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New Specs
A regular here at Canon Rumors sent this one in. He notes this person has been been right before.
60D Specs
– Articulating screen
– Metal body, similar To50D
– Upgraded 15.1mp APS-C Sensor
– 720p/1080p Video at 30fps
– Electronic Level
– New battery & battery grip
– Price about $ 1190
550D/600D Specs
– Articulating screen
– Body smaller than 500D
– Upgraded 15.1mp APS-C Sensor
– 720p Video at 30fps
– Price about $ 799
From: http://translate.google.com/….
Apparently the two cameras will be available in May. That's a big wait if a February announcement is for real.
thanks Yitzy
cr

Hm, “Upgraded 15.1mp APS-C Sensor” sound good.
can’t wait to see, if it tops the image quality of the 7D 18mp APS-C sensor.
I just don’t believe Canon will put articulated screens on the XXD series. Maybe on the Rebel series to fight Nikon’s D5000, but using articulated screens usually asks for smaller screens and I think people who buys XXD series are more interested about the quality of the screen itself than with an articulated one.
Electronic level? Maybe but I doubt it too..
All the rest seems pretty certain..
The 60D sounds interesting if it has got 1080p, what is the possibility that the US/Japan versions will be 30fps and the European models 25fps?
It wouldn’t be an issue if everyone was using the same standards for HD broadcasting.
Online delivery of content will be much bigger than any of the different digital broadcast regions it may not be much of an issue what frame rate video is in, but it would’ve been good to set an International Standard that makes it easier to produce for global delivery.
Maybe it’s cause of import duties?
60D is missing a must feature – 7D AF…
A new model means reducing weight too? I wonder
rumored 60D specs: what are the possible advantages of a metal body wheatersealing wise? or does just feel like an exagerated IXUS-Body? anyone?
Ditto. The combination of the 7D sensor tech without the ridiculous pixel density could be very, very good.
6ixth!! =D
Articulating screen on the Rebels would be a nice-to-have feature if it’s side-hinged unlike the D5000 which is bottom-hinged, and if the size & res of the screen doesn’t get sacrificed, so maybe a backlight-less AMOLED screen would make it thin enough, unlike (again) the D5000 screen which is too thick it protrudes from the back, thus affecting the VF sight.
I rate the 60D as CR0, instead, the 500D successor (550D/600D) would be uprated to more directly match up with the D90 (viz., solid glass pentaprism, slightly higher FPS, etc.). The 1000D successor (2000D) would go between the D5000 and the D3000, which is a rebadged D60, which is a rebadged D40X, which is a rebadged D40 with a noisier 10MP Sony sensor.
I do hope there is an updated battery grip. The BG-E2N feels outdated on the 40D and 50D. No AF-On and extra joystick and its not a snug fit on the body’s shape.
Articulating screen would be good for videographers. I just hope its a 3″ LCD 930k dot articulating screen. :D If not, I’d rather have a non-articulating high-res screen to better assess sharpness and focus in the field.
Don’t be foolish, Canon will NEVER do that as this would mean instant death of the 7D.
The AF system is the main selling point of the 7D so forget it, you won’t see it back in a 60D.
So it is not a forgotten feature. 60D will get your 50D’s 9 point AF system.
The 60D and 500D successor are coming along nicely, but Nikon will be updating their D90 as well.
I saw the Neutral Day reports about the 1D Mark 4 and was shocked by the 1D Mark 4’s poor high-ISO performance. It was worse than the 5D Mark 2, for christ’s sake! The D3s supposedly has a 1.5 stop improvement over the D3 at high ISOs, which means that the 1D Mark 4 and 1Ds Mark 4 must keep pace. I’m worried that the D90 successor will outshine the 50D and 500D successors and Canon users will have to feel sheepish about their purchasing decisions.
no 19 points. Maybe 13?
Why is it ridiculous again?
60D slightly smaller than 50D – but with better weather sealing? what’s the prevailing opinion?
If that 60D is real, Canon just shot themselves in the foot and hand both. dumb moves.
I like the idea of a new Rebel…..but SMALLER??? Gosh, it took how many complaints until Canon FINALLY made the hand grip on the Rebel bigger! The Rebel is the SMALLEST it ever should be right now! Any smaller, and it’d be a point and shoot and not a dslr. I HOPE this rumor isn’t true.
