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Multiple cameras coming to the new Cinema EOS R lineup. Along with a new XC series camera. [CR2]

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Posted onAug 7, 2020 at 11:50 AM
Updated onUpdated on Sep 25, 2020 at 10:12 AM

I have been told that the new RF mount Cinema EOS cameras will be part of a new lined called Cinema EOS R.

It looks like the rumor from a few days ago are specifications from various cameras if the specifications below are true.

Please keep in mind these are base specifications and don’t paint the whole picture of each camera.

Canon Cinema EOS C50 (Name not confirmed)

  • Super 35mm 4K sensor (same as the Cinema EOS C200)
  • No IBIS
  • RF Mount
  • Internal ND (10 Stops)
  • CLog 2 & CLog 3
  • 4:2:0 8bit internally onto SD cards up to 4K60 & 1080/120
  • No RAW
  • Dual LP-E6NH battery slot
  • Price: $3499 USD

Canon Cinema EOS C70 (Name not confirmed)

  • Super 35mm 4K DGO sensor (same as the Cinema EOS C300 Mark III)
  • No IBIS
  • RF Mount
  • Internal ND (10 Stops)
  • CLog 2 & CLog 3
  • 4:2:2 10bit onto SD cards up to 4K120 and 2K180
  • No RAW capability internally at launch
  • BP-A batteries
  • Price: $6299 USD

Canon XF505

  • Replacement for the XF205
  • Same 1″ sensor as the XF705
  • 12G-SDI output and SD cards
  • An integrated zoom lens with 15x zoom
  • BP-A batteries

Canon XC20

  • Replacement for the XC10/XC15
  • Same 1″ sensor as the XF705
  • CFexpress slot for internal RAW recording
  • SD cards for XF-AVC/MP4 recording
  • An integrated lens with 10x zoom and constant f2.8 aperture
  • LP-E6NH batteries
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CarlMillerPhoto

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Hmm R200 seems somewhat uninspired...no IBIS? Only 4:2:0 8 bit? A year and a half ago this would've been amazing, but we can get a used C200 (with raw) or an R5 (w/ internal 10 bit) for close to the same price... The dual LP-E6 is interesting, hopefully that’ll make them hot swapable at least. Hoping a C100 style articulating screen and removal grip are still incorporated.

I’d like a C/R100 with Ibis and 10 bit for $4500
 
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wanderer23

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I've completely lost interest in the ~3500 one now. But the R300!!! that dual gain sensor is truly special.

all that said though, komodo now appears really cheap....
 
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cpreston

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CarlMillerPhoto said:
Hmm R200 seems somewhat uninspired...no IBIS? Only 4:2:0 8 bit? A year and a half ago this would've been amazing, but we can get a used C200 (with raw) or an R5 (w/ internal 10 bit) for close to the same price... The dual LP-E6 is interesting, hopefully that’ll make them hot swapable at least. Hoping a C100 style articulating screen and removal grip are still incorporated.

I’d like a C/R100 with Ibis and 10 bit for $4500
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I think this camera is the C100 replacement. It doesn't have much in common with the C200 based on specs. You're right that the C100 replacement should have a IBIS, though.
 
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bbasiaga

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Not a video guy, but seen a lot of videos on the R5 lately.....is the lack of IBIS in these cameras a result of the weird artifacts it creates when panning in video? From what the reviewers were showing it can change the framing ever so slightly as it bumps the sensor around, and can be noticeable in some types of shots.
 
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CarlMillerPhoto said:
Hmm R200 seems somewhat uninspired...no IBIS? Only 4:2:0 8 bit? A year and a half ago this would've been amazing, but we can get a used C200 (with raw) or an R5 (w/ internal 10 bit) for close to the same price... The dual LP-E6 is interesting, hopefully that’ll make them hot swapable at least. Hoping a C100 style articulating screen and removal grip are still incorporated.

I’d like a C/R100 with Ibis and 10 bit for $4500
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I hope Canon never puts Ibis in a cinema camera. It is just not professional looking with all wobbles that’s what gimbals are for. The codecs will probably be H.265 so most of the footage will be terrible to edit. The specs for all these cameras are great but again using RF glass for cinema is not a wise thing to do. But the RF to EF with the variable ND that is a wonderful set up on a small little body like this. The RF mount I believe will make EF glass even more valuable because of the adaptability.
 
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I just want the R5 with a bigger heat sink, proper dual card support, and xlr support. I'm open to form factors. I don't see why this would practically double the price but I'd accept that (especially if the 1DX line offers that).

However, based on this rumor... why would they then offer only S35 for double the R5 price (with no IBIS too)? I'm still hoping the RF mount on the cinema cameras would be better at these prices.
 
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MaxDiesel

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bbasiaga said:
Not a video guy, but seen a lot of videos on the R5 lately.....is the lack of IBIS in these cameras a result of the weird artifacts it creates when panning in video? From what the reviewers were showing it can change the framing ever so slightly as it bumps the sensor around, and can be noticeable in some types of shots.
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Exactly and thats why we will most likely never see IBIS in a Cinema Camera tho I see it coming to the XC Line due to its fixed lens and smaller sensor they will be able to optimise the IBIS to function properly with an IS in the pense. I’m hoping for the perfect grab and go B-C Cam.
 
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wanderer23

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Why do i feel like sony will drop an amazing FX6 after these canons get announced? Dragging my feet now.
 
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lightingb

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This means that you are not going to see huge movements by Canon in terms of R5 video updates. These cameras are the video solution. But odd that Canon decided to take a video based marketing approach to the R5.
 
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This will have something to do with the cripple hammer effect. Them doing SD cards with H.265 files at IPB compression (most likely) is a way of protecting their ef cinema line
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in my opinion, CFE cards runs way too hot as we found out recently and throttle themselves down when reached a certain temperature. so SD card is naturaly a cooler option :). they may consider using a lower bandwidth codec to fit in...
 
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