
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I'm sorry, but I don't see any possible way that voice command would be fast enough to change you from one shot to servo in that situation where you can't do it manually. You won't be able to just shout out AI SERVO and it change. I'm sure you would have to press a button and it would have to start listening to what your saying. Otherwise my camera is gonna be changing setting when ever I'm out with another photographer and any topic of setting comes up.

This idea just seems rediculous to me.
 
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LostBoyNZ said:
Would it work like security camera footage in movies and TV? Saying "Enhance... enhance..." will keep zooming in and bringing out more amazingly hidden detail? If so, I might be keen for that.


Haha my girlfriend hates watching CSI with me because everytime they enhance a photo I lose my mind.
 
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Don Haines said:
It should also be mentioned that in order for voice commands to work, you have to enunciate clearly and distinctly. This results in those voice commands being given at a slower rate than one would ordinarily speak.

In my experience, talking too slow is a common mistake that users make. Speaking at a normal rate works far better for me.

For a system that is trained to your voice, simple 2 word commands work well. As far as speed, if a two word command executes the setting of several parameters, then you would still be digging thru menus long after the voice command was executed.

Properly done voice software is fast, there are lots of examples of poorly done software, but the good stuff works quickly and accurately. Don't think of Siri as typical, its only typical of the worst of the worst.
 
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Tyroop said:
I've missed shots because of not being able to switch from One Shot focus to AI Servo fast enough. You are shooting static objects when suddenly a moving object comes into view and you can't achieve focus. I think it depends on the type of photographer and the camera body. People shooting all the time will have their cameras set up so that changes like this can be made instantly, and they will be very familiar with their cameras operation. With people who don't shoot so often and/or camera bodies that don't have many external controls and need to be adjusted through the menu system I think it would be useful to be able to switch back and forth between certain things, such as focus modes, quickly using a voice command. It would have to be reliable, though, and this could be difficult to achieve.

One some models you can assign a button for that switch. Or use the Custom Function settings on the mode dial. Quicker than a voice command IMO.
 
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Tyroop said:
That's right. That's why I said it depends on the camera body.

I would have thought that the camera models on which they would put the voice command would be the models that would have the ability to assign it to buttons. My guess is that for lower end models implementation of voice commands (microphone/speakers/menu trees) would be more complex than software or adding a new button.
 
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Kwwund said:
I like the idea of being able to change aperture and speed settings without taking my eye off the viewfinder.

You can already do that, surely? I change aperture by turning the big circular dial on the back, and (shutter?) speed with the dial on the top. And ISO by pressing SET while turning the top dial. I can do all these (and do all the time) without moving my eye from the viewfinder, and the in-viewfinder info tells me what settings I've chosen...

On a general note, I love how people putting forward thoughtful reasons why something might not be useful, or might be less useful than its proponent thinks, are automatically 'unimaginative naysayers' ::)
 
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