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Speedlite 270EX - With The Tilt
Speedlite 270EX - With The Tilt

– The 270EX is making its way into peoples hands.

From the folks at Dell (5D Mark III!):
A reader got this response from a Dell employee yesterday in regards to the 5D2.

“My name is Bailey and I am a sales representative here at Dell in the Electronics and Accessories department.  I was informed about your situation and did a little research to try to clear some things up.  It turns out that Canon is currently moving from the 5D Mark II to the Mark III.  The flyer you received was up-to-date, however it appears that Dell may have received news on the transition after the flyer was put together by marketing.
Please let me know which number would be best to reach you on, as well as the time that would be most convenient for you.”

Contain laughter.

60D (older news)
– It's suggested the 60D will get an articulating screen. [NL]

– The 60D will be put on an 18 month product cycle again. [NL]

Niether of which I've received any information on.

Canon Live Learning
Canon just launched this new program in the US! Saturday Mini-Conferences that teach 4 topics (HD Video, Speedlite Creativity, Maximize Your EOS, and Nature/Landscapes) with instructors like Explorers of Light Vincent Laforet, Bruce Dorn, Darrell Gulin and Bob Davis. Sunday Workshops provide hands-on experience with models and partial gear rental.

Check it out!
Canon Live Learning – EOS Essentials
www.usa.canon.com/canonlivelearning

New York: May 30-31
Chicago: June 13-14
Los Angeles: June 20-21
San Francisco: July 18-19
Boston, Seattle, Atlanta, and Dallas: Dates TBD

Here's a discount code FBK09 – $25 off the Saturday Mini-Conference.
Hope to see you there!

http://www.usa.canon.com/dlc/controller?act=GetArticleAct&articleID=2068

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114 Comments
  • Did you not notice the 5D MK2 kit lens is a 24-70 IS, let the rumours begin or shall we put it down to bad copy and pasting !!

  • Has Canon ever let a recent buyer of a camera purchase the kit-lens at the pro-rated kit-lens price?

    I had no need for the 24-105 so I skipped it…

  • dell, like any other CSR, will tell you anything you want to hear. this one time, i called 5 diff csr’s at one store to find out something about a product i was looking to buy, all 5 told me a different story…

  • Rumours are true! Also is the 1d mkIV for sale at Dell. It has a triple dig!c V cpu, mirrorless shutter and does 40fps @ 16mpx. It comes in a kit with a 2-in-1 prime lens (you van switch between 200 and 500mm both @ f/2.8 and 5 stop iS). Dus

  • No no… the next 1D mkIV will have an built in iPhone to handle the image data.. and a gyroscope (or what you call it), so you only have to shake the camera to delete a photo on the memory card.. ;)

  • They better come out with something good to match Nikon. I was just salivating over the D700, man I wished I started with Nikon and not Canon to be honest. I hope Canon proves me wrong this yr, but in my opinion the 5DMII can’t compare with the D700 unless you want large files and huge memory cards(auto focus, AEB, fps, weather sealing).

  • Is Canon to Nikon what a PC is to a Mac? In recent years it seems that Nikon are leading the way in terms of innovations and and bringing us exciting new cameras. Canon only give their customers a new feature after Nikon have put it on the market first. Canon suck and that’s why I’m switching to Nikon.

    Nikon firsts:
    DSLR with video capability
    Outstanding high ISO capabilities
    High resolution LCD
    Articulating LCD

  • Canon
    1st DSLR with not laughable noise performance 1D mkII
    1st DSLR with decent resolution and FF 1Ds mkII
    1st Company with IS lenses in the 1990s

    recent years

    1D mkIII released with good ISO performance, ‘my menu’, live view, etc…

    6 months later the admittedly stellar nikon D3 is released, also with these features…

    dual cards was canon’s first, nikon was just the first to do dual CF

    Canon gives you the abillity to control your camera from computer either tethered of Wirelessly with transmitter with bundled software, it costs $200+ from nikon

    Canon is now the 1st compnay with T&S lenses capable of non-orthagonal movements with both effects simultanesously.

    Yes nikon has been doing a very good job lately, they needed to after the mkII cameras almost pushed them completely off the professional map. enjoy your nikon, their good cameras (now), I will enjoy my mkIV (and kicking your ass if you shoot college athletics)

  • @Alan
    “Is Canon to Nikon what a PC is to a Mac?”

