7D Next Week around the globe
According to Rob Galbraith, sources and countless emails. The 7D should be shipping to dealers next week in the US and Canada.
7D Features & EOS
Just an interesting note. The Dutch EOSZine (Canon’s own monthly journal, www.eoszine.nl) states in its 7D preview (page 12/13) that if the 7D is too expensive “you’ll find that all mentioned innovations will be applied in all EOS models in a year time” (rough translation).
thanks Dutch
Samyang 35 f/1.2 for EF
We should be seeing a new fast prime from Samyang early next year. Canon will receive a 35 f/1.2 while other manufacturers receive an f/1.4. Apparently one of the advantages of the EF mount (larger bayonet).
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i need one before the 6th of october!!
fingers crossed
“all mentioned innovations will be applied in all EOS models in a year time” …
boy does that bode well for the Canon lineup.
looks like the 60D might be a big boy too
The 35mm f/1.2 certainly sounds tantalizing !
Imagine :
– 35mm f/1.2
– 50mm f/1.2 L
– 85mm f/1.2 L !!
That would be sooo… irresistable!
So a 7d price drop will come soon after it is shipped???
Maybe a price drop in Euro, since it’s selling pretty high compare to US$.
Glad to hear of the expected ship date. Unfortunately, it will be too late for next week’s photo trip. Oh well, there will be other trips soon!!
Actually, it’s easier to make fast aperture lenses for EF because of the back focus distance, which then necessitates a larger bayonet. Exciting, sounds like a good prime for some decent pics
“According to Rob Galbraith, sources and countless emails. The 7D should be shipping to dealers next week in the US and Canada.”
Shipping from Japan to USA ? In that case, it means it will not be here before 15 days at least.
Or does it mean it will ship from dealers to buyers next week ?
OK here is the complete info:
Canon EOS 7D on track to ship next week in U.S., Canada
Monday, September 21, 2009 | by Rob Galbraith
The Canon EOS 7D is to be released in the U.S. and Canada beginning in seven to nine days. Lisette Ranga, a camera marketing representative at Canon USA, indicates that units of the 17.92 million image pixel digital SLR will begin to ship from Canon distribution centres to retailers in the first part of next week.
Meanwhile, Canon Canada has informed its network of dealers that the camera will depart from Canon’s warehouses starting on Monday, September 28.
Factor in the logistics of shipping caseloads of cameras to a long list of dealers, and the 7D should be in the hands of a decent quantity of pre-order customers in numerous U.S. states and Canadian provinces by the end of next week.
The 7D is probably shipping at about the same time in numerous other countries as well, though we have confirmation of the camera’s pending release in the U.S. and Canada only at this time.
About time the EF mount brought some advantages. Generally it seems to mean the same specs but slightly heavier.
Where can we actually pre-order this sucker that has the highest chance of getting it first? I notice B&H doesn’t let you pre-order at all. Best Buy, Adorama, and Amazon do, but the shipping costs if you want it faster than 5-9 business days vary from $10-60 … and which will actually get it first? I missed having it for a wedding last weekend, I’ll miss it for a trip this weekend, I *really* want it for an event Oct. 8.
sounds exciting… maybe by next week-end
Don’t you test/get used to your camera before using it?
That’s what I was thinking.
Would they introduce digic 5 with the 60D (& 1DIV)? 50D is digic 4.
I wonder if the presence of the 7D will impact the design goals of the 60D? I secretly hope for a slightly smaller body. It’s the one thing I really like about the rebel line.
I actually wanted to get the T1i but all of the Rebel body cameras are actually so small my hand cramps after about 5 minutes of shooting. so I hope they keep the XXD line the body shape it currently is.
I have the feeling Digic V is going to roll out with the 60D and 1DMkIV simultaneously.
don’t you keep a second body around as backup?
I ordered from Hunts Photo Video in NH. $500 deposit on Sep 1 locked it in. I should be among the first to get one. Just in time for my 62nd birthday :-)
why are you comparing it to US$
But if they add all the 7D features to the 60D, isn’t the 60D THE 7D only for $500 less in 6 months?
What would be the difference between the 60D and the 7D other than the 60D might also have Digic V and be even better?