Also, what no 1080p???? Adding a crippled 1080p to the 500D at 20fps was a HUGE marketing mistake. But to now take 1080p away entirely while other entry level dslrs are adding it would be an even BIGGER MISTAKE.
No. Canon should add a PROPER 24fps 1080p feature on the new rebel and make amends for their last oversight.
People will be pissed if they just take it away. And EQUALLY pissed if they leave it at 20fps!
$400 difference for metal body, level and chipped battery – not very compeling on just those specs.
Yes the 1080 vid is better than 720 but this is a camera.
I hoped for more but a smaller screen sounds bad.
I hope real life is more interesting.
I wish they would just release the 60D already, so I know which camera I’m going to be buying/saving for.
I’m not going to spoonfeed you Ken. Figure it out for yourself.
C’mon Canon. No articulating screen! They keep getting so close to the perfect specs, and then they throw something dumb in there to ruin it. :(
what kind of photographer are you that you are worrying about feeling sheeping about your purchasing decisions? the proof is in the pudding; we’re not stock analysts that ride our reputation on the value of our investments, we’re photographers that ride our reputation on the final print.
worry about the quality of your work instead of worrying about measuring up the size of your grain. what is this, middle school?
well they gotta leave some reason for people to want to upgrade, eh? it’s like leaving plot holes for a sequel
well… I think your ignoring something, the xxd body, whether you find the size too big too small, in almost all measures handles better then the xxxd line. With the 2 dials and various other controls, and perhaps it would see some of the controls passed down from the 7d which could be a further improvement.
there’s other benefits of the XXD line over the rebels. ergonomics, viewfinder, AF… all of these things count.
and those of us who shoot risky (not war-photog risky, more like action-sports risky) setups do appreciate the metal body
+1000
ALL xxD cameras have metal bodies, so will the 60D.
Oh, so I have to spoonfeed you the fact that it’s just the best APS-C sensor out there now? What’s ridiculous with that again?
If you need a bigger body, and 1080p24, just go get a 5D or 7D and shut up.
personally, I LIKE the ergonomics of the current Rebel. Even tho I have big hands, it is the PERFECT size for travel photography. If they make it smaller tho, it’ll become uncomfortable to hold. IMHO.
Right now, I have perfected a way to hold the Rebel in my big hands and it fits nicely. Barely, but nicely. Any smaller, and it wouldn’t work for me anymore.
QUOTE: “Venera Canon 60D will announce the successor to the great 50th! במאי הקרוב לפי הנתונים הראשונים לא יהו הרבה שינויים פרט לוידאו שיתווסף רמוט טריגרינג לפלאשים ועוד כמה פיצרים May close by the first data and who is not much changes except the video added to vermouth Trigring Falashas and some Fitzrim
יחד איתה תוצג מצלמה חדשה מסדרת הרבל XXXD With her new camera will show a series of Herbal XXXD”
So apparently this “60D” would also get the remote flash trigger from the 7D? Heck, what else can they strip down from the 7D?
And, oh, Herbal Rebels==TEH WINNAR
I disagree with the people who say that the Rebel series are already too small. The T1i (500D) measures 129mm x 98mm x 62mm, compared to the Panasonic GH1, which measures 124mm x 89.6mm x 45.2mm. I don’t hear everyone complaining about the GH1, so the problem with the Rebels seems to be ergonomics, not simply size.
For those people that will point out that the GH1 can be made smaller because it’s micro 4/3rds, I would say -look at the Canon AE-1: 141mm x 87mm x48mm. Lets not forget that the AE-1 needed to be big enough to wind a 35mm film spool inside.
I’m not trying to suggest that there would not be design challenges involved, only that cameras seem to have been subject to ‘size creep’. In the 1970s the Olympus OM-1 launched a trend of smaller SLR cameras. Perhaps that trend will repeat itself and we can have a smaller, less chunky DSLR for when we don’t need 8fps, 19pt AF etc. and would prefer something slighly more discreet and easy to carry. It would save having to buy a whole new lens system!
i love gay cameras… they are made for gays like me!!
Size creep is so right ! and I don’t like it !