    I hope so. Practical, sensibly priced, well-supported, universal versus over-priced and under-specced. I want my PC.

  • plus you can’t game on Mac, it doesn’t even make a good fun computer :(

  • I may be wrong but that Dell mail is the same as one from last year regarding the 1D or was it the 5D?

  • Don’t even start. I trashed £1k on top spec Acer laptop 3 years ago. It was absolute rubbish, I could play games on it for about 10s until it would overheat. You couldn’t even run linux on it, and it weighed 6kg with everything! The screen was useless, broke, and is worth nothing.

    Now my MBP, £800 nearly new on ebay, all perfect, very light, secure and does everything I need, w/o anti-crapware. I bet it will sell for £500 in three years time.

    So which one is overpriced and useless?

  • the only reason I have to shoot with a DSLR is the ability to swap lenses… and in that regard Canon kicks Nikons ass really hard… I just like Canon lenses… lets see what Nikon does about that!! In the meantime I’ll keep on enjoying my 85mm f1.2 on both the eos 5D and eos 3. ;-)

  • yes you can… try warcraft 3 and call of duty 4… great games running on intel macs! ;-)

  • i was joking, though mac’s game offerings are significantly limited compared to windows (basically everything not blizzard, with a few notable exceptions is off limits)

  • Dell is right. Canon is indeed making 5D Mk3. In 2 years time you will see it on the shelves.

  • Yeah I’m going to start speculating on its specs:

    28mp
    51 point autofocus…

    oh who cares

  • you might be disappointed this year. canon stated that 2009 was going to be a slow year anyway. 2010 should be good. 1D IV by then, for the Olympics.

  • Oh come on. Sure there are crap computers, but Macs have problems too. I use both. I’ll say this, my new Core i7 PC with Edius HDStorm card will edit full HD circles around any Mac and for less money.

  • No, haven’t you heard? No one needs that many megapixels. They’re gonna drop it down to 15 MP like the Rebel but it will be so much better image quality everyone will want it.

  • I use Canon because I like the glass as well, but can Nikon be so bad? Maybe Canon was the innovator but it seems they are running on borrowed time right now?? Even the 1D MIII has AEB for three frames while the D700 does up to 9, wtf?? Throw a battery pack on the thing and you have a sports camera that rocks, maybe not 1D level but almost.
    By the way I use to use PC, I know run a Mac Book Pro and would never look back. They will soon come out with a mat screen and the aluminum body is so stylish I love just looking at the thing.

    Cheer’s

  • the nikon vs canon discussion is sooo worthless

    the 40d was the best aps-c camera money could buy (and it didn’t cost that much either) .. the 50d had WORSE high ISO Performance…

    Nikon’s d40 is slaughtered by the 400D and 450D , nikon’s D70 was much, much better than most canon’s in the day..

    the first 5d was much better than nikon’s .. the D700 is better than the 5dmk2 ..

    it doesnt matter which brand you shoot… as long as it canon or nikon… ;)

  • “the D700 is better than the 5dmk2”

    Not always true, you can’t take video with D700.

  • I couldn’t agree more with every word you said. I originally specked out a new 5DMII for work purposes (before it came out) but after it came out, I was sooo disappointed with the auto focus, fps, cold weather performance, overall cheapness of holding it, oh, and not to forget the krrr clunk every time you push the shutter, that I opted instead for the D700, and a few choice lenses of course. Canon had better get its act together soon…I hope you’re reading Canon decision makers. You’re losing customers.

  • lol, I find it funny that some people want to change camera brand just cause of bodies while we all know that it’s the lens that make the difference, of course if you have a huge pile of money to spend then that is fine ;)

    I disagree with about the cheapness holding it though, cause if you have read the reviews, some even mentioned that you feel that you are holding something special, never once I read someone who commented a 5D MkII as feeling cheap, except the CF door though.

  • well you can’t compare a new generation vs old generation. D800 or whatever it might be called, is bound to have video function. Truth to be told, both are good brand and nitpicking between which is better is just silly.

    I prefer Canon FF lenses compared to Nikon, that’s why I go w/ Canon, but I prefer Nikon bodies over Canon :D.