How does this make any sense?
The grip on the Rebels definitely needs to be improved (ie enlarged). I’m not sure why Canon is so stubborn about that. People have been complaining about it ever since the XT.
In my opinion there’s room for something in between the current XXXD and XXD line in terms of size. The D90, for example, is a nice compromise. I haven’t held the K-7, but it appears to have a nice grip despite its small size.
In any case, sounds like the 60D could be pretty awesome. It will be interesting to see what compromises they make in the name of product differentiation.
Cause it cost 1700 USD and 1800 Euros…
With the current change, 1800 are 2700 USD. 1000 USD more in Europe ! Come on !
I think that 60D should be the low-light low MP camera. Would be nice to have a non-18 mp camera with usable 6400 ISO
I think there will be a significant list of missing items.
in all likelihood, the 60D will be missing weatherproofing and the flash commander, have lower FPS, smaller viewfinder, and a single Digic V might give it less processing power than Dual Digic IVs.
these along with some other nitpicks will easily add up to a reduced price of about $400~500, putting it squarely between the XXXDs and the 7D.
looks like Canon will finally be going head-to-head with Nikon’s lineup, which they had avoided doing previously
that’s basically worth the plane trip to the US just to buy the camera, especially flying from London
Switzerland might be a good idea… Cameras are at about 1300€!
http://en.toppreise.ch/index.php?a=178594
with a little bit of improvements added in the 550D, its price will become close enough to 7D to make it the immediate next lower model after it, meaning goodbye xxD forever (except for never say never, as with S90 resurcting its long forgotten series). in case 550D takes this role this justifies a cheapo-creepo 2000D (total three 1.6x crop cameras). if not, 550 will be given the creepo role, 1000D dies without a replacement, 60D downgraded so that it’s not too close to 7D (againg 3 crap 1.6x cameras).
The rough translation from the 7D preview is quite correct. However, if you go the ‘about us’page on the eoszine site they only say they ‘publish in cooperation with canon’, whoch to me does not make them in any way a canon publication with privileged information. They are not mentioned on the canon.nl website
In that case, you can buy it from adorama or BH
Hij spreekt geen goed Nederlands?
I think in terms of the target market (not to mention price) there’s too much room between the 500D and 7D. The former is aimed at beginners while the latter is aimed at pros and semi-pros, leaving nothing for enthusiasts – people who know photography well but don’t make money from it. I hope Canon will decide to compete with cameras like the D90, K-7, and E-30.
keeping the MP down would be one way to create product differentiation. I doubt they would go below 15MP though.
I hope that I’m the first one to ship it.. I was one of the first ones to pre-order in amazon and adorama .. both on fastest shipping possible. lets wait and see :)
a 60d with a good focus system 15MP, 6fps and video mode is a strong camera to rival the D90. So, I believe that the xxd will stay at least for now.
Yeah, I wonder if they’ll stick with the 9 point AF. The 7D AF seems decidedly “pro-oriented”.
Thats after taxes. The USA prices are before tax. You may have to pay tax when you bring your camera back to the EU.
If you did not pre-order it a month ago, you might be better off visiting local camera shops. The big online stores sold out the first day.
You can try calling B&H every day to see if they have some, since they only start accepting orders after they receive the cameras, or the day before.
Chances are that if the 60D ever happens, it will have the same sensor, just the smaller body and fewer features, slower AF, less sealing, etc.
I just emailed adorama and they said most probably it wont happen if i havent placed an order yet….
My local dealer said end of Oct for the 7D, thats in Alberta Canada
“you’ll find that all mentioned innovations will be applied in all EOS models in a year time”
Sounds to good to be true! I ‘ll believe it when I see it! So if all bodies will have the innovations from 7D what will the differences be between bodies? Just image Resolution and fps? The new Af will be used of course and the levels but I think that.s it…
Canon has clearly defined form factors for market differentiation. so I dont think rebel series would get a bigger grip.
Hunt’s in Manchester? …a nice little shop!
“Sounds to good to be true! I ‘ll believe it when I see it!”
