I am the proud owner of the RF 24-70 f/2.8L. It’s a great lens and I’m a HUGE fan of it. That said, and not surprisingly given its expense, I would want its successor to have more range on both ends say 20-85? Last fall, I picked up a 24-105 f/4L (a stupendous sale on Canon’s refurb site) and have found the additional reach beneficial for events and “less formal” photographic scenarios. I’m glad that Canon is trying different formulas and look forward to seeing what else, like the 45mm f/1.2 they’ll cook up!

adrian_bacon said:

I wouldn't be surprised in the least if the resolution is 7680x5120, which puts it right at 39MP, and the perfect resolution to provide a 2x oversample of UHD video for the video shooters, effectively doing for 4K what canon did for HD with the C100 having a native 4K sensor downsampled to straight Full HD resolution. If that's that case, then we should expect to see this sensor pop up in multiple video related products, as Canon does like to reuse tech.

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It seems pretty certain that '39MP' means 8K UHD. But I think it raises as many questions as it answers. If it's truly a stacked sensor with 10ms-ish readout, it effectively has the capabilities of the R5C but as a Super35. What does Canon see as the market for an 8K Super35 video camera when they've just introduced the ~$4k C50 that doesn't have 8k? Would they dare position it above the C50? If it's below do they gimp it?? What does it say about the price point of the R7II and how much of that capability do they allow to surface in the R7II? So many possibilities.

the rumored sensor makes a lot more sense if they share it in multiple offerings rather than just a single photo-centric R7II, though, so some form of R7C seems highly likely

m4ndr4ke said:

It seems rumours like this are becoming a tradition with Canon cameras, where often a BSI and stacked sensor ends-up being just non-stacked FSI with fast 12 bit readout.

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yep, the constant challenge with Canon - you know they *can* do it, but you don't know whether they *will*. It still seems entirely possible that Canon will feel that a partially stacked sensor with 13-15ms readout is more than enough to meet their requirements and leaves them the opportunity to go fully stacked in the next revision. But who knows.

CharlesB said:

Does anybody actually think AI is worth it? I don't, for the most part. I'm sure there's some good that can come from it but it seems like a lot of bad stuff. That being said, I don't know all of the uses, so I'm curious of others opinions or knowledge on the matter.

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No, AI has been mostly terrible for me. I remember googling information about the difference between my drone and the previous model and it was telling me that my drone wasn't rumoured to be released for months. Obviously AI had just regurgitated the information from someone's blog post. I can't tell you how many times the information has been incorrect and others have found it simply making up data. However where it's good at is taking a transcript for a meeting and generating action items which has saved me hours at my work. People are starting to use it for recruiting so who knows what sort of biases that will introduce.

Personally I try to stay away from it as much as possible but I will admit that it creates some great memes!

@Canon Rumors as someone with 128GB ram, what the heck are you doing with 256?? lol. I can't think of anything requiring that other than large scale FEA/CFD simulations really.

But yeah, my mega-build from late 2024 would now cost almost 2.5x as much as it did. RAM, GPUs, and m.2 SSDs all have had crazy inflation.

All for worthless generative AI models run by a bunch of companies that don't make a profit and have no remotely plausible path to profit. And we're still pretty far from the bubble popping.

CharlesB said:

Does anybody actually think AI is worth it? I don't, for the most part. I'm sure there's some good that can come from it but it seems like a lot of bad stuff. That being said, I don't know all of the uses, so I'm curious of others opinions or knowledge on the matter.

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For image creation, the core of this forum, absolutelly not. For general old knowledge, expensive energy wise but worth it depending on the reader. Recent stuff, dangerous. Grammar checking, its only real usage that fits the design principles of the technology.

Del Paso said:

For piercing, I strongly recommend an oxygen lance!

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Wow! You're a wikipedia of Danger!

Does anybody actually think AI is worth it? I don't, for the most part. I'm sure there's some good that can come from it but it seems like a lot of bad stuff. That being said, I don't know all of the uses, so I'm curious of others opinions or knowledge on the matter.

I was lucky to be able to buy a computer, new camera, and flash storage before the rising of prices. I wanted to buy new HDD as well, but those will have to and can wait.
For someone starting in 2026 it will be rough. Cameras are small fishes and in comparison our problems are minors, but for someone that enjoy gaming playing in high quality will not be an option anymore.

HeavyPiper said:

I'm surprised that the Peter Iredale is still with us.

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Salt is a preservative . The trees are even more aggressive than the ocean.

Im quite happy with the present RF 24-70mm f2.8L IS USM I see no use case for going wider. What I would like to see is Canon add a RF 65mm f1.4L VCM prime to the f1.4L VCM series

Beautiful shots, Alan.

Following on from @becceric's comment, which of the three shots of the Kestrel do people think is the best? (Taken this morning with the R5ii and RF 200-800mm).

Dragon said:

In that climate, it will be some time before it fully returns to the earth. On the Oregon coast, it would be completely gone in 10 years. We have a very aggressive ecology.

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I'm surprised that the Peter Iredale is still with us.

Looking at portable SSD prices on Amazon, prices for Samsung and SanDisk drives have gone up 60-100% in the past 3 months. However, perhaps because Micron retired the consumer-focused Crucial brand last month, prices for Crucial SSDs have only gone up <10%. A Crucial X10 8 TB SSD is $785, compared to $1135 for the 8 TB SanDisk or $750 for the 4 TB Samsung T7 Shield (their largest capacity). I don't 'need' them right now, but a pair of 8 TB Crucial X10 SSDs will be delivered by Amazon tomorrow because I might need them at some point in the foreseeable future, and I don't see prices coming down any time soon.

mimbu said:

Everyone is affected. The hyperscalers and other large companies are paying huge money for memory too, they just pass the costs along. Apple for example dropped the 512GB config of the Mac Studio Ultra, now the largest you can order is 256GB. Next generation M5 Mac Studios will probably have a price bump and may also be limited to 256GB of memory.

Samsung's memory division has made it clear that their own phone division is facing the same pricing as everyone else. Apple sent top execs to camp out in Seoul to try to negotiate access and pricing, with little apparent success.

The AI bubble popping would likely trigger pricing resets, but with so much of the US equity markets made up of the top AI/tech companies now (and likely to get worse with upcoming IPOs), the end of the AI bubble would bring about other huge problems. We may end up just being stuck with this for a couple of years until more capacity comes online around 2028.

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The whole AI thing is a financial house of cards. Lots of "commitments", but very little cash changing hands. AI profitability is still as much of a dream as a high-speed train in California. Seems almost certain that there will be a crash and, given the amount of money involved, it could be much worse than the dot com bust. For the short term, I lucked out by upgrading all my computers for the Windows 10 EOL. Just made it under the wire before prices started to climb. If the shortage does continue, we may actually see some focus on software efficiency instead of just more and bigger.

Copland said:

I found it interesting that Apple didn’t make its new M5 MacBook Pro more expensive than the M4. Normally, they would have had to raise prices by at least 20–30%, if not even more.

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The base price of the M5 Pro MBP did go up by $200, though. I suspect that if the rumored redesign for the M6 happens, there will be a fairly steep price increase at that point.

Prices have been skyrocketing for about half a year now. Everything currently costs roughly twice as much as it did at the beginning/mid of 2025, whether it's hard drives, CFexpress cards, or SD cards.
Good thing I stocked up in time, but eventually that will run out too. I hope things will return to normal by 2028 at the latest, better 2027...
I found it interesting that Apple didn’t make its new M5 MacBook Pro more expensive than the M4. Normally, they would have had to raise prices by at least 20–30%, if not even more.

roby17269 said:

The big hyperscalers (AWS, Microsoft, Google, possibly including Nvidia, Meta and Apple and Samsung) will be ok because they command large %'s of the market. All the rest will suffer. Camera makers are small bit players in this context, so they will be impacted

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Everyone is affected. The hyperscalers and other large companies are paying huge money for memory too, they just pass the costs along. Apple for example dropped the 512GB config of the Mac Studio Ultra, now the largest you can order is 256GB. Next generation M5 Mac Studios will probably have a price bump and may also be limited to 256GB of memory.

Samsung's memory division has made it clear that their own phone division is facing the same pricing as everyone else. Apple sent top execs to camp out in Seoul to try to negotiate access and pricing, with little apparent success.

The AI bubble popping would likely trigger pricing resets, but with so much of the US equity markets made up of the top AI/tech companies now (and likely to get worse with upcoming IPOs), the end of the AI bubble would bring about other huge problems. We may end up just being stuck with this for a couple of years until more capacity comes online around 2028.

This is different but it reminds me of COVID: procuring blades for data centers was an issue during COVID due to supply chain disruptions and unless you were a protected business (i.e. health care or defense) you had to wait or to pay more.

Not only computers and memory cards, but also cars, drones, home appliances, phones are all full of chips and memory. All will be affected.
We may see a return of "dumb" appliances and less gizmos in cars. I have already tried and configuring a desktop the way I like it is becoming prohibitively expensive.
There are all sorts of side effects to this. Taiwan may become more appetizing to China given how much of worldwide chip production is there....

So much money has been pumped in AI and in the infrastructure for AI that they have to keep investing in it otherwise it will all unravel and a lot of companies will lose a lot of money. So this is going to go on for a while, at least until AI shows some real return to those investments.

The big hyperscalers (AWS, Microsoft, Google, possibly including Nvidia, Meta and Apple and Samsung) will be ok because they command large %'s of the market. All the rest will suffer. Camera makers are small bit players in this context, so they will be impacted

becceric said:

Maybe I'll pierce the center of a body cap, transforming a 5D IV into a pinhole camera, thus skipping a UV filter!

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For piercing, I strongly recommend an oxygen lance!

It seems rumours like this are becoming a tradition with Canon cameras, where often a BSI and stacked sensor ends-up being just non-stacked FSI with fast 12 bit readout.

Malm said:

That's what I worry a bit: extended zoom-range on the cost of image quality. But first we need a real lens. And than it's depending on the individual preferences. I'm happy with a fast UWA around 14mm, the 24-70/2,8 and a 70-200 - which can be slow - , but there are so many other preferences ....

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Exactly my light equipment choice (14, 24-70, 70-200 f/4).
Presently (waiting for the 20-70...), it's 15-35, 70-200 and 50.

danfaz said:

This is an abandoned truck I photographed over a decade ago. Since then, it’s been further vandalized and the hood has been removed. What I find fascinating is how it’s literally becoming part of the earth.
I decided to edit it again with today's tools, as it was a very rough shot before.

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In that climate, it will be some time before it fully returns to the earth. On the Oregon coast, it would be completely gone in 10 years. We have a very aggressive ecology.

These costs will seep through everything and just make life more expensive. Prices never come down so.... enjoy...?

Canon Rumors said:

Thanks for the input, it's worse than I thought it was and going to be. I hadn't thought about the impact to employment.

I'm currently negotiating paying for hosting 2 years up front. Even electricity is going to go up and that's a big cost. For those that don't know, you pay for CPU and GPU wattage use. I changed processors recently to cut that by half. You can go Ampere arm, but the processors cost double, so the offset in costs is 0.

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Yeah, sh-t's going crazy, and we're just at the start.