  • Canon firsts:

    – ALL USM lenses… Nikon SLOWLY moving there…
    – Full frame DSLRs
    – Low noise at high ISO for DSLRs
    – CMOS sensors
    – multiple TS lenses… Nikon now following…

    Yes, Nikon leads in some areas now, but that JUST started couple of years ago… before that, they were ALWAYS trailing by a WIDE margin

  • “nikon’s D70 was much, much better than most canon’s in the day..”

    until you try shooting at high ISO… then it falls apart…

  • Well if you want to do HDR photo’s Nikon gives you the option of doing up to 9 frames AEB, Canon 3, even on the 1Ds MIII, please, if you want to shoot sports the 5DMII is way to slow. The auto focus is a joke once you play with a Nikon. Nikon gives you the option to bump up your fps with the battery grip. I’m not loyal to either company I just want what gives you the most options and by far it’s Nikon. The video feature I couldn’t care less about. I’ll buy a video camera if I want that, oh wait, already got one, never use it ;o) The 5D MII is no doubt a great camera if your subject is still. I personally don’t need such a large file to fill up memory. it seems as though if I want to stick with Canon I’m going to have to buy 2 camera bodies to fill my needs 5DMII and the 1DMIII, or wait to see what comes in the next year or so.
    Would be nice if Canon would disclose what they are planing so I could decide what to purchase next.

    Cheer’s

  • I forgot the bunch of profession f/4 lenses which Nikon have no answers for… 24-105 f/4 IS, 70-200 f/4 IS etc

  • Canon vs Nikon

    Why do Canon cameras only offer +/- 2 stops exposure compenstation? Nikon has +/- 5.
    Why do Canon strobes require a $200 ST-E2 transmitter to trigger the flash remotely? With Nikon you can trigger a strobe with a camera’s pop up flash.
    Also Nikon allow you to overlay images and create multiple exposures in camera. This is fun, so why don’t Canon cameras have this feature?

  • Agreed that the lenses are what make the greatest difference, and it seems to me that Canon’s L series offers more variety and greater quality and consistency than Nikon’s at the moment. Additionally, lenses are long-term purchases compared to a camera body, so if you’re going to pick a single criterion on which to choose brands, it makes sense to look at the lenses.

    However, the camera body is no trivial thing; if your focus hit rate is low because the AF system is weak, then it doesn’t matter if you have the best lens in the world. Few dispute that Nikon is providing more attractive camera bodies at the moment, but I’m willing to bet that this is cyclical, and Canon will again gain the upper hand in the near future. In the meantime, enjoy your Canon lenses!

  • I agree, especially about wireless flash. Canon needs to get with the times.

  • – Why do Canon cameras only offer +/- 2 stops exposure compenstation? Nikon has +/- 5.

    OMG now I’m gonna have to switch to Nikon!

    Why do Canon strobes require a $200 ST-E2 transmitter to trigger the flash remotely? With Nikon you can trigger a strobe with a camera’s pop up flash.

    Who cares! Only a maroon would use remote flashes instead of a real strobe or hot light system.

    Also Nikon allow you to overlay images and create multiple exposures in camera. This is fun, so why don’t Canon cameras have this feature?

    Yeah and why not add Resident Evil 5 too while you’re at it?

  • Nikon is like a flea on the back of an elephant compared to Canon.

    Canon’s net worth is $38,276,704.00

    Nikon’s net worth is $8,110,653.00

    Yes, that’s a 30 BILLION DOLLAR difference.

  • The 5DII was announced 2 months after the D700, so I’d hardly call that comparing new vs. old.

  • david,
    where is your work? I’ve seen lots of “maroon”‘s do amazing work with speed lights – I for one just can’t drag my strobes into the street to do the shooting that i’ve been doing lately…
    I must be a “maroon”

  • Why exactly would you need so much EC? All the meter does is give you an approximate idea of the “right” exposure, then you set the exposure you need. Pretty simple, no need to mess that up. And as for the wireless speedlights, well most people who are into flash have real strobes. And the price of the ST-E2 is absorbed by the price difference between comparable Nikons and Canons anyways (40D vs. D300, etc). Also, most people who buy speedlights will get the 580EX anyways, which comes with this ability.

  • Oh, well, in that case there really doing a piss poor job if they can’t put out a better camera than Nikon, lol!!!