I don’t understand it also, the Rebels are the same size as the equivalent plastic Nikons, yet when DPR reviews them, they only complain about the “ergonomics” of the Rebels, not of the plastic Nikons. So I surmise it has to be the size & shape of the Rebels’ handgrip. Canon should just make it fatter, and maybe curved like a banana similar to the film Rebels.
Congrats, you have the best post in the thread. Hats off to you.
Okay, I’ll spell it out for you: if they’d applied the sensor technology used in the 7D to a sensor with larger pixels (i.e. the density of the 50D) they would have had one of the best sensors ever developed.
As it is, they produced a sensor which produces harsh, coarse looking images with unacceptable levels of noise at low ISOs.
I’m in a good mood I’m going to save you some time. Now is the point where you:
– tell me I know nothing
– tell me that my opinion counts for nothing
– call me a “Nikon fanboi”
– say that I probably don’t even own an SLR
– any combination of the above but with expletives
– etc.
All reviews have stated that it’s the best APS-C camera out there now, in large part due to that “ridiculously pixel-dense” sensor. 12MP is so 2000 and late…
my hands cramp in about a minute when using the rebel bodies… 50D feels good, 5D feels better
If you really NEED more than 9 points, you have the 7D.
This is often suggested. But exactly how would you remove sensors from the 19 and end up with a sensible pattern?
Why’s everybody so 2000 and hate?
I am fed up with people complaining about high pixel density. Use sRaw, M, S or whatever takes your fancy, and get the same results as using a 12MP sensor.However, should you feel a need to crop, don’t come crying to me.
I agree. Why is Feb 8 so far awa?
Ignorance is bliss.
Well, the T1i gets the job done pretty well for travel. I think that there are ergonomic improvements that could still be made. Why couldn’t’ the camera be smaller and more ergonomic. Bigger protruding grip, but overall smaller volume?
I think it’s totally possible.
I agree.
Finally someone!
Thank you, Justin.
I agree with you traveler.
I’m a big guy, big hands I can reach an octave plus two on the piano.
I own both a 7D and a 400D. My 400D is my travel cam (I’m on the road several months each year) and my 7D is my studio cam. I like both.
I have no trouble handling my 400D. If they can pack even more IQ and even more features into a smaller package then that’s great! This could trigger an upgrade for me.
How, if someone could hack the firmware of that 550D so that it does full-HD… but we’re getting ahead of ourselves here.
Using sRAW doesn’t increase the pixel pitch.
excellent point
I know real photographers will think I’m an idiot but I’m considering selling my 7D at a loss for a 60D (think of the loss as a 5mo rental fee).
I bought a 7D back in Oct09 simply because I wanted a 50D + Video. It’s definitely an impressive camera but it’s beyond my skill level and since I use it to take clips of my new baby then the articulating screen is exactly what i’ve been waiting for.
Obviously this is all rumor, but IF this 60D is legit then what do I lose in downgrading from 7D to 60D?
Is it impossible to maintain the same screen size but make it articulating. Video on DSLR’s is the trend but holding a camera at eye level a foot in front of your face is an extremely awkward way to record things. I’ve used the articulating screen on the Nikon d5000 and it’s so much more comfortable holding it at chest level so I’m actually very curious to how this will all play out.
I don’t think that is stupid at all. A 60d may produce images as good or better than 7d AND the video files will be much more useful at 720 (although same int 1080p). Why? Because 720 at 30fps will run WAY better on most computers. 7d only runs 720 at 50 and 60 fps. This produces choppy video on all but the most powerful PCs.
This is exactly what I am looking for as well.
The big quesion to me is will the 60d have an audio input jack like the 7d. That is critical. If it does, than nothing in either the Canon or Nikon line (at the consumer / prosumer level) will touch this camera.
A 60d may produce images as good or better than 7d AND the video files will be much more useful at 720 (although same int 1080p). Why? Because 720 at 30fps will run WAY better on most computers. 7d only runs 720 at 50 and 60 fps. This produces choppy video on all but the most powerful PCs.
This is exactly what I am looking for.
The big quesion to me is will the 60d have an audio input jack like the 7d. That is critical. If it does, than nothing in either the Canon or Nikon line (at the consumer / prosumer level) will touch this camera.
Yeah, if they pop in the 7D AF then what is left?
