From the world of wacky
Received an email stating Canon would be adding another kit lens to the Rebel kits.
It would look something like: EF-S 18-120 f/3.5-5.6 IS
I don’t think a kit lens between the 18-55 and 18-200 would be such a bad idea.
Big grain of salt on this one and add some pepper.
cr
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Don’t they already have something between the 18-55 and the 18-200? The EF-S 17-85 IS would seem to be a big overlap with this proposed new lens. Come to think of it, so is the venerable EF 28-135 IS (which is basically the equivalent of the 17-85 on full frame).
I think I preffer the idea of a EF-S 18-90mm which was rumored a few months back. I’m sure it wouldn’t match the 17-55mm for quality, but if it can significantly improve on the 18-85 then I’d be happy. Of course if they can improve on the 18-85 as well as extend the range to 18-120 then all the better I guess…
If it’s optically better than the 17-85mm then why not… Although 120mm seems a bit much, too close to the 18-200mm if you ask me.
But please Canon: Metal Mount + USM + non-rotating front element.
I would think it would be lighter and below the 17-85 in build quality. Perhaps a lens that adds $100 to the 18-55 kit. It wouldn’t be a showstopper if it was done.
I don’t personally think it’s realistic to expect such a lens, but stranger things have happened.
CR Guy
Not a hope of a metal mount, USM or non rotating front element if this rumor is true. :)
EF-S 18-120mm 1:3.5-5.6 IS USM for less than 300$ That would be very nice.
18-85?
This could be an answer to the lens which is provided with the Panasonic DMC-GH1 …
if its a stock lense in no way it would overlap the 17-85… USM not a chance, non rotating front not a chance, IQ like it not a chance, and i just wont start speaking of the metal mount….
the 28-135 is all that, maybe it could shift to a 20 100 but its difficult because it is a EFS lens and its probably hard to get a wider lens with no barrel roll and vignetting done with such a wide range of zoom.
Maybe it won’t overlap the 17-85 because it will be its replacement? (there were rumors about a 17-85 replacement in december)
If such a lens came out, I bet it will be in addition to the current EF-S 18-55 IS — remember that this lens is just one generation of Rebels old, having been introduced with the 450D. So, just as there are 50D kits with the 17-85 and others with the 18-200, there could be different “single zoom” rebel kits.
Given the price sensitivity of the entry-level DSLR market Canon cannot afford to offer only a more expensive zoom lens as they would miss certain price points which will be important for the novice DSLR buyers.
That’s what I was thinking, a special lens to go with the new ‘movie mode’….
wow….ANOTHER plastic fantastic… people are screaming at canon to upgrade its pro level work horse lenses and its going to give us another toy kit? Oh goody…. with a strategy like that, its no wonder there are fewer white lenses out there these days
honestly i bet everyone here would love canon more if they did something “L” on the ef-s mount. would love a 24-105 f4L equiv for ef-s. I could sacrifice build quality but please, as long as the IQ matches that lens, there’s no price below 500 i won’t pay.
I sure hope Canon isn’t following Nikon in their quest to release 18-xxx lenses.
Nikon ONLY has 6 18-xxx zooms…, 8 if you count the 16-85 & 17-55 zooms.
I can’t help but wonder how many other professional lenses Nikon could have released if they wouldn’t have wasted as much time on their 18-xxx series. They probably could have a lineup very similar to Canon’s L line.
18-55 VR
18-55 ED
18-70
18-105
18-135
18-200
Canon will lauch the EF-S 18-56mm … =P
What ever they will release, currently they are not able to deliver a 24-70 2.8 in germany.
If the 18-120 is a 2.8 in L-quality i will be satified otherwise i hope they will make the lens on my whish-list availabel.
Anything else – does not matter ;o)
I agree with your assessment. Canon need only replace their 17-85 IS USM lens with something optically sound like the Nikkor 16-85 VR AFS and I think their APS-C walk-about lens collection is complete.
instead of upgrading the poor 17-85 they give us another plastic crappy lens
Glad this is CR2. Let’s hope it stays that way.
i agree kit lens is not needed
What about the EF-S 17-55 2.8? It’s FF equivalent is 27-88, a bit less reach than the 24-105, but it’s also f2.8. And the IQ is there.
>> there’s no price below 500 i won’t pay
Well there’s your problem. You’re not going to get an L (or L-equivalent) lens for under 500.
hear, hear…
at least if its a new efs lense make it a decent fast prime, no need for more zooms in my opinion.
is there a way to filter out the rumors that just come from the general public without any evidence?
why even publish these?
Not to be a smarta$$, but wouldn’t any non-public information with evidence be considered a press release?
Maybe you should double check what site you’re visiting…Canon RUMORS
Rumor is defined as:
1. A piece of unverified information of uncertain origin usually spread by word of mouth.
2. Unverified information received from another; hearsay.
canon need new 24-70IS, nothing else
+1
uhh.
A. Because they are fun.
B. Because CR is generally pretty accurate. (Per CR rating)
C. Because God hates you and wants to punish you with these horrible horrible rumors.
++1 (and swap 4 or 5-stop IS into all of their current 1st & 2nd generation IS lenses).
And while they’re at it, why not put that new lens coating that’s on the 24L Mk II that Canon’s been raving about on ALL current lenses leaving the factory?
It’s just a vapor coating…how hard is it to start put coating “X” on all the lenses instead of coating “Y”, especially when, according to Canon, coating “X” is significantly better than previous coatings…
+1 The EF 24-70 f/2.8 IS USM should be their highest priority
However, I think Canon employs enough people to develop several lenses at the same time…
or near 500 for that matter… the 17-55 isn’t an L lens (by build) and its around the 1k mark
+1 on the 24-70/2.8 IS plus a 200-500/5.6 IS….pretty please =)
Has anyone who wants the 24-70 2.8 IS actually used either the current 24-70 or 24-105? Whilst IS wouldn’t be too bad, if you’re not buying them cuz of IS you’re missing out on two of the best lenses of their classes… 24-70 IS would eat into 24-105 sales.
