Would you trust a 1Dx body with a million shutter count?
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Jokes aside!Mikehit] Would you trust a 1Dx body with a million shutter count? [/quote] Yep! At least until the next actuation ;-) [quote author=Mikehit said:
I do not read from your post, how many actuations this last of the three shutters has.
Does this mean this particular one has 1 million or that those three had an average of 333.333 each?
Last replacement Feb this year would make me think that this shutter should have less than 100.000 actuations, but who knows...?
I think this is a really important information. As well as who did the replacement (I guess Canon CPS).
Do you have information on this from the dealer?
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keithcooper
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It depends - I've seen huge shutter counts on such cameras mounted in automated systems, where the camera itself looks like it's just come out of the box.BeenThere said:
Definitely somewhere you need far more info if it's not really cheap (and perhaps even more if it is...)
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Maximilian said:
The dealer says it was done by CPS. They were not able to tell me how old the camera is so unfortunately I can't work out an average per month.
Doing a bit of research, apparently after 1,000,000 count the shutter actuation counter stops working and Canon don't re-set it even on replacing the shutter.
The price sounds very attractive, but the 1,000,000 is a bit of a concern.....
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To me this sounds like the shutter count is the summary of all three shutters (but this should be confirmed).Mikehit said:
If so and if the last shutter replacement was in Feb by CPS, then my guess would be that this one is in good conditions.
If the price is really attractive and the rest of the camera body is looking well, I suppose I'd go for it, if I was looking for a 1DX.
But maybe you or the dealer could get an answer from CPS about the shutter count when they replaced it.
Depending on the country you sometimes have (limited) warranty on spare parts and services (one good thing in the EU).
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Maximilian said:
I called CPS and even if I buy the camera they will not give me the service history without the permission of the previous owner but hopefully they would let me know the shutter count it was last replaced, but by then I have bought it.
The camera would come with a 6-month warranty.
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Its somewhat like milege on a car. You might replace the engine and transmission, but eventually other parts wear out and fail. Virtually everything can be replaced, the sensor tends to die more with age in years, they get more and more noise as time goes by, but you don't need to worry about that. The LCD display might dim over time, its expensive to replace. The switches, particularly the shutter and focus switch, joy stick or any other frequently used ones have limited lives and can be replaced.
As long as the price is right, I would not worry. Somewhere around $1700-1800 seems right to me, if it looks reasonable. You can get a pretty clean one with low actuation s in the $2400 range, the price drops sharply as actuation's go up.
As long as the price is right, I would not worry. Somewhere around $1700-1800 seems right to me, if it looks reasonable. You can get a pretty clean one with low actuation s in the $2400 range, the price drops sharply as actuation's go up.
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tomscott
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For the 3-500 I would get a lower mileage one. Have to think about how much more mileage you will put on it and the cost of the repairs down the line. $500 doesn't really go far repairing these, ends up more an economical write off which I would suggest is the reason the previous owner moved it on.
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I wouldn't consider it personally. That's a lot of use. I purchased my 1dx about 6 months ago for 1500USD with 250k. From what It sounds like, it was a better deal than I anticipated but I don't think the market for used 1dx is very large. Spending a bit more money on a lower usage one, or sitting on the money so you can jump right away would be my thoughts.
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Mikehit said:
The serial number, if you can get it might tell you the approx age, but I would not worry about that, even if it was one of the first. Since its been to Canon for a cleaning and checkup, I'd doubt if any service is going to be required soon, they usually replace anything that is not right.
If you have CPS Gold or higher, any service charges will be reasonable. Canon seems to take good care of 1 series owners. They certainly treated me right the two times I had service for my 1 series bodies.
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Problem with sensor getting "too old" depends also on the time of being exposed to a light which is affected not only by shutter count but also by shooting a video especially with the sun in the frame...
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The camera was released in March of 2012.....
1,000,000 actuations is 200,000 per year, or an average of 548 per day..... That is a lot of wear and tear!
The electronics has spent a lot of time powered up.... it will be degraded. The capacitors are not as good as they were before, the A/D circuitry will be noisier, and your sensor will be noisier, check for hot or dead pixels.... and don't forget the wear and tear on the mirror mechanism and all the switches, knobs, and buttons. Sealing will not be what it once was either as gaskets wear out and rubber degrades.
Personally, If I had that camera, I would be trying to sell it too......
1,000,000 actuations is 200,000 per year, or an average of 548 per day..... That is a lot of wear and tear!
The electronics has spent a lot of time powered up.... it will be degraded. The capacitors are not as good as they were before, the A/D circuitry will be noisier, and your sensor will be noisier, check for hot or dead pixels.... and don't forget the wear and tear on the mirror mechanism and all the switches, knobs, and buttons. Sealing will not be what it once was either as gaskets wear out and rubber degrades.
Personally, If I had that camera, I would be trying to sell it too......
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I recently bought a 1DX with just over 500k on the counter, and it had a new shutter at 450k. The price was at the lower end of the expected range. There are signs of physical wear and tear around the body, but the controls, screens and so on are perfect. Since then I have been working it very hard. I consider it to have been a great buy. It isn't showroom-pretty, but it's performance is indistinguishable from new.
I had been tossing up between a 5D MkIV and a 1DX MkII, and compromised by getting the 5D Mk IV plus the used 1DX. They're a perfect pair with a 7D MkII as a second action body. FWIW the 7D MkII is a match for the 1DX in AI Servo mode, the tracking is just fantastic. Obviously the 1DX pulls ahead with file IQ, particularly when the iso gets past 1600.
I know plenty of sports shooters who have run 1-Series bodies up over a million clicks, some on the original shutter. I retired my 1D MkIV at around 650k clicks all original, and it functioned like new right up to the sale date.
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I had been tossing up between a 5D MkIV and a 1DX MkII, and compromised by getting the 5D Mk IV plus the used 1DX. They're a perfect pair with a 7D MkII as a second action body. FWIW the 7D MkII is a match for the 1DX in AI Servo mode, the tracking is just fantastic. Obviously the 1DX pulls ahead with file IQ, particularly when the iso gets past 1600.
I know plenty of sports shooters who have run 1-Series bodies up over a million clicks, some on the original shutter. I retired my 1D MkIV at around 650k clicks all original, and it functioned like new right up to the sale date.
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