Better sealing and 1.7fps extra??
And they don’t need better AF in it since now this goes against the D90 and they have given us the xxD with better AF in the 7 series.
One thing though, if it has DIGIC-V, which I’m now doubting perhaps, then the video could actually be of FAR higher quality than that from the 5D2/7D/1D4 even! If the rumors about proper sampling are true it should be free of the aliasing/moire mess of the current cameras suffer from.
yeah, who designed this p.o.s.?
http://www.pbase.com/image/120420831
look at all that noise at iso500!
/sarcasm
no joke – i had no idea the biggest a-holes i’d find on the internet are photographers!
If you want to see real a-holes visit the political blogs. This is nothing.
articulating screen i am not sure where you may make your images but almost all of mine are made hiking in sometimes rough areas and all i can imagine happening to that screen is damage, snapped off or scratched or flopping out when not needed and off to canon for the expensive repair might be great for inside or wedding photos and macro but i like it the way it is.
You’ll probably loose the 7D AF, buffer size and a few frames per second. If that doesn’t bother you then a 60D (assuming the listed specs) is a better camera for most people.
I hope for an articulated screen omn 60D. Olympus have one on their three best models, Panasonic got a 3 inch one on G1/GH1 and there are no reason why Canon shouldn’t be able to fit an articulated 3 inch one on a body as large as the 50D.
Btw, I’d also much rather have a 2.7″ (like G11) or even a 2.5″ articulated screen than a 3″ fixed one.
I have a 400D… Should I wait on the 60D or get the 7D? I don’t need one now, but I am hoping to upgrade before I go to Europe this summer. I shoot lots of sports and also some urban, nature, and other stuff, but the majority of stuff is sports.
I will have about 2k to spend.. Should I get a 50D + nicer lens, 60D + nicer lens, or a 7D with kit lens (like the 28-135). I really want the 7D but I don’t know it if would be too much camera for me (although I grew out the 400D kinda fast).
One of the great things about articulated screens are the ruggedness. When not in use you turn it in against the camera body where it’s much better protected than normal fixed screens.
When you put it in the “normal position” like an ordinary fixed LCD-screen then it just as having a normal fixed screen.
It’s only when it’s turned out to the side that an articulated screen is more vulnerable, and there are no reason to keep it in that position unless you’re actually taking pictures.
The only disadvantage of an articulted screen is that the hinge and the frame areound the screen makes it slightly bigger and heavier. I’ve used a number of cameras with articulted screens, and one (still in use) is more then four years old and I’ve never had any reliability problems with the screen.
life is too short.
7d is the canon sports king!
Yup. Mostly elitist techno-snobs that do more pixel peeping than shooting.
I agree. I held the Nikon D90 today in Best Buy and it’s about the same size as my 450D, yet a lot more comfortable to hold.
Well, it’s intresting. Even though I’ll wait out the 7D Mk II release somewhere down the road…while my 30D gently clicks.
“it has to be the size & shape of the Rebels’ handgrip”
That’s exactly the problem. Too skinny for those of us with large hands.
You really don’t find the 7D more comfortable to hold?
I have no problem handling my 450D, but it’s certainly not comfortable after long periods of use. With the larger bodies my hand is more open, so it’s resting in my palm, rather than being squeezed there with my fingers.
I also have carpal tunnel, and work on a computer 6 days/week. So that may be why it’s more strenuous to me.
You should probably wait and see what the specs are on the 60D before you decide. No sense basing your decision on rumors.
+1
Wow, an actual intelligent comment about articulated screens as opposed to the “OMG flip screen r not 4 pure photog neway GETITAWAYGETITAWAYGETITAWAY” you normally see. And ironically from someone named “spam”.
I recall the same sort of outrage at Live View. Guess what? It’s good for use on tripods and non-eye level shooting, both of which “true” (whatever that is) photographers are more likely to do anyway. So there!
Once this camera is released, do you think the 7D would drop in price?
As for handholding – I suppose I prefer the 7D.
For hanging around my neck and walking around town – drebel, no question.
No.
The 50D AF is no slouch. :)
You should always go for what you need. Your camera choice should not be dictated by specs alone. :)
I have both 450D and 7D.
Your experience mirrors mine.
