Quack said:

Do a lot of business with MPB and also with KEH. Prices for used Canon gear has gone up in the past few months - but also the amount they give you for selling or trading your gear. Sold some gear recently that got me more money than when I first got my quote a year ago. They are still much better to deal with than B&H used or most brick and mortar stores who offer you far less. They, unlike most, post actual photos of the gear they sell, and give a far better description than KEH or other sellers, pointing out issues such as moisture or fungus in a lens. Maybe Europe is different. All my experience is with MPB in the USA, and they continue to be my #1 choice for used.

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Exploreshootshare said:

I used to buy a lot from (and also sell to) MPB, somewhere between 2017-2021. Since then, I noticed they raised their prices more or less drastically and also their resell offers went downhill. Atm, if I don't sell on Kleinanzeigen (or eBay) I sell to wirkaufens . de because they offer the most money and they've changed my estimate. I get what I signed up for. Sometimes the difference between those is several hundred €...

Buying gear from mpb is even worse: Canon Ra (astronomy) had a RRP of 2.500 € and MPB sold it for 3.000 €! The R6ii has basically lived at the 2.199 € price point for the last year, yet the "like new" was still above 2.200 € for a very long time. Buying a used camera at MPB would've cost more than buying a new. one.

I recently noticed though, that prices have come down a little bit... maybe their sale numbers went because they were/ are so greedy.

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LogicExtremist said:

Hi Alistair, you seem to praise anything Canon does and take it personally when anyone has a criticism of their products, a self-proclaimed Canon online spokesman. If Canon released a toilet roll tube with cling wrap on the end and an RF mount at the end you will be pre-ordering it and singing its praises from the rooftops. Your bias is so off the charts you're a perpetual source of bad guidance and advice to readers! I've seen your antics on dpreview, especially in the old days when you used to intentionally try to fill any thread critical of Canon with dozens of frivolous nonsense posts to reach the thread post limit prematurely and shut it down so nobody else could comment. Stupid fanboy antics. Did you get banned or reprimanded for that behavior on the old dpreview forum???

Do you even understand what VCM lenses are for? People need to understand that the Canon VCM lenses were designed primarily with video production in mind, not stills photography, and that this focus shapes the compromises inherent in the series. Unlike mid-tier stills lenses, which prioritize optical sharpness, high-resolution performance, and minimal aberrations across individual lenses, VCM lenses are engineered to maintain consistent size, weight, and handling across the entire zoom range to suit professional cinematography workflows. This design emphasis also aims to minimize focus breathing and facilitate smooth rack focusing, which are critical for video but largely irrelevant in stills work. As a result, optical tradeoffs such as slightly lower corner sharpness, chromatic aberration control, or distortion correction may be present—compromises that would not be tolerated in a stills-focused lens at the same price point. The series’ price positioning reflects not just the lens optics but the engineering needed for consistent form factor, video-friendly operation, and reliable performance across the zoom range, meaning that buyers prioritizing stills might encounter characteristics that differ from what they would expect in similarly priced photography lenses.

Just accept that there is a big gap in Canon's mid-tier photography lenses, and even some in its top tier. Where is the 35mm to match the top tier 85's? It's not here yet. The 50mm VCM is correctly compromised for video, and it's not clear what Canon's lens strategy is, as they're wanting to cash in on the increasing interest in videography at all tiers, but leave stills photographers with a mis-mash of varying quality consumer lenses, and really expensive pro-level lenses.

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Exploreshootshare said:

That´s what I thought, too. People believe they get a great deal, but they're too lazy to check. It is actually the same with amazon for several things.

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snapshot said:

i think people get used to places like MPB having good deals, and start assuming the deals are good without shopping around. places like MPB then try to monetize their customer's habbits.

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Del Paso said:

You are right!
I'll get this little cutie!

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CameraEngineer said:

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Exploreshootshare said:

I agree. Until COVID struck there was a 200 € rebate when you purchased the 24-105mm F4 L as a kit lens. For me, that really helped with the purchase. 1.199 € RRP - kit lens rebate - 10% in store rebate - 100 € cash back did add up to 800 € for this lens.

