The Canon EOS R5 scores Canon’s best sensor score at DxO

snoke · Dec 16, 2020

Cooked raw. mmm, fish fingers.

Jasonmc89 · Dec 16, 2020

What about the R6 with its bigger pixels though?

padam · Dec 16, 2020

Same as the 1DX III - which they had to revise

DXOMark Admits They Screwed Up Their Canon 1D X Mark III Review

Earlier today, DXOMark issued an apology. The popular sensor testing company revised its controversially low score for the Canon 1D X Mark III, admitting

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nikkito · Dec 16, 2020

Yeah, now we need Lightroom to get those camera matching profiles ready so that we can unleash the beast. The adobe profiles are useless. At least those from colorfidelity are pretty good.

Chris.Chapterten · Dec 16, 2020

nikkito said:
Yeah, now we need Lightroom to get those camera matching profiles ready so that we can unleash the beast. The adobe profiles are useless. At least those from colorfidelity are pretty good.

Agreed! having now used the R5 in a variety of lighting situations the Adobe profiles really are useless in most situations. I also have the color fidelity profiles but find they are still not as good as the profiles available in Canon’s DPP

slclick · Dec 16, 2020

Jasonmc89 said:
What about the R6 with its bigger pixels though?

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fiendstudios · Dec 16, 2020

I find them pretty useless actually. Purchased them and tried to use them. They are rubbish!

Cochese · Dec 16, 2020

They must have gotten a new writer.

nikkito · Dec 16, 2020

Chris.Chapterten said:
Agreed! having now used the R5 in a variety of lighting situations the Adobe profiles really are useless in most situations. I also have the color fidelity profiles but find they are still not as good as the profiles available in Canon’s DPP

In certain lighting situations, the colors were not that great. And it makes you feel this might have to be because of the profiles, specially when you compare it to the colors you get with dpp.
Talking about useless.... dpp it's really bad.

nikkito · Dec 16, 2020

fiendstudios said:
I find them pretty useless actually. Purchased them and tried to use them. They are rubbish!

why don't you like them? I use the v3 standard.
which profiles are you using instead?

Viggo · Dec 16, 2020

I’ve even struggled using my own ColorChecker profiles. They seem to always lift shadows and the colors doesn’t look quite right. I edited a few thousand files from the R and went straight on the R5 files and it struggled, wasn’t all too happy... I don’t have a computer now, so will be exciting to see if anything has changed in Lr. At least one update I haven’t done.

nikkito · Dec 16, 2020

Viggo said:
I’ve even struggled using my own ColorChecker profiles. They seem to always lift shadows and the colors doesn’t look quite right. I edited a few thousand files from the R and went straight on the R5 files and it struggled, wasn’t all too happy... I don’t have a computer now, so will be exciting to see if anything has changed in Lr. At least one update I haven’t done.

It happened to me too many times to not be happy with the colors of the r5. Specially with the red/yellow/orange tones.
That's why i'm so impatient waiting for the camera matching profiles.

But apparently it's not guaranteed. The 1D X iii still doesn't have them. And the rp also not.

pardus · Dec 16, 2020

Can someone help shed some light for me on focus problems that I have been experiencing on my R5. Unlike my 5dmkiii and 5dsr, the R5 sensor doesn't have those crosspoint focus points and somehow uses the entire sensor giving 6000 or thereabouts points. When shooting products, I will select a high contrast focus point that I want to target and I get the red square. It won't focus on it, I have to use the stick or touchscreen and fiddle with 5-10 different spots until focus finally registers. on my DSLR's boom, nail focus every time. autofocus works fine but doesn't always choose the most desirable part of product to focus on as depth of field is critical and usually picks the closest surface to the camera which isnt always best. other autofocus uses like people and eyes etc all work great. So is this just a limiting factor or the R5 sensor, it isnt as effective as the DSLR specific crosspoints?

Fischer · Dec 16, 2020

No surprise here. But a welcome confirmation.

Fischer · Dec 16, 2020

nikkito said:
It happened to me too many times to not be happy with the colors of the r5. Specially with the red/yellow/orange tones.
That's why i'm so impatient waiting for the camera matching profiles.

But apparently it's not guaranteed. The 1D X iii still doesn't have them. And the rp also not.

Do color correction. Once you try it you will never go back. Beats any "factory" setting from Adobe etc. with a mile.

Bert63 · Dec 16, 2020

pardus said:
Can someone help shed some light for me on focus problems that I have been experiencing on my R5. Unlike my 5dmkiii and 5dsr, the R5 sensor doesn't have those crosspoint focus points and somehow uses the entire sensor giving 6000 or thereabouts points. When shooting products, I will select a high contrast focus point that I want to target and I get the red square. It won't focus on it, I have to use the stick or touchscreen and fiddle with 5-10 different spots until focus finally registers. on my DSLR's boom, nail focus every time. autofocus works fine but doesn't always choose the most desirable part of product to focus on as depth of field is critical and usually picks the closest surface to the camera which isnt always best. other autofocus uses like people and eyes etc all work great. So is this just a limiting factor or the R5 sensor, it isnt as effective as the DSLR specific crosspoints?

I do not have the problem you’re describing. I use my thumb and drag the focus point where I want it and there you go. I haven‘t had a problem getting the selection I choose in focus at all.

That is, when I’m not using AEAF...

BirdDudeJosh · Dec 16, 2020

snoke said:
Cooked raw. mmm, fish fingers.

Doesn't matter one bit. Sony has been doing that for years and everyone celebrates their DxO scores, it's only fair you know. That's why they have the whole star eater issue.

nikkito · Dec 16, 2020

Fischer said:
Do color correction. Once you try it you will never go back. Beats any "factory" setting from Adobe etc. with a mile.

what do you mean by color correction?

SereneSpeed · Dec 16, 2020

pardus said:
Can someone help shed some light for me on focus problems that I have been experiencing on my R5. Unlike my 5dmkiii and 5dsr, the R5 sensor doesn't have those crosspoint focus points and somehow uses the entire sensor giving 6000 or thereabouts points. When shooting products, I will select a high contrast focus point that I want to target and I get the red square. It won't focus on it, I have to use the stick or touchscreen and fiddle with 5-10 different spots until focus finally registers. on my DSLR's boom, nail focus every time. autofocus works fine but doesn't always choose the most desirable part of product to focus on as depth of field is critical and usually picks the closest surface to the camera which isnt always best. other autofocus uses like people and eyes etc all work great. So is this just a limiting factor or the R5 sensor, it isnt as effective as the DSLR specific crosspoints?

If it’s with the 100mm macro, it’s the lens. I stopped shooting products with it. I don’t need macro and went with the 100-400ii.

Two work arounds I used were; just grab the manual focus ring and twist it a bit if AF gives up - this resets it and lets it try again. Or, enable focus peaking and manually focus.

That’s the only scenario I ever experienced AF issues with. Drove me bonkers.

Good luck.