Wish the 7D is a lot lighter though. Then again, I enjoy the large viewfinder. Guess we can’t have everything. LOL.
That’s why pegging the 60D weight to the D90 makes a lot of sense.
It can be smaller but have a better grip. The D40/60/3000 are smaller (albeit heavier) with a much more comfortable grip. Canon needs to improve that grip. I’ve used my T1i since launch, and it was fine, unless I shot for a while. I just got a 580EXII, and within minutes I was getting cramps. They need to fix that asap.
I still can’t believe they’ve superseded the 500d that quickly if this is true.
Spend some time laying on your face getting macro shots and see if you hold the same opinion.
Been waiting to see if a 60D comes out in the next few months rather than buying the 7D. For me personally, a decent 60D with movie mode with a 24-105mm L IS lens is worth the extra few hundred bucks over the 7D with the Kit lens(28-135).
That said, 24-105 isn’t exactly a sport lens, so each situation is it’s own beast.
“60D Specs
– Articulating screen
– Metal body, similar To50D
– Upgraded 15.1mp APS-C Sensor
– 720p/1080p Video at 30fps
– Electronic Level
– New battery & battery grip”
Sensible and unspectacular, seems like a natural evolution of that product line but I would be surprised if it really used a new battery. A new grip is probable, a new batter is unlikely.
“550D/600D Specs
– Articulating screen
– Body smaller than 500D
– Upgraded 15.1mp APS-C Sensor
– 720p Video at 30fps”
Don’t see how it can have a smaller body if it has articulating screen. This feature alone will make it slightly bulkier.
my point exactly
First of all you have to answer a question why do you want to upgrade – how exactly if your 400D limiting you as a photographer?
Unless you have some higher artistic ambitions or make your living from it any upgrade to a newer model will not result in “better” pictures, unless you make VERY big prints you will not even notice any potential increase in IQ. It’s different of course if you want to get into video which 400D is obviously lacking.
My advice is get some good glass, extra accessories (tripod, good quality camera bag, filters, flashgun if you don’t have one, etc) and hone your skills with the current camera. You should upgrade once you know enough not to ask the question you have asked.
What’s with the Hebrew?
‘Course Yitzy would know…
Jews on Wall Street…
2.7″… duh
G11’s the same size as G10, but has articulating LCD!
It’s similar size, not the same and it is slightly bigger overall.
Neither does increasing the pixel pitch improve on IMAGE quality.
Increasing the pixel pitch will also NOT increase the amount of light falling on the whole sensor.
Smaller screen, miss
Really hoping that the 60D has an improved/updated AF system.
Not sure about the articulating screen, but it seems like it could be useful, I’d just be concerned about durability.
j; you call my comment outrage you must lead a shelterd life i have had images hung in new yorks hecksher museum and the new york legislature positive reviews by margaret moorman in new york newsday bla bla bla and thats old stuff done with an old camera with one prime lens,But i havefor the last five years ben shooting digital and i love it but you make the image the camera is just a tool. Here’s some outrage, can you take a great photo without an articulating screen can you find your ass from a hole in the ground without GPS you can make great photos witout all the B.S
For a lot of people, especially 500D successor/ 60D buyers, the price of a DSLR is a lot of money. If they buy it and it turns out to be a waste of money compared to the alternatives, they’ll feel awful.
An articulating screen would be very useful for video.
I still have a G3 with articulating screen. My son has used the G3 for the past 3 years (he is 11). He, and his friends, can be pretty rough with it and the screen is still working fine.
I want to get into video, so I’d love an articulating screen.
But will the 60D have a direct print button?
There is nothing wrong with 50D AF sensor.
Unfortunately, the 7D is a good mechanic, af, dual cpu, fps, but the photo are furred. Some guys after about two month with the 7D, now sell it.
So, I keep my good 450D for now. Obviously, wait Nikon news too.
Regards and excuse me for my bad English
If a 60D is launched it will be interesting to see how close it is pitched to the 7D.
Just got a feeling that the 7D is going to move “up-market” and get a APS-H sensor and become a baby 1D Mark4. The 5D Mark2 replacement (3D?) will then become the baby 1Ds Mark4. All these using the same sensors as their bigger brothers?