A kit lens should always have a rebate imho. Otherwise, I don't need to purchase a kit...

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Exploreshootshare said:

I used to buy a lot from (and also sell to) MPB, somewhere between 2017-2021. Since then, I noticed they raised their prices more or less drastically and also their resell offers went downhill. Atm, if I don't sell on Kleinanzeigen (or eBay) I sell to wirkaufens . de because they offer the most money and they've changed my estimate. I get what I signed up for. Sometimes the difference between those is several hundred €...

Buying gear from mpb is even worse: Canon Ra (astronomy) had a RRP of 2.500 € and MPB sold it for 3.000 €! The R6ii has basically lived at the 2.199 € price point for the last year, yet the "like new" was still above 2.200 € for a very long time. Buying a used camera at MPB would've cost more than buying a new. one.

I recently noticed though, that prices have come down a little bit... maybe their sale numbers went because they were/ are so greedy.

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Exploreshootshare said:

Go for it!!! The first reviews are very promising imho.
The financial risk is very low, even if you don´t like, you can sell with a minimal loss because will be looking for it.
I´m tempted even thought I now own the 50mm F1.4 VCM. I'll still rent the 45mm to see if I prefer it.

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Exploreshootshare said:

I used to buy a lot from (and also sell to) MPB, somewhere between 2017-2021. Since then, I noticed they raised their prices more or less drastically and also their resell offers went downhill. Atm, if I don't sell on Kleinanzeigen (or eBay) I sell to wirkaufens . de because they offer the most money and they've changed my estimate. I get what I signed up for. Sometimes the difference between those is several hundred €...

Buying gear from mpb is even worse: Canon Ra (astronomy) had a RRP of 2.500 € and MPB sold it for 3.000 €! The R6ii has basically lived at the 2.199 € price point for the last year, yet the "like new" was still above 2.200 € for a very long time. Buying a used camera at MPB would've cost more than buying a new. one.

I recently noticed though, that prices have come down a little bit... maybe their sale numbers went because they were/ are so greedy.

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EricN said:

Canon's defense should be to request a representative from Malikkie try to use canonconnect to control the a camera by WIFI while a judge observes. "One question to the plaintiff: Do you want to take credit for this travesty? "

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Del Paso said:

Unfortunately, as a regular former MPB customer, I have noticed that their used gear has become very expensive, sometimes even more than new.
And, if you look at brand-new lenses or cameras from reputed grey sellers...
Yet, a few years ago, MPB Europe was an excellent address. No longer, in my opinion, unless for discontinued gear, like some EF lenses.
Also, it looks like they are selling lots of lenses with water damage, sometimes even with fungus...

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EricN said:

Canon's defense should be to request a representative from Malikkie try to use canonconnect to control the a camera by WIFI while a judge observes. "One question to the plaintiff: Do you want to take credit for this travesty? "

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scyrene said:

Have all the galleries/threads of users' images disappeared? I can't see them anywhere.

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Del Paso said:

Despite all the criticism, even from this forum, it seems the 45 f/1,2 is selling well.
Should I also place an order? I'm already tempted...

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Click said:

The forum has been temporarily closed.

It will change its URL in the near future

New URL will be: canonrumorsforum.com

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Del Paso said:

Unfortunately, as a regular former MPB customer, I have noticed that their used gear has become very expensive, sometimes even more than new.
And, if you look at brand-new lenses or cameras from reputed grey sellers...
Yet, a few years ago, MPB Europe was an excellent address. No longer, in my opinion, unless for discontinued gear, like some EF lenses.
Also, it looks like they are selling lots of lenses with water damage, sometimes even with fungus...

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Toamelicious said:

I'd wait for the first batch to arrive at the customers and the inevitable appearance on the used market.
It's been like that with every lens since I started being interested in canon gear. Everyone pre-orders and about a quarter of those realise very quickly, they don't really need the new stuff and sell it again.
Besides my RF 200-800 every lens I own came through resale sites like mpb and I never spent more than 2/3 of the MSRP for lenses in perfect condition.

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