It’s a normal business practice, all improvements and innovations are introduced at the top level and they trickle down over time to more entry-level models, exactly the same as with cars, computers and just about any other product – “you’ll find that all mentioned innovations will be applied in all EOS models in a year time” is just an obvious truism.
Experience informs us that many customers pre-order across multiple locations, so the back-order stuation isn’t as gloomy as it might initially appear if you haven’t yet placed your order; you may be pleasantly surpirised!
Although we – like a couple of other large photographic retailers – will be closing at 1:00 on Friday October 2 for the Jewish holiday of Succot, we plan to get out all our back orders for which we have stock beforehand.
BTW we will re-open at 9:00 on Monday 12 October (in reality only 5 business days, it just sounds like longer because of the weekends in between)
This is good to hear since I pre-ordered from you guys! =)
then you don’t *really really* !need! it.
Ik denk het niet. Veel Nederlanders hier.
They are actually connected to Canon…
http://www.canon.nl/For_Home/Product_Finder/Cameras/Digital_SLR/EOS_1000D/index.asp
What do you see on the right side…
Actually, like Henk pointed out, the Canon.nl website links directly to EOSZine. That’s how I came across it.
US and CANADA, cool, EUROPE pays the biggest price, for example, compare the prices between amazon.com and amazon.fr you will laugh. When we buy very used products in France, the price of new stuff in US still cheaper.. And you are not paid like a slave at all..
Europeans are the retards for Canon and Nikon products. They can wait to be the last ones to be able to buy the latests cameras, and they love to pay the highest prices :)
You’ll see 18 MP, ~ 6 fps and good video passed down from 7D.
BUT you’ll NOT see the 19 AF system trickle down.
St-John, you are the retard of this site…
“They can wait to be the last ones to be able to buy the latests cameras”
Wrong, all products are released at the exact same time in Europe and USA.
“They love to pay the highest prices”
What does it mean ?
– That the US economy is so low and bad that they can not even afford to buy a camera ?
– That the euro is a real money with a strong value (1700 USD and 1800 euros could be equivalent if the Dollars was not such a poor currency…). Soon, canon products will cost 1 million dollars… simply because the USD will have no value at all.
– That the US “photographers” are just technology geek who buy cameras to be able able to show off but who actually never really take pictures ? (I do not remember a lot of famous american photographers… Doisneau, Cartier-Bresson or even Arthus-Bertrand are… oh !… French !).
So St-John, take one more credit and loan to pay this camera and wait for your economy to collapse (oups it already did…) and we will talk again about the differences between Europe and USA prices…
@St John:
How do you feel about the fact that the 7D will be distributed in the USA with the old and outdated 28-135 whereas everywhere else in the world, the default kit will include the brand new 18-135 ?
Maybe because american customers can not afford to pay high end products and deserve old products ?
Who are the retards of Canon now ?
I agree that Canon marketing strategy is sometimes hard to understand. But claiming that European customers are Canon retards is lame.
Maybe you should try to understand why your price are low (poor currency and old products…) ?
Mine said by the end of next week in his hands (that means beginning of october with late September warehouse shipping)
“So, I believe that the xxd will stay at least for now.”
The same article explains that the xD (including the 7D) is simply intended as Canon’s highest end segment with two pro and two semi-pro bodies. The xxD, xxxD and xxxxD are intended as lower end. So as I understand it, the 7D doesn’t replace the xxD line.
may be their market reasearch told them that US buyers are likely to prefer the 28 over the 18, because the former is FF lens while the later is EF-S, also better the devil you know (28). just my speculations, if they do something like this throughout the US, then it must be for a reason.
Waar dan ? :)
Ik zie het echt niet. I followed Henk’s link and did not find eoszine.
Would be an extremely unlikely way of leaking info anyway, but I guess people on a blog like this don’t want to hear that
I think Eoszine is simply made by the marketing people of Canon themselves.
P.S. @ Robert: Aan de rechterkant staan ‘advertenties’ daar zit ie tussen. Misschien heeft jouw browser een advertentieblocker die foutief werkt.
It should be on the right side when you view a Canon DSLR on the Canon.nl website. (Like the link from Henk.)
I honestly can’t say how serious to take it.