I own a 7D and it does not produce harsh or coarse images, nor is the noise unacceptable even at high ISO. I love the fine detail the 18 MP sensor produces.
Do you own one? Have any stick time with one? Or are you just repeating what you’ve heard based on wild theories?
I have BOTH 450D and 7D now. Anyone who says he finds the 7D photos soft should either (i) have the camera + lens AF checked or (ii) get his eyes checked.
550D/600D will be a monster of technology in a tiny body
Still don’t get what they would strip down from the 7D to make this so-called 60D. Heck, if I had $1300, I’d pony up the extra shekels to get the better 7D. I say it’s more likely the 550D/600D goes up-market to fight the D90.
http://www.prophotohome.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/aftorturetest.jpg
+1 and I’ll take your advice
That doesn’t mean that it can’t be improved.
thumbs up !
+1
At least the center point
especially if it has the 7d sensor technology, even at “just” 15 megapixels. the only big difference with the 7d will be a heavy-duty body, the different AF system, the speed, and video.
When it comes down to the actual IQ, the 550/600D may actually be very close to the 7D!
Did you understand it that way?
no joke.
http://www.pbase.com/image/120420831
I have a 400D and I’m limited by it. No custom settings in its dial, ISO flexibility, K white balance, etc. xxD has better handling and can more readily respond to my shooting needs.
“Jews on Wall Street”? What’s that supposed to mean?
Well, there’s also option 3: it’s soft relative to it’s resolution (as in viewing at 100%, especially before any sharpening), but still out resolves all other crop bodies (even if only by a very small amount).
Some people (myself included) find this lack of per pixel sharpness a little disappointing, but expected.
Again, I’m not suggesting it’s a bad camera, everyone has their own set of needs/wants from a camera, and is entitled to judge said camera based upon them.
Nothing, Daguerre’s an idiot, and apparently this runs in the family.
a 60D will be the more useless camera like the efs lens
Not a racist, Adrian.
Yitzy is a Jewish nickname.
not an anti-Semite either. Nor an “idiot”.
“Runs in the family”?
nice one LOL, first time I hear it.
Confirmed.
Then why the reference to Wall Street, or the speculation into the source’s religion at all?
I do not own a 50D or a 40D…I am currently using a Digital Rebel/300D. So, if the AF from the 50D moved to the 60D it would be a big improvement for me. But, after reading reviews and checking out the 50D in person, I would just like some of the 7D improvements to work their way into the 60D AF system. I fully understand the the whole AF system probably will not work its way down, but some of the components may.
Do you seriously think that canon is already working or even thinking of anouncing a 550D?!?
The 500D is 10Months old now! Not even a year!
Plus it’s state of the art, a very nice camera, in the xxxD series.
@60D
You can bet they won’t stick to the 15mpix. They didn’t do it with the 7D where it might have been usefull, so they will shure as hell not do it for the 60D.
(Thank god.)
Just curious, I’d love to see your online gallery with some info how you would take better pics if you had more “options”.
I was surprised to see a replacement for the 500d rumored so soon. But if you think about it there is some logic. The entry level rebel drops out of production, the 500d drops a level, and the 550 plops into its place. All of there entry level cams get an upgrade while only re-designing two models.
Makes sense. I hope they ad an improved auto focus to the 60d and the sensor technology of the 7d. I would snag that in a second if they do. That last crap… I mean crop… of 15 mp sensors where soft as dog poo.
7d sensor proved pixel density can still be pushed. Not much more though I thinks.
No AF improvement ?
No 3″ lcd ??
= NO SALE.
Because most of the guys on Wall Street are Jewish, so naturally Yitzy has inside info on Canon…
You don’t know me – don’t make assumptions as too my mental status
Of course they didn’t do it with the 7D. You see, Canon marketing team still believes that megapixels sell. If for no other reason, because of this belief they had to differentiate the upcoming 7D from the older 50D, among other things, in megapixel count.
Anyway, I can see Canon putting 15MP in the 60D, in order not to undercut the 7D’s sales. If they do; thank god.
You are basing this assumption on which past experience? After all, there has never been a sensor size increase within an existing product line, so what makes you think that is ever going to happen?
