Multiple cameras coming to the new Cinema EOS R lineup. Along with a new XC series camera. [CR2]

PureClassA · Aug 7, 2020

The freaking DUAL GAIN sensor with all that and an RF MOUNT for $6k ?!?!?!?! DEAR LORD!!

PureClassA · Aug 7, 2020

And 2k DCI 180???? Yes Please

marathonman · Aug 7, 2020

PureClassA said:
The freaking DUAL GAIN sensor with all that and an RF MOUNT for $6k ?!?!?!?! DEAR LORD!!

Take my money. NOW!

CarlMillerPhoto · Aug 7, 2020

Hmm R200 seems somewhat uninspired...no IBIS? Only 4:2:0 8 bit? A year and a half ago this would've been amazing, but we can get a used C200 (with raw) or an R5 (w/ internal 10 bit) for close to the same price... The dual LP-E6 is interesting, hopefully that’ll make them hot swapable at least. Hoping a C100 style articulating screen and removal grip are still incorporated.

I’d like a C/R100 with Ibis and 10 bit for $4500

DBounce · Aug 7, 2020

That R300 has my interest.

PureClassA · Aug 7, 2020

DBounce said:
That R300 has my interest.

At $6299 it just got EVERYONES interest

wanderer23 · Aug 7, 2020

I've completely lost interest in the ~3500 one now. But the R300!!! that dual gain sensor is truly special.

all that said though, komodo now appears really cheap....

cpreston · Aug 7, 2020

CarlMillerPhoto said:
Hmm R200 seems somewhat uninspired...no IBIS? Only 4:2:0 8 bit? A year and a half ago this would've been amazing, but we can get a used C200 (with raw) or an R5 (w/ internal 10 bit) for close to the same price... The dual LP-E6 is interesting, hopefully that’ll make them hot swapable at least. Hoping a C100 style articulating screen and removal grip are still incorporated.

I’d like a C/R100 with Ibis and 10 bit for $4500

I think this camera is the C100 replacement. It doesn't have much in common with the C200 based on specs. You're right that the C100 replacement should have a IBIS, though.

bbasiaga · Aug 7, 2020

Not a video guy, but seen a lot of videos on the R5 lately.....is the lack of IBIS in these cameras a result of the weird artifacts it creates when panning in video? From what the reviewers were showing it can change the framing ever so slightly as it bumps the sensor around, and can be noticeable in some types of shots.

landon · Aug 7, 2020

But god only give me 2 kidneys!

SecureGSM · Aug 7, 2020

Sounds like Canon ditched CF Express cards Out of Cinema EOS R. I wonder why

NorskHest · Aug 7, 2020

CarlMillerPhoto said:
Hmm R200 seems somewhat uninspired...no IBIS? Only 4:2:0 8 bit? A year and a half ago this would've been amazing, but we can get a used C200 (with raw) or an R5 (w/ internal 10 bit) for close to the same price... The dual LP-E6 is interesting, hopefully that’ll make them hot swapable at least. Hoping a C100 style articulating screen and removal grip are still incorporated.

I’d like a C/R100 with Ibis and 10 bit for $4500

I hope Canon never puts Ibis in a cinema camera. It is just not professional looking with all wobbles that’s what gimbals are for. The codecs will probably be H.265 so most of the footage will be terrible to edit. The specs for all these cameras are great but again using RF glass for cinema is not a wise thing to do. But the RF to EF with the variable ND that is a wonderful set up on a small little body like this. The RF mount I believe will make EF glass even more valuable because of the adaptability.

SpaceGhost · Aug 7, 2020

I just want the R5 with a bigger heat sink, proper dual card support, and xlr support. I'm open to form factors. I don't see why this would practically double the price but I'd accept that (especially if the 1DX line offers that).

However, based on this rumor... why would they then offer only S35 for double the R5 price (with no IBIS too)? I'm still hoping the RF mount on the cinema cameras would be better at these prices.

-pekr- · Aug 7, 2020

Well, apparently I am not understanding the video,as those cameras, apart from R300, seemkind of underspecced. Why the heck no IBIS? Shouldn't it become natural part of most high end releases nowadays? 8 bit, no raw, for such a money?

NorskHest · Aug 7, 2020

SecureGSM said:
Sounds like Canon ditched CF Express cards Out of Cinema EOS R. I wonder why

This will have something to do with the cripple hammer effect. Them doing SD cards with H.265 files at IPB compression (most likely) is a way of protecting their ef cinema line

MaxDiesel · Aug 7, 2020

bbasiaga said:
Not a video guy, but seen a lot of videos on the R5 lately.....is the lack of IBIS in these cameras a result of the weird artifacts it creates when panning in video? From what the reviewers were showing it can change the framing ever so slightly as it bumps the sensor around, and can be noticeable in some types of shots.

Exactly and thats why we will most likely never see IBIS in a Cinema Camera tho I see it coming to the XC Line due to its fixed lens and smaller sensor they will be able to optimise the IBIS to function properly with an IS in the pense. I’m hoping for the perfect grab and go B-C Cam.

wanderer23 · Aug 7, 2020

Why do i feel like sony will drop an amazing FX6 after these canons get announced? Dragging my feet now.

lightingb · Aug 7, 2020

This means that you are not going to see huge movements by Canon in terms of R5 video updates. These cameras are the video solution. But odd that Canon decided to take a video based marketing approach to the R5.

SecureGSM · Aug 7, 2020

NorskHest said:
This will have something to do with the cripple hammer effect. Them doing SD cards with H.265 files at IPB compression (most likely) is a way of protecting their ef cinema line

in my opinion, CFE cards runs way too hot as we found out recently and throttle themselves down when reached a certain temperature. so SD card is naturaly a cooler option

. they may consider using a lower bandwidth codec to fit in...