They’re giving away Canon goodies like their Santa Canon Claus themself.
yep.. i ordered about 10 minutes after the pre-orders were opened
http://www.usa.canon.com/templatedata/pressrelease/20090901_eos7d.html
The year time is the news in this sentence.
May have to… I think that even then (add 20%) it’s still a nice deal, and you can attach a holiday to the trip as well :) Use the camera, make it look a bit less than brand-new, and customs probably won’t bother. I don’t know how much tax you’d have to pay in the States, but that won’t be 30% of the price…
Not yet… But believe me, in the 70D it’s there. We’ve been fed that 9-point system for long enough now, Nikon might just downstream their 51-point to a D90-successor, which leaves Canon hopelessly underspecced.
robert55 wrote:”Would be an extremely unlikely way of leaking info anyway, but I guess people on a blog like this don’t want to hear that”
well it is 50-50 (eoszine’s affiliation with Canon), they say in their disclaimer that they are an independent magazine issued by “Artifex Graphics” and published online monthly in collaboration with Canon NL:
“EOSzine is een onafhankelijke uitgave van Artifex Graphics in de persoon van Pieter Dhaeze en wordt maandelijks online gepubliceerd in samenwerking met Canon Nederland.”
http://www.eoszine.nl/305/Disclaimer.html
One thing I’ve noticed: it used to be that B&H Photo was usually sold out of the 5dmkii, and Adorama was sold out some of the time…but since the 7d was announced, it seems that both B&H and Adorama have no problem keeping the 5dii in stock.
My assumption is that many are ordering the 7d who otherwise would have bought the 5dii.
je ne sait plus, j’avait les questions mais je les ai perdu!
if i may ask: is canonrumor related to photorumor?! they like cook rumor together or something.
Exactly what I was going to say. 60D will likely get shutter, mirror, viewfinder, basic weathersealing, etc of 50d, (the “mechanical bits”) but inherit new colour metering, lcd focus screen, basic version of AF technology (but not as many AF points and maybe not extra-precision option), etc. (the “electronic bits”. Video will be super cool if they integrate digic V though, and it may improve live view AF as well.
I chose Canon as my SLR platform 6 years ago for many reasons. One of them is that the EF mount is the most adaptable full-frame SLR mount to older lenses because of the relatively short flange-back distance: http://cameraquest.com/adaptnew.htm
Another advantage of the EF mount (again, 6 years ago, others have mostly caught up now), is that ALL lenses have the SAME electronic-only coupling. I looked at Nikon & Pentax and saw huge complex charts of what lenses work with what camera bodies & all the good primes using archaic screwdriver autofocus & mechanical aperture control, and then I saw Canon USM lenses for less money and no confusion & never looked back.
You mean like a 7D in mRAW?
Maybe someone already covered this but if the 60D gets all the same innovations than how does a 7D fit anywhere?
IF the 60D has the same AF system and Video with fewer options, but both have a 1.6 crop factor…I would be willing to pay less for say less FPS. Like 4 or 5 FPS.
Might be too close to the 7D in stats.
I dunno just my opinion and question.
“Europeans are the retards for Canon and Nikon products. They can wait to be the last ones to be able to buy the latests cameras,”
Yeah, but I got to play with a Leica M9 in a shop in Paris two weeks ago :-)
“That the US “photographers” are just technology geek who buy cameras to be able able to show off but who actually never really take pictures ? (I do not remember a lot of famous american photographers… Doisneau, Cartier-Bresson or even Arthus-Bertrand are… oh !… French !).”
Eh, chef, so far so good with the rest of your rant, but this is the kind of merde that proves that the French love to p*ss off Americans and you know it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ansel_Adams
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avedon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Weston
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Sexton_%28photographer%29
& as much as I love Steichen, he was in fact born in Luxembourg, though became a US citizen in his childhood:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Steichen
You’ll stop whining about working for slave wages during your seven weeks of holidays per year or when your mom gets breast cancer and the French health care system treats her for the cost of a baguette. If you’re actually good at what you do for a living, try starting a company in France & see what it’s like being a boss in one of the world’s most impossible hiring environments.