Regarding those who are already waiting for the 7D successor: You do realize, that this is going to be a really long wait? Being positioned between the xxD and the <=5D line, I expect a product cycle somewhere between that of those lines, probably 18 months. Certainly, that camera is going to rock, but, for me, taking pictures right now beats pleasant anticipation.
No he probubly bought one, used it twice, looked at everything at 100% and said it sucked and took it back :)
He’s likely one of those people who does nothing but look at images at 100%
In that case what he really wants is a 1 pixel camera, with one pixel the size of an APS-C sensor, Best 100% camera ever made ;)
Also as a fellow 7D owner, despite the fact i’ve sadly not been able to use it much I’ve been plenty happy with the “crappy” 18 megapixel sensor…Its a heck of a lot better than my 8-megapixel 30D since I now actually can use ISO1600 with no worries or qualms [6400 is like 1600 on the 30D, and im more than happy using 6400 on my 7D because of this]
Zzzzzzzzzzz
Wake me when a new FF that doesn’t cost $9k is released.
MOAAARRR!
Maybe Canon is more worried about the Sony A550 than Nikon D90 for the growing consumer DSLR market? Time will tell, this year is gonna be interesting.
p.s. I rather wait 18 months for a 7D with improved/other sensor (beaten to death story) than going to the madhouse taking noisy, soft images
Someone finally bought my 5D2, now I can buy a good camera (D700).
I didn’t even want to swap, but I got sick of Canon trying to F us in the A. I will finally have autofocus that works, weather sealing and and a decent frame rate. The 5D2 won’t be missed.
Both 500D and 50D have 3″ LCD.
Fair enough, but do I think it’s pretty safe to make assumptions as “too” your intelligence.
how much did you get for it?
Lol?
“I will finally have autofocus that works, weather sealing and and a decent frame rate”
That’s exactly the description for the 7D, you do know that?
Typographical error… sheesh…
1990/2400 SAT
Two-time participant in Scripps National Spelling Bee
Don’t make assumption as TO my intelligence…
Your “language” wouldn’t be missed either.
for months i’ve been waiting for a replacement for my favorite 40d. i have no problems with my 40d. it does everything i need. but i need to have another body so might as well buy something better. but i wont go into FF. the 50d was a disappointment. ive been thinking about the 7D but then people have split opinions on it, making me confused in buying it. i decided to wait for the 60d before making the decision, but heck the articulating screen and no AF improvement. anyway, these are all rumors.
for 7D users out there, how does it really perform especially from iso 100-1600? could you also provide me a link on some of your shots. thanks!
by the way, i usually shoot using available light. so noise performance is really important to me. im happy with my 40d but i get to use it only up to iso 1000 i would not dare go beyond.
I used to avoid going over ISO 1000 with my 40D. But 1600 works quite well, especially for indoor sports. Just use a little noiseware.
LOL, yeah besides one important factor, a full frame sensor.. or is the 7D’s crop sensor really that “EPIC”?
Canon fanboi ftl
LOL, pwnd
Same reasons I am thinking about swapping systems. 5D2s Autofocus is about 6 years old, “F us in the A” is right. Not to mention Canons new AF still not being as good as Nikons 3D Matrix AF system, which recognizes color and distance.
Now THATS being sensetive.
Anyway, if you’re such a great photographer then why would you even be so invested in the tech specs of a 60D or Rebel? You’re obviously a much better photographer than most people who those cameras are targeted for so what’s wrong with the pros getting their solid weatherproofed classically molded machines and the prosumers getting something that gives them more flexibility for their learning curve.
Articulating screens are nice. GPS is nice. These things aren’t essentials but they are welcome additions to many people who’ve actually used them.
looking for Canon to come out with either a 60d.. or an updated 7d Mk 1.. with the ability to use both CF and SD cards for those of us moving up from the Xsi class–gotta do something with my dozen or more SD cards I have — similar to what Nikon did with their d300s.. don’t need video although that’s a hot marketing item these days..
as for lenses.. an updated 100-400is without the push/pull zoom.. get with it Canon.. and a 400is
geez come to think of it.. I’m not asking for much from Canon.. just to get with it and ‘ketchup’ to Nikon… I really don’t want to switch
+1. Good glass will make your old camera sing
I just meant that using m or sRAW won’t improve IQ either. No need to get snippy.
No me gusta articulating screen.