I never EVER use the White Balance or the +/- button on top of the camera, I have +/- on the thump wheel, where I have had it for 35 years, and WB I set in post, just to say that not having these very well placed buttons available for customisation, is really, really stupid, it is some of the easiest accessible buttons on the camera, and they sit completely unused, and I bet that thát really goes for the most of us....

Any way, great if one-button precapture become a reality, an odd decision though, if they don't add it to the R5.2 also, thát is also a very expensive camera, and if they don't, I guess they will throw a lot of potential R5.2 customers in the direction of the R6.3, if not Sony/Nikon....;- /

Pretty bummed this is f/4. I've been hoping for a 2.8 lens like this, though ideally starting at 18mm instead. I'd be willing to accept size and cost close to the 15-35. If Sony can make a 20-70/4, so can Canon. I have a hard time believing there's a larger market for gimbal users who want an internal zooming lens in this focal range and size/weight, compared to users who want a travel friendly lens that goes wider than 24mm. That Sony lens has been a real hit. But whatever, Canon does what Canon wants.

Guess I'll just wait for them to update the 24-105/4... which I suspect we'll be waiting several more years for, sadly. I hope I'm wrong.

blobmonster said:

Yes the size of the R8 is a massive advantage. Thats also ironically why Id love to see a built in flash.

Paired with the 28mm and a 50mm, there would be no lens shadow, and you don't need to bring a flash when travelling light. Its a real shame that you can buy the best full frame cameras but if you want a built in flash, you always need the aps-c. It makes little sense to me. If Im using a big lens, I will pack a big flash.

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I would also like to see a built in flash on the R8 II. I've used it a few times with my 90D and M50 II for butterflies to fill in the light.

Del Paso said:

You'll see it when reviewing in camera the picture you've just taken.

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Oh yes, that first message you get when booting up the camera. Very annoying.

AlanF said:

Hell, th

Hell, the site kept changing C o c k (without spaces) to penis!? I'll type it without spaces here, penis. And it changes it again!

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Just think what it will be like when Word Press incorporates AI .

robholding said:

One firmware feature I’d really love to see on the R5 Mark II is a dedicated “spirit level only” display mode.

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Can that be set up already? It can on my R1.

Glad to see that the new R1 firmware will allow us to assign a button to turn precapture on and off. Thank you Canon.

I do wonder what the major autofocus enhancement will be. It could be the addition of other sports under the Sports events setting?

I am going on a trip with the R1 in mid-May so I will not be updating the firmware until I get back (although the pre-assigned button has me tempted).

Honestly if they could add open gate I would be happy! Even if it requires the add on battery cooler.

robholding said:

One firmware feature I’d really love to see on the R5 Mark II is a dedicated “spirit level only” display mode.
At the moment, pressing INFO cycles through a black screen, a clean image with no info, and then the full info overlay which includes the level, but there’s no option to show just the level on its own without all the other icons and data.

A clean, standalone level (ideally slightly larger) would be incredibly useful for tripod work, interiors, architecture and landscapes. It’s a small firmware change that would make a big difference in real‑world shooting. Am I alone?

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You can turn off and edit all those screens. I am shooting real estate a lot and basicly I have one screen with histogram and big level (you can actually choose small or big one) and clean one. So pushing INFO btn I am quickly switching between those.

Hell, th

AlanF said:

C o c k Linnet this afternoon (R5ii + RF 200-800mm).

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Hell, the site kept changing C o c k (without spaces) to penis!? I'll type it without spaces here, penis. And it changes it again!

One firmware feature I’d really love to see on the R5 Mark II is a dedicated “spirit level only” display mode.
At the moment, pressing INFO cycles through a black screen, a clean image with no info, and then the full info overlay which includes the level, but there’s no option to show just the level on its own without all the other icons and data.

A clean, standalone level (ideally slightly larger) would be incredibly useful for tripod work, interiors, architecture and landscapes. It’s a small firmware change that would make a big difference in real‑world shooting. Am I alone?

Along with the R7 mark II I suppose.

Maximilian said:

Backlit wren, singing enchantingly, but not for me

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A nice interplay of light and shadow. I especially like the second one.

While we are on to flying geese, this pair of Canada had remarkable synchronization (R5ii + RF 100-500mm).

neuroanatomist said:

When I travel with the R8, I take the 270EX II ‘just in case’.

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Yes that' what I sometimes do, that way you have proper fill flash for hss with wide apertures. Unfortunately though, its just one more thing to remember to bring and its still bulky/not twistable when not needed or for in-home use, so I don't leave it on the camera.

I own lots of flashes, but my favourite flash is the built-in flash because I dont have to worry about charging it or putting it on if I need it for snapshots. I can just pop it up, and it doesn't get knocked when not in use, or add hardly any weight. With modern iso, they dont need to be powerful to make a big difference.