Fact is, the USA is the largest & most competitive consumer marketplace in the world, so we get the most cameras at the best prices. If you want cheaper cameras, get the French to buy more of them. Until then, please shut up.
“Maybe someone already covered this but if the 60D gets all the same innovations than how does a 7D fit anywhere?”
Innovations does not equal specifications, the way I see it newer cameras will get all/most/some gadgets/features that were debuted 7D (like the electronic spirit-level, auto-focus points moving depending on the camera orientation etc) but cheaper, more entry-level cams will have lower specs (slower FPS, less AF points, perhaps lesser quality screen, no wireless flash trigger, no environmental sealing etc).
“IF the 60D has the same AF system and Video with fewer options, but both have a 1.6 crop factor…I would be willing to pay less for say less FPS. Like 4 or 5 FPS.”
It will be interesting to see how Canon differentiates between the “pro” 7D and “semi-pro” 60D and “amateur” 550D. One obvious way to do it would be to include lower-res sensors in the low-end cameras and drop some of the more expensive features and gadgets.
Another one would be to redesign the complete “Rebel” (xxxD and xxxxD) line as “mirror-less” DSLRs but that would be a pretty radical change and I don’t expect it to happen any time soon.
may be canon is expecting a higher demand for 7d in US so they wanna get rid of 28-135, as early adopters wont have the patience to wait until ‘body only” is available
Helen,
Any word on 100mm f2.8 IS Macros?
I’ve got a preorder in with you guys for one.
Regards,
-Mike V.
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sorry but why do you write in french if you can’t? just wondering o.O
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No, I mean a camera that is capable of the same low-light performance of a 5DMkII.
Not mRAW.
Consider Nikon’s lineup – D300-D90-D5000. When the D90 came out all the sudden it made no sense to buy the D300 unless you needed the “pro” features like weathersealing, 51 point AF, and higher fps. Likewise, the D5000 distilled many D90 features into a smaller body. However, the D90 is still more attractive to enthusiasts with the flash commander, pentaprism, in-body AF drive etc.
Plus, I just can’t pay so much for a crop sensor camera. A 60D should be considerably cheaper.
For nearly $2k, I’d rather think about a used D700 or new Sony 850.
“usable 6400 ISO”
consider one of 2 “NR”s:
1) Noise Reduction
2) Nikon Rumors
me – très bon point…. seems like a lame google translation (nothing against it, but you can always tell)
Même “demoiselle Model” est mal écrit ;-)
Hey Stu,
If you order a fair amount of items through the year at Amazon.com, you should consider signing up for Amazon-Prime. It gives you free 2-day shipping (on “eligible” items) and drops Overnight shipping down to $3.99. I think it costs around $60 or $70 per year, but for me it has paid for itself every year so far. And it sure is nice for big releases like this to be able to pre-order right away. Just saying.
Correct translation:
…if the price does not fit your budget then history has shown that a lot of the innovations will be probably implemented in other EOS products
EOSzine is an independed publication……in cooperation with Canon Netherland.
Greetz, Marcel
Yeah, I just did this on Tuesday. Get a free 1-month subscription, ordered it, and with overnight shipping ($4). We’ll see what happens.
The built-in flash commander is based on built-in flash. Canon dslr above 7d don’t have built in flash… So the question is, will the 7d be the only one? I don’t think so.
Why not let to incrase sales of speedlites by ***d and **d series users?
But there is a chance that the commander is some way limited in camera menu – no ratio ability or etc.
yeah she needs to re-do her french dictation and “conjugaison: imparfait, passé composé (ou decomposé) et je ne sais quoi d’autre”
BUT she is spot on that canonrumors and photorumors do seem to cook rumors together. They were the first two sites to post the 1500D/T1 rumor today, with only <60 minutes or so separating them according to google, and a very similar text and content of the rumor itself.
yes but she is right that there seem to cooperation between CR and photorumor, the Rebel T1/1500 rumor tonight has been reported by both at similar times and with similar texts.
Does that mean all model’s released after the 7D? I would love for my 5D II to have the new focus system.
…a lot of the innovations will be probably implemented in other EOS products
The keywords are “a lot” and “probably” so the answer is to your question is no.
Marcel ;-)
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