  • Did you know that with a canon in manual mode, you can have your EC of +/- 5 … :-)

    And picture overlay in camera … I’ll just let my computer do the math behind that.

  • 270 EX flash is available ? I am releaved… but what about the fancy new Tilt&Shift lenses? Does Canon really intends to produce them? Did they change their mind?

  • I’ve heard know you know very well that SIZE doesn’t matter as far as how good something is. Fortunately it’s not something I have to worry about either personally or my camera equipement. But that was not my point. I was reffering to your inference that Canon “are running on borrowed time right now.” Which is utterly ridiculous.

    Canon could shut down their entire camera pruduction and still be a far bigger company with more manufacturing and R&D capacity than Nikon.

    You know very well that Canon and Nikon have gone back and forth competing with each other for decades so don’t cry and whine when Nikon is stightly on top for a while. Its not a friggin religion – they are just tools.

  • Personally I dont care. I didn’t grow up as a photographer depending on my in-camera light meter and auto-exposure doing all the work for me. Like the popup flash on my 50D, I’ve never used EC and don’t plan to.

  • It’s already in there under hip-hop group, which last time I checked they are not photographers but musicians.

  • Exactly!

    Speedlights just dont put out enough light and have way too slow recycle times, not to mention you’re stuck with that “flash” look. Does that mean there are no uses for speedlights? NO. It just means making the fact Nikon has spent more time pushing the marketing of their wireless speedlights as a substitute for real strobes out to be a significant factor in whether Nikon is better than Canon totally innane. It’s a small group of photographers who are ever going to want or use remote speedlights – let them buy Nikons…who cares!

  • No, Canon is just yanking your chain. According to the Nikon fanbois Canon just photoshoped the new T/S lenses to get the millions of people who hawked their useless Canon gear for Nikons to come back…don’t believe it, it’s just a trick.

  • You’re definitely right on the lenses, which is why I bought Canon…and I love my lenses. I challenge you though to pick up a D700 and then the 5DMII, don’t just read reviews, I will be very surprised if you don’t feel a big difference between the two. (btw, Ken Rockwell gave a similar review, cheap feel, if you’re just looking at reviews) If you haven’t heard about the weather problems, visit luminous landscape, big problems!!

    BTW, it was my companies money that bought the D700 and my new 14-24 2.8 is amazing. :)

  • lol, I’ve also considered the 2 camera option. This is why it ticks me off that the 5dmii’s af is so poor. And, yes, I couldn’t agree more, if I want to shoot video, I’ll buy a camcord, or whatever the hell you call them.

  • Well you totally missed my point if you think that I think Canon is going tits up. Second I’m not crying or whining. I’m simply stating that right now Nikon camera bodies Kick Canons arse, in my opinion. I love the canon lenses and I would like to stay with them but if things continue like they are with the bodies, I’ll move to Nikon just because you get more for your money, again, just my opinion. I personally don’t care which company I use, the part I hate is once you spend so much cash on lenses it hurts if you have to go to the other side because canon is not delivering a body that works for me. I’m not the only one who shares this opinion.

    Cheer’s

  • Ok, I did write borrowed time, I’ll restate that, how does dropping the ball sound, lol. No really though it would be nice if they would bring something in to match the D700 ??

  • I’m not telling you what to buy or shoot. Nikon’s are fine. Their bodies don’t make me want to switch. Nikon glass is nice, but nothing I would switch over for either. I find the differences minor at this point. I see great photos being taken with both camera systems. I’m sure all the masses of people who, like you, feel Canon is not delivering a body that works for them will simply not buy Canon’s – even though Canon is still outselling Nikon with all those camera bodies that don’t work for people.

  • I got the net worth/assets numbers off the respective company global web sites under financials.

  • Well I gotta say I don’t think you can compare the 40D to the D300 and as far as the 580 having that function I’m pretty sure you need two 580’s one master and one slave or a 430ex II as a slave which is what I have.

    Cheer’s

  • Why would you not want two cameras? It’s like having only one lens. There is no one perfect lens. There is no one perfect camera body. Otherwise the gadget bag industry would not be able to sell bags to hold all our lenses and bodies, and we just could not have that.

