Canon RF 300-600mm Update…. Again

The crop ratio on the APS-C is 1.6x
@AlanF stated, "The R5ii combo resolves at least as well - in terms of pixels, not pov, the R7 is only 1.4x not 1.6x." Apparently that was lost on you. Since your previous statement mentioned 'better resolving', he was pointing out that the R7 provides 1.4x more pixels on target than the R5II. He was not talking about only the 'crop factor'.

Edit: had this draft started when @Nemorino posted to the same effect.
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alternate lens hoods for RF 100-500 and or 70-200 z

With rare exceptions (such as the original version of the EF 24-70/2.8L), lens hoods for zooms are only maximally effective at the wide end of the zoom range. In terms of what a lens hood is intended for, namely to improve images by reducing flare and increasing contrast, using a shorter hood than the one Canon provides with (or recommends for) a given lens reduces the utility even at the wide end.

I suppose if your only goal is to have some additional physical protection for the front of your lens, using a shorter hood would still provide that.
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BIRD IN FLIGHT ONLY -- share your BIF photos here

Congratulations on excellent shots! Were you tracking them or could you use pre-capture?
Thank You, Alan! I used tracking.
German bird names are often very, very weird.
My favorite is Flußseeschwalbe:eek:
(river-sea-swollow)
So it's "Regen river Plover"
No! The German name of the familiy Charadriidae is "Regenpfeifer" .
In German Lapwings are also Regenpfeifer.
Sames gear:
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Artemis II crew using Nikon D5 and Z9

Remember that Nikon has over half a century's experience in space. They've been providing NASA with space cameras since 1971 during the Apollo program and have been the standard cameras on Apollo (Command Module, not Lunar Module), Apollo/Soyuz, the Shuttle, Skylab and the International Space Station. It's rumored that all the major vendors do submit proposals every time a new camera is called for but fifty years' experience gives Nikon an edge in knowing what is needed and how to build and deliver it.

However, the embarrassing one was that some Sony fans released a fake press release that Sony had been chosen as the new Artemis camera complete with photos of executives, fake quotes and a photo of a Sony camera on a lunar-like background as an April Fools post. It actually got believed by some news sources.
So many lies, boasting and exaggerations by Sony's fanboyz make it hard to recognize an April fools post.
I fully agree on the reasons you mentioned why NASA chose Nikon. Their huge experience with similar projects.
For former missions, the NASA was mostly using gear by Nikon, Hasselblad, Zeiss, Angenieux.
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Artemis II crew using Nikon D5 and Z9

I feel like I missed the boat with canon by going to its mirrorless system . I've been a loyal Canon customer for years and feel like canon is holding me hostage by not allowing third party full frame autofocus lenses like every other manufacture of cameras has done and regretting not purchase and now feel like I should have gone to Nikon when I upgraded to mirrorless and would never again recommend canon to any new photographer now getting started or someone who's looking to upgrade I sold my mirrorless system camera and lenses and that was the time I should have made the move because although I've shown my brand loyalty to canon they have not done the same to its customer loyalty is a two way street canon should have opened up its lenses to third party for its full frame sytem including allowing them to make lens with autofocus but instead looked at it loyal customers as cash cows and not returned the same loyalty to us instead they are beating us up with high prices and no other options and the reason why I recommend other brands now other than Canon particularly Nikon which gives its customers the option of third party and why after years of showing Canon my support and loyalty I'm thinking of making the switch and will never recommend Canon again
Sorry, but that was painful to read with the massive run-on sentence and no paragraphs.
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Artemis II crew using Nikon D5 and Z9

I feel like I missed the boat with canon by going to its mirrorless system . I've been a loyal Canon customer for years and feel like canon is holding me hostage by not allowing third party full frame autofocus lenses like every other manufacture of cameras has done and regretting not purchase and now feel like I should have gone to Nikon when I upgraded to mirrorless and would never again recommend canon to any new photographer now getting started or someone who's looking to upgrade I sold my mirrorless system camera and lenses and that was the time I should have made the move because although I've shown my brand loyalty to canon they have not done the same to its customer loyalty is a two way street canon should have opened up its lenses to third party for its full frame sytem including allowing them to make lens with autofocus but instead looked at it loyal customers as cash cows and not returned the same loyalty to us instead they are beating us up with high prices and no other options and the reason why I recommend other brands now other than Canon particularly Nikon which gives its customers the option of third party and why after years of showing Canon my support and loyalty I'm thinking of making the switch and will never recommend Canon again
You are not the first coming to this forum and in the first post express disappointment about no third party lenses on Canon FF R-system. Just switch.
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Artemis II crew using Nikon D5 and Z9

I feel like I missed the boat with canon by going to its mirrorless system . I've been a loyal Canon customer for years and feel like canon is holding me hostage by not allowing third party full frame autofocus lenses like every other manufacture of cameras has done and regretting not purchase and now feel like I should have gone to Nikon when I upgraded to mirrorless and would never again recommend canon to any new photographer now getting started or someone who's looking to upgrade I sold my mirrorless system camera and lenses and that was the time I should have made the move because although I've shown my brand loyalty to canon they have not done the same to its customer loyalty is a two way street canon should have opened up its lenses to third party for its full frame sytem including allowing them to make lens with autofocus but instead looked at it loyal customers as cash cows and not returned the same loyalty to us instead they are beating us up with high prices and no other options and the reason why I recommend other brands now other than Canon particularly Nikon which gives its customers the option of third party and why after years of showing Canon my support and loyalty I'm thinking of making the switch and will never recommend Canon again
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Canon RF 300-600mm Update…. Again

I've been using the RF 100-500 on an R7 body. The crop factor of the R7 provided an equivalent POV to the 800mm, at 500mm. but is able to also provide 160mm and faster and better resolving.
That's not why I find with our lenses and bodies. My wife takes the R7 and RF 100-500mm and I take the R5ii and the RF 200-800mm out birding so we frequently compare shots. The R5ii combo resolves at least as well - in terms of pixels, not pov, the R7 is only 1.4x not 1.6x. Both are very satisfactory. She finds it more difficult to focus in tricky conditions. I also use the R7+ RF 100-500mm frequently and find the AF is not as good as as the R5ii combination, especially closer. Here are two typical extreme crops from this week at the limits of resolution where you do expect to see differences. The Wheatear is only 490 px high from the R5ii (bottom inage) and 430 px from the R7 (top image). There's little between them.


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The Follow-up to the RF 24-70 F2.8L IS USM Could See More of the World

This rumoured RF 20-70/2.8 L would easily tip me into swapping our my current EF 24-70/2.8 II L as my main / general lens. The extra wide angle of view would be a seriously more versatile lens. I would mate this with the RF 10-20mm f4 L for a super versatile pairing. Mostly for any situaton where I won't need filtration. The EF lenses with the drop in adpater as such a great solution for me. The question is with this RF 20-70/2.8 L, what to pair with it at the long end. The RF 70-200/2.8 LIS Z is a stunning optic, but it's expensive and large. Maybe see what comes from the VCM range, there are rumours of a petite and light RF 70-180mm f2.8 VCM non L.
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Canon RF 300-600mm Update…. Again

Most of my shots when birding are with the RF 200-800mm at 800mm, with occasional zooming out. I found it outresolves the 100-300 + 2xTC when set to 800mm and is at least as sharp at 600mm f/8. So, I will stick with that and to complement it I think I will definitely get an RF 70-200mm f2.8L IS USM Z as it much smaller than the 100-300 and a covers a more useful range at f/2.8 for me. For urban and indoor use, I prefer black, but for nature with the extender white. What a dilemma!
I've been using the RF 100-500 on an R7 body. The crop factor of the R7 provided an equivalent POV to the 800mm, at 500mm. but is able to also provide 160mm and faster and better resolving.
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