I own lots of big flashes, but I've never found a small flash that I love more than a built in flash. My favourite is the one on my little M6 cos' it bounces, but bounce is not necessary. I do still love the direct flash look with -1 exp comp or -1 fec. I dont like dingy/shady shots of faces, flash means I'm in control of the light and have options.

With the 28mm, an r8ii would be brilliant to sling round the shoulder for casual outings, but unless it has a flash, I'd honestly prefer an r10 with ef-s 24mm.

Noise said:

How do you handle lens that don't have a lens control ring to assign ISO to, or the lens control ring is switched between focus and control ring?

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Not an issue, for me.

First off, I don’t have many of either. Lenses without a control ring, I only have three EF-mount lenses – the 600/4 II that I only use in Fv, and the TS-E 17/24 where I’m composing on the rear LCD anyway, so I use that to set ISO.

I have only two RF lenses that lack a dedicated control ring, the 24-240 and the 28/2.8. I use those lenses only when traveling, and therefore on my R8 exclusively. They are only used handheld on the go, so autofocus and auto ISO only.

If you haven’t used Fv mode, I suggest you give it a try. I put off doing so for a long time, but after trying it I disabled Av and Tv modes on my R3 then my R1, and the only modes I use are M and Fv (more accurately, I use just three C# modes based on Fv, and have also disabled Fv, such that with mode changing assigned to the M.Fn button I can rapidly cycle through just the three C# modes and M).

Fv came with the EOS R, and is designed to enable easy manual control of the three sides of the exposure triangle with just two dials.

blobmonster said:

If Im using a big lens, I will pack a big flash.

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When I travel with the R8, I take the 270EX II ‘just in case’.

Yes that video from Fro was an April Fools joke.

Mxw.be said:

So no rfs lenses in the pipeline?

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Viltrox once released some lenses for RF. Canon made a bunch of legal threats and Viltrox pulled those lenses and removed all mention of them from their website. It's as though the lenses never existed, but they did. Same thing happened with Samyang with the same result.

Canon has always been the most aggressively anti-third-party glass, and now they have patents on the mount & protocols to effectively block RF users from having choice.

If choice is important to you, RF is the wrong mount to own.

So no rfs lenses in the pipeline?

neuroanatomist said:

More than a little bit bigger, which for some would be a significant negative and not at all an improvement.

Personally, I like that the R8 uses the LP-E17, because it shares that battery with other cameras that I have and often travel with – the PowerShot V1, M6II and my full spectrum M6. Three of those bodies can charge the battery in-camera, meaning I don't even need to bring the wall-wart charger.

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Yes the size of the R8 is a massive advantage. Thats also ironically why Id love to see a built in flash.

Paired with the 28mm and a 50mm, there would be no lens shadow, and you don't need to bring a flash when travelling light. Its a real shame that you can buy the best full frame cameras but if you want a built in flash, you always need the aps-c. It makes little sense to me. If Im using a big lens, I will pack a big flash.

Uneternal said:

Crop the 28mm by 1.25 and you have a 35mm. On a 32MP sensor, you'll have 20.5MP left.

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Yes that's why it would be great to see Canon bring back the 1.3 crop mode from the 5DS (i.e. like aps-h) where you can compose in the focal length you plan to keep, and still have the raw file.

Digital cropping is amazing with the lens quality and resolution these days. Thats why popular compact cameras like the leica q3 and fuji x100 employ it. I'd often rather crop a f1.4 prime by 1.3x or 1.6x than use an f4 zoom of the same size. Even cropped, the f1.4 output will have potential for shallower depth of field. The 1.3x raw crop would be amazing for the 28mm pancake.

As photographers we typically want to compose and think in the focal length of the output. So technically while the image quality would be much more than adequate, the actual photographs would still have been composed at 28mm unless I use a 35mm ovf (something I love to do on flat top cameras but which looks silly and gives up a lot with an r5 or r8 etc...) not to mention cropping every file in post is time consuming. The Leica q3 files keep the full raw but apply the crop automatically in the file so you don't have to adjust unless you need to...

(1) Canon may eventually update the 24-105 f/4L.
In case someone has intelligent commentary -- I don't !

(2) The 24-105 f/4L has external zoom (image courtesy of Ken Rockwell):

neuroanatomist said:

I suppose those are possible, but I don’t think they’re at all likely. Call Canon directly.

How often do you manually adjust ISO in a hurry? Personally, I almost never do so outside of situations where I have ample time, Auto ISO is my usual setting in both Fv and M (those are the only modes I use). On my R1, I have ISO assigned to the lens control ring and EC assigned to the Quick Control Dial (on the back around the Set button), so when I need EC it’s easy to dial in with my thumb, without taking my eye from the viewfinder.

If I need to set ISO manually, which I do when setting up flash shooting, or on a tripod, I have time to adjust it using the lens control ring or the rear LCD.

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Thank! Good idea. I like your assigning of exposure compensation to the back wheel in manual mode with auto ISO so it similar to where it is assigned in Av and Tv. How do you handle lens that don't have a lens control ring to assign ISO to, or the lens control ring is switched between focus and control ring?