Wouldn’t be surprised if it never happens and Canon puts CMOS stabalisation in first (and this would be years away).
it’s very close – I don’t shoot efs but i’ve had that lens in my hands and many “issues” people have with it are non issues that people create out of some exaggerated expectations of a 1000 dollar lens…
If Canon would raise the price of the XXD cams then maybe people would be happier since the ratio of body cost to lens cost would be more in line with nikons d300 vs their (NON VR) 17-55 2.8
i NEVER wants in body!!!
every time i hear a chorus of it I say the same thing – there must be a reason that canon and nikon (who have 90 percent of US sales) don’t use it…
Lens based IS/VR is suited to the lens – not a catch all process that only works on the image after you take it – meaning you don’t get the stabilization in the viewfinder.
Onto the rumor at hand –
I agree rather than just rehashing or creating another crappy plastic lens they should do something original…
give us a 16 – 100 2.8 to 4 or 3.5/4.5 the way the older kit lenses worked….like the old 24-85 etc…
Give the rebels a lens that doesn’t end at 5.6 and it will be another way to build a gap between the rebels and the d40/d60 class of cams….
On the other frequently flown wish here – the 24-70 2.8, rather than IS or just IS i’d rather see another evolution in the “standard pro zoom” as there was before…
when i was younger 28-70 was the norm…then the 24-70…
I’D LOVE to see a 24-85 2.8 or a 20-75 2.8 or a 24-70 2.0 – something to add usability and letting me carry less lenses…
JC
Why are people getting all riled up over a mere rumor? For all we know, Canon may very well announce a few more printers on 25-Mar.
Why can’t they just make the 18-55mm lens with a non-rotating front element? That would be a much bigger improvement an an 18-120!
Seems like canon has a lot invested in the 24mm wide end of zooms right now given the focal length of two new primes the 24 1.4 LII and the 24 TSII. On the long end you have 70-200s firmly setting the boundary, so I don’t see Canon budging anytime soon–wider or longer. A 24-70 f2 would be pretty fantastic but would be a heavy piece of glass. It might creep into Canon’s 24 1.4 sales, though there don’t seem to be any given the nearly universal OOS status. Still f1.4 is a full stop faster max app than f2.0, sooo who knows, but I don’t think it’s in the works since we’ve never even heard a rumor. But a faster than f2.8 zoom would be a first for canon and a pretty sweet milestone assuming an excellent performer wide open! We can dream can’t we?
Right!
I think there only will be a few new canon printers!
Last year Canon announced the imagePRESS C6000 in Germany on 25th of March 2008.
so don’t read ’em.
“I’D LOVE to see a 24-85 2.8 or a 20-75 2.8 or a 24-70 2.0 – something to add usability and letting me carry less lenses…”
I am waiting on whater canon will come up with next… i need them to be a bit wider as i am not using them on a full frame
because that adds engineering complexity and build cost. the 18-55 is a budget lens. Adding a non rotating front element would raise the cost and thus defeat the purpose of “budget”.
If you want an 18-55 ef-s in non-rotating front element, they make the 17-55 2.8 IS
Brilliant Suggestion!
If only others had thought of that sooner!
Recommend a $1030 replacement lens for a $100 kit lens! You’re right, that’s definitely the way to go for someone on a budget with a Rebel 1000D!
Are you Turbo Tax Tim by any chance???
You are proving my point.
Your $150 kit lens will no longer cost $150 if you add a non rotating front element. I would expect it to double the cost at least. The lens will no longer be a nice “budget lens” for your 1000d. If you want specific features… they cost money.
Turns out the 17-85 IS has a non rotating FE. It is about 450 if memory serves.
I would not mind in-body stabilization despite the fact that I have spent a lot of money on 70-200 2.8 IS and will soon buy another IS zoom, I also have a few primes that I like (including my favourite 85mm 1.8) and I’d love to have some kind of IS for them, even 1-, 2-stop one. Face it, with 3-stop IS for 70-200 I can shoot 80mm at 1/25s easily, on the other hand with my 85mm prime I have to shoot at 1/100 or so (maybe a tad slower) to be sure of a sharp picture and a lot of aperture advantage that 85mm 1.8 had over 70-200 2.8 gets lost in the process.
2-stop IS system in the new 500D or whatever will come next (60D or whatever) would make me upgrade my “ancient†400D, I could not care less about a movie mode or some fancy articulated screens.
It will be an EFS18-85 USM with full metal mounts 17-55 discontinued, same price point
Both Pentax and Olympus sell kit lenses that are similarly priced without rotating front elements.
lol well, consider me pwned then.
It has to have ring USM and non rotating front. Nikon do it with all there DX kit lens why can’t Canon.
Come on Canon new EF-S lens but stop using micro motors with the 18-200. Nikon put USM in it’s DX lens so you can put it in EF-S, The 18-200 EF-S would have been so much better if it had USM.
I though Canon said a few years back that it was committed to putting usm in all it’s lens.
Don’t make it a kit lens the 18-55 IS is a good enough kit lens, made this and upgrade EF-S lens.
The 18-55 IS is good enough as a kit lens. Make the 18-120 or what ever this new lens will be an upgraded EF-S lens for people who want a quality walk around for a crop body, it could even replace the 17-85 but retain ring usm and metal mount and non-rotating front of that lens.