  • So did Nikon drop the ball with the years of cameras that were nowhere near as good as their Canon counterparts??? Where you crying and whining that Nikon was dropping the ball then? MOM!!!! Scott’s in the place house with my haze filter and will not come out! Whaaaaaaaaaaah waaaaaaaaaaaaah! Oh wait, is that Scott in the picture? I can’t tell because my Canon AF is busy sucking arse…according to Scott anyway. And according to Scott without a better AF, better EC, and my trusty Nikon remote triggering popup flash I clearly can not be a photographer.

  • That’s right! The 5D2 is worse construction than a Rebel. I picked up a 5D2 and thought the lens might just fall off of it. I took a D700 and used it under the car jack when I got a flat tire, it picked my truck up no problem! You can even play hockey with the D700, can’t do that with any Canon!!!

  • Oh look there is DAVE walking down the street, and he has his studio with him, LOL!!!!! Dave are you a closet pop up flash guy, lol???

  • Drat! I’ve been discovered! I have a boat load of popup flashes in my closet.

    Though I have used both portable generators and Xantrex powerpacks to power location lighting, and I have walked down the street with a rolling cart piled high of gear for a shoot because, I’m sorry, but remotely triggered Nikon speedlights suck in comparison. Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do to get your shot.

  • best replies ever david! Where can I order the Resident evil 5 firmware addon now?

  • I’m switching to Nikon because they are releasing Resident Evil 6 first on the D800 before Xbox or PS3 get it, and…the new Sony PS4 is going to be built in to the D3x successor! THEN!!! Because Nikon is SO awesome! They will make both Resident Evil 6 and PS4 available to all Nikon bodies, even P&S’s, via firmware update!!!

    Woo Hoo!

  • Oh!!! news update: Via another awesome canon-should-have-done-it firmware update, the Nikon popup flash will also remotely control both the Xbox and Ps3 consoles!

  • I would love to see an updated ST-E2 which has a hot shoe (something like the new Pocket Wizard) on it so we can mount our flash gun on top of it when not planning to fire off shoe. Also, is the current ST E2 transmit wireless signal by infrared or radio signal or both?

  • IR only, surprisingly effective indoors, not impressive, but not terrible outside

  • 1 series camera’s can do multiple spot meters to calculate the exposure for a single frame. Ha, extremely limited use feature +1 for Canon

    That said if Canon did decide to jack all of Nikon’s features and make them better and add them to their own, I would not complain.

  • My sentiments exactly.

    I have a 5D2. It’s solid. I don’t mean 2009 firm polycarbonate solid– 1970’s metal camera solid.

  • And not just only that… with the release of the new “Robot-turns-to-a-car-turns-to-a-robot”-movie that’s coming up… Nikon have adapted robot technology to their pop up flashes… with the new D800 the pop up will have the ability to jump down from your camera.. run away and buy you a cup of coffee.. and then transform into a ultra modern mobile photostudio…

    It’s true! I’ve read it on the so called amazing “Internet”! ;)

  • Reminds me of the joke:

    Q: How many surrealists does it take to change a light bulb?

    A: Two. One to hold the giraffe and the other to fill the bathtub with brightly coloured machine parts.

  • Um, he also uses Elinchrom Digital 2400 watt second Rx Power Packs with Elinchrom X6000N Flash Heads, Elinchrom Ranger RX Speed AS Asymetrical 1100 Watt-Second Battery Operated Power Packs with Elinchrom Ranger FreeLite A Flash Lampheads!!!

  • How do you get the professional photographer off your front porch?

    Pay him for the pizza.

  • very true. John’s point was more that speedlites do actually work, as demonstrated by Joe, not that they are replacements for proper studio strobes, also demonstrated by Joe, as you have correctly pointed out

  • No one is saying spepedlights dont work. But let’s be real, a guy light John is not just using speedlights, he has 1100 watt second battery powered packs and heads too! Those are portable, not studio lights.

    Everything has a place. What I’m responding to is the notion I’ve seen preached around here that popup flash remote triggered speedlights somehow makes Nikon’s better than Canon’s and people should switch to Nikon because Canon makes you buy an extra piece.

    That’s like saying everyone should switch to Canon because they have more tilt/shift lenses. It’s a niche feature so who cares unless you are totally in need of all the T/S lenses then by all means that is a big deal…for you. But that doesn’t make Canon a better camera than Nikon, and neither does popup flash remote triggering make Nikon better. These are minor specialty features.

  • The article is contradictory. At first it says the XXD line will end with the 50D and then it says the 7D will be between the 50D and 7D.

  • I meant the 7D would be between the 50D and 5D, implying the 50D will not end the XXD line.

  • true, true, especially considering that the cost difference b/w the bodies which have that ability and their canon counterparts would permit the purchase of an ST-E2

  • “Would be nice if Canon would disclose what they are planing so I could decide what to purchase next.”

    Why even waste time typing that? Do you seriously think it would ever happen?

  • Since we already have Canon vs Nikon and Mac vs PC arguments here, could we expand? Perhaps add a Ford vs Chevy section?

  • “well you can’t compare a new generation vs old generation.”

    Sure you can. If they’re on the shelf at the same time, why wouldn’t you?

  • I wish that canon include a diaper changer on their next camera for all those whiners on the net. People who do lots of whining and little shooting will always do lots of whining and little shooting.

  • Buy whatever works for you. Just don’t whine about focus points or that Canon AF is useless, it’s not.

  • Of course that cost difference is already absorbed by the Nikon premium on lenses — due both to pricing and the lack of AF-S and VR without going all the way to the back-breaking 70-200 f2.8.

    … and yet Canon sees fit to include an AF-assist light, which is *widely* useful, in their pocket-sized P&S models but not a DSLR at 15x the cost. For an AF-assist light we need what, a full-on 580ex hanging off the top?

  • Um, you realize the HDSTORM & Edius Pro 5 are Windows only, right?

    Which means I have no waiting for transcoding of 1080p AVCHD files like on the Mac, or any other video format, before you can edit them, and full real time editing and output the Mac Pro can’t even do, right?

    Which also means I have HDMI input AND output as well as component, S-Video and composite input and output unlike the Mac Pro, right?

    And so you realize I got a Core i7 2.93 Ghz loaded PC, AND the HDSTORM Card & Edius Pro 5 for $500 LESS than a Mac Pro with similar specs (2.93 Ghz Quad Core Xeon) but you dont get any decent HD or video in/outs (except the outdated firewire) nor the real time editing and output and no waiting for trascoding of AVCHD or any other video format that FCP and the Mac can’t do, right?

  • I’m serious!

    The quality of photographers these days is so law that I started wishing that the digital age never come.

    Today people take 1 second to take a photo and 10 hours on their Photoshop fixing their crippled picture. Their HDRS became more and more disturbing that you start believing in Alien planets.

    Today people blame the tools when they miss a shot. What they should of blamed is the fool who actually toke them.

    Today people spend hours on the net discussing photography gear and spec and all that crap. But when it comes to actually photography, most of them afraid to pop the cherry.

    In the past, photographers didn’t have the luxury of advanced auto focusing. They didn’t have the luxury of choosing their ISO on the fly. They didn’t have the luxury of reviewing their images on the camera. They didn’t have luxury of bursting 10 frames per second because their films only had 35 frames. They didn’t have stabilized lenses. They didn’t have weather sealed bodies. They never had anything like Photoshop. But they produced pictures so perfected that should be framed with gold.

    I have a photo wall in my office behind my desk. It contains around 200 images from famous photographers. Only ten of those came from the digital photography era, three of which are portraits for my family.

    People these days forgot the sole of photography and ran after gimmick things like “the sound of the shutter”, “the auto HDR technology”, “the feel of the camera”, “the curves on the grip”, “not having dual memory” …etc. It’s like they are going to have sex with it. These days, nobody is looking at the image, everybody is looking at the camera.

  • Tell me about it. Take away the auto features and watch them all squirm or ask a DSLR photographer at an outdoor wedding to look at the scene (sunny, cloudy, partly cloudy etc) and tell you what your fstop and shutter speed should be at ISO 100 without looking at a light meter or letting the camera decide – you’d think they were just castrated. But they can come on these camera blogs describing pixel density for each sensor on the market and whine about how Canon crippled their camera and ruined their pictures.

  • Sycophants: from the greek word sykon describing nikonos fanboiphántÄ“s.

    Dont be so obsequious.

  • You left out Canon also robbed us all of built in crutches and a wheelchair with power assist.

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