Show your Bird Portraits

Learned something new today. Dropped the image in the Cornell Merlin app with my location and got Great Blue Heron, changed the location to Cambridge, England (just a guess) and got Grey Heron. The regions don't overlap, but the birds are similar. GBH is a larger bird, has a longer, S shaped neck when not extended, and rufous thigh/wrist colors ver when sus whiter on the GH. That can be hard to tell from an image.
Actually, that is a way how it is supposed to work. Find distinguishing features in an image, dérive list of possible birds, look at location, trim the list, look at time of year, trim further... Rearrange the list by "merit function" and display candidate(s). You do not need the year - try entering date in the future, as long as location and date match established probability of bird it will be considered. If you do not select the location list is longer, but still trimmed to about 4-5 suggestions. Sometimes it is scary how accurate it can be. But, it is also often entertaining in its misses.
My favorite is "Explore" functionality for new location, for my upcoming trips. Avoids expecting grey herons where great blue live ;)
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Canon EOS R6 Mark III & RF 45 F1.2 STM November 6

Welcome back Michael :)
What cheaper model has been released since the RP with the RP's spec sheet?
I didn't state that. "The RP is a mirrorless 6Dii and still being sold."
I was pointing out that Canon is happy to leave the RP in their marketing lineup long after the R/R6 etc have disappeared even though it is considered older tech with essentially the same sensor from the 6Dii. I am happy for Canon to leave the RP in their lineup and I bought one as my backup body. Kudos to Canon for selling the cheapest full frame body.
The EOS R was cheaper than the R6 and R5 by the time the R6 & R5 came out, not more expensive.
Again, I didn't state that the R was cheaper or more expensive
"The EOS R was selling for a long time after the R6/R5 were released."
How was I incorrect in my actual comment?
My point was that Canon was happy to leave the R (and the 5Div) in their lineup for a long time after the R5/R6 was released as a data point supporting my original suggestion that Canon should leave the R5 in their lineup for some time to come.
But if the R6 comes with a 30+ MP sensor for around the same price as the R5 is currently commanding on the NEW market, the R5 will disappear from authorized Canon dealers' shelves.
Maybe, maybe not.
The R5 still has features that the R6iii can't or won't have. We won't know for sure until the R6iii is released. I appreciate the extra pixels in the R5 over my previous 5Div's 30mp. Perhaps others will too. Canon has amortised their R5 R&D costs so there will be higher unit profit on it vs a newer body. Should users complain if we have more choice??
Canon is still selling the R5 in parallel with the R5ii even though it is more than a year after the latter's release.
If an older, higher end model is selling new for less than the newer mid-tier product with the same basic capabilities, then dealers will continue to stock the older model as long as Canon will let them because it's easier to sell an older model with the same capabilities if it's cheaper than the newer model.
If an older, higher end model is selling new for more than the newer mid-tier product with the same basic capabilities, then dealers will not continue to stock the older model because it's very hard to sell an older model when there's a newer model on their shelves that can do the same thing and is priced lower. They'll return those units to Canon for credit. Canon will then use them for parts sources for the next seven years or so until they drop that model from official support.
I agree that the price will either be higher or lower... why is that a problem for users? Dealers won't care as long as they sell stuff.
It is up to Canon to decide what is in their lineup and at what price they sell to dealers (and marketing rebates)
If users want one and one dealer doesn't have it then they will buy from another.
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Show your Bird Portraits

Had some sunshine today, so tried the Vivitar 600mm Solid Cat on the R7. Still pretty dark and much easier to focus on the R5 than the R7. 23ft MFD is not really practical for hummers and the lens tends to soften a bit below about 50 ft, but did get a few decent shots. Overall it is one of the sharper Cats if you hit focus. DOF is very thin. Will be best on the R5 or R8.


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Compact Camera Revival: Where is it?

I assume the Sony RX1R series hasn't been mentioned for the same reasons that the Fujifilm X100 and Ricoh series cameras were put in a different category from the compact cameras Richard was focusing on, and of course the Sony is far more expensive again. I have to say though I'd quite like the Sony as a small camera if it wasn't for the IMHO crazy price.
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Everything We’ve Been Told About The Canon EOS R7 Mark II

Just don't make it a lot heavier or more expensive. Right now the R7 is one of the best APS-C mirrorless cameras, particularly since they opened up the RF-S mount a year ago, giving it more parity with Sony and Fujifilm. Nikon puts IBIS only in their full-frame models, making the APS-C Sigmas - all non-stabilized - not as viable. (I'm not familiar with Sony or Fujifilm's cameras.) It would be a shame for Canon to join Nikon in denying us hobbyists the kind of semi-pro camera the R7 represents by making it heavy and expensive.
I can't disagree, but I think that the R10 moniker should have been used for the present day R7, as it's more of an xxD type body, and save the single digit for something more comparable to it's semi-pro full frame brethren. I agree that we do NOT want Canon to go the route of Nikon and squeeze the crop bodies out of the top half of the lineup.
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Everything We’ve Been Told About The Canon EOS R7 Mark II

I'm very hopeful that the R7 MkII does mirror the body style and layout of the R6 MKII and the other higher end bodies. The layout and design of the R7 along with the rolling shutter has kept me away from adding one. Shooting with it was awkward, the layout was uncomfortable as well as the size of the body to small. Muscle memory from my other R bodies simply caused this body to be ineffective. The nested joystick on the R7 in my opinion was a PITA.

I know that some may say it falls on me but I would respectfully disagree. Here's a crazy idea, standardize the buttons functionality across the R lineup so that people that use the gear can work across different bodies without having to learn a different layout. If rumors are true regarding the R7 MkII I will finally get to add the APS-C I wanted to my gear, if the layout remains the same and it's still has challenges with excessive rolling shutter I'll stick with what I own.
Or at least standardize it across the single-digit R series. I would expect the 1-series to be a little different because it IS a different animal. It's not likely that someone will be carrying their R1 on one shoulder and an R7 on the other (though it could happen, I guess). I did some photography stuff at some events in DC several years ago - I carried a 5D Mk xxx on one shoulder with a 24-70, and a 7D II with the 70-200 on the other. That gave me a very wide range of focal lengths for capturing people's signs and actions at the event, and sometimes even with some nice DC buildings in the background. So carrying 2 cameras that operate similarly is pretty useful at times.
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Compact Camera Revival: Where is it?

The problem is in that camera technology has to a large degree plateaued which is evident by all the new models being just remakes which in some instances even removes features. I think it is pretty much impossible to be innovative in that space without adding bigger batteries which them would remove most of the charm.
Examples being the Panasonic DMC-TZ99 which in reality is just a TZ95 from 2019 with some meaningless new features such as an USB-C port etc. Canon's latest IXUS was just a remake as well where they removed features from the previous model released close to a decade ago.
The absolute worst example though is Leica which last year released the D-LUX 8 which is priced at $2k and is just another D-Lux 7 with better EVF and screen resolution and a new button layout. The real crime in all of this is that the D-LUX 8 just like the D-Lux 7 before it are rebadged Panasonic LX100MK2s which can be found for substantially less.. a camera released all the way back in 2018. Heck Leica even jacked up the price at one point due to tariff speculations making it even more costly.
Furthermore all the compact micro