DPReview has completed their review of the Canon EOS R, and we see they find the camera a mixed bag. It appears the reviewers greatest issues with the EOS R body is the ergonomics of the camera. The EOS R is nothing like anything else Canon has ever released in that regard.
The camera definitely does take some getting used to, and we suspect a coming firmware update is going to add some features as well as fix some of the issues users are having.
From DPReview:
With a 30MP sensor, fantastic color reproduction and on-sensor autofocus, the EOS R can produce some beautiful photographs with pinpoint-accurate focus. But it's Canon's first mirrorless full-frame camera, and in many ways, it shows. The ergonomics feel unfinished, and for the same or less money, you can find better video, more dynamic range and faster burst speeds elsewhere. But we have to admit that Canon's new RF lenses are simply spectacular, and at this time, the EOS R is the only way to get to use them. Read the full review
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What a pity that I have no chance to compare it by myself.
No IBIS
Poor Servo-AF/tracking fps
Nerfed 4k video
Bigger than competition
AND more expensive than competition
Canon thought they could get by with a mirrorfree 6D III at a much higher price. It ain't so. Anti-Canon stance at dpreview is obvious, but low score well deserved in this case.
"Basically, EOS R can take comparable or a little better still pictures than 5D4. Has much better video spec than 5D4. Is smaller, lighter than 5D4 and has silent shutter. Doesn't need lens calibration. Comes with some interesting and innovative lenses. Can accurately focus in low and back-lit situations. Has a few interesting perks such as control ring, CPL/ND adapters and can shoot with both EF and EF-S lenses."
All the points are still true after a month of using the EOS-R camera and it is absolutely fun to shoot with it.
Everyone else is comparing it to the 6D Mark II, A7III, and Z6, which is the proper comparison to make.
My own annoyances with the camera have to do with customization options. For example, I wish I could change ISO without first being in a metering mode. I would like to be able to have manual focus assists available while the lens is set in AF. The touch bar has a fairly unintuitive menu for setting options and it is missing options that seem like they should be available. Even so, this appears to be more of a problem with Canon finally attempting to offer more modes and customization options and me wishing for more. It is a step in the right direction.
Thanks
No IBIS - Don't care. On A7R3, it's a minimal improvement when used together with ILIS. It isn't ever a replacement for ILIS.
Servo tracking - Don't care. I always use fixed AF points.
4k video - Video? What's that?
Bigger than the competition - Thank freaking God. I hate Alpha and Z sizes, because they aren't sized right for bigger lenses. If I wanted a small camera, I'd use an APSC, which also has smaller lenses.
More expensive than the competition - That just isn't true. It's more expensive than some mirrorless full frame cameras and cheaper than others. I think it's priced just right
Most importantly, it autofocuses much more quickly and with less light than all of the other competitors; not quite as well as a DSLR, but at least it's not painful.
Which really just brings it back full circle. There isn't a mirrorless yet, including EOS R, which quite accomplishes what a DSLR does for me... allows me to point at the kind of stuff I want to photograph and get a high keeper rate without getting in the way.
From a landscape photog perspective:
- his IBIS and Servo tracking points are valid for the use case
- Bigger size is sometimes nice when you have a lot of glass in front of the camera, helps with grip in gloves, provides better balance, is great if you have larger hands.
- Video is not a feature everyone needs, for a lot of us it is a feature we never use
- For a 6DII "equivalent" the price is ok, but this will depend on the market - in my country, when it launched, the 6DII was sold at the same price as the R is sold now.
Speaking from experience, I never felt limited by the DR of my old 5DIII or current 5DIV, the prints are coming out just fine so no worries there. The R has some ergonomics limitations (missing joystick, bad use of space for only the power switch), but it does have some nice features too. If it had dual cards, and I was in the market for a new landscape camera, I would give it a go...
All in all, this might be a case of "we expected a higher-end camera with all the bells and whistles, and now we're pissed it didn't come right away", but I'm actually glad it didn't. This way, there's at least a chance they will gather some feedback and incorporate certain things into the high end body instead of having to wait 3-year update cycle...
May I ask how you quantify this?
I only have one stabilized e mount lens (100-400), and I think when I disable IS either from the body or the lens, it turns off both systems, so I can’t compare on equal footing one vs the other.
Use it it with a lens that doesn't have IS, compare results to handheld with IBIS off.
That doesn’t tell me what IBIS adds to a lens with IS, which is the negligible improvement Talys mentioned. This would demonstrate the effectiveness of IBIS alone.
So, a person gives their own well thought out and articulated opinion and you feel you have the right to insult them based on nothing. Hmm, they have a word for that....TROLL.
IBIS = every lens now has stabilization. Works almost as well as in lens IS when shooting static subjects to stabilize the camera shake of the photographer. Does not stabilize as well when trying to stabilize a panning shot, such as a moving car.
In Lens = Heavier lens, but better sports and moving subject image stabilization options. If combined with IBIS you might achieve an extra 1/2 stop over either of them alone.
My theory on why Canon doesn't have it simply comes down to money. Canon charges a premium for IS and gets it. If they build in IS, they will lose quite a bit of people willing to pay a premium for IS on non sports lenses (the IS version of the 70-200 will probably still sell if used for sports, the hand held portrait shooter might opt to use IBIS and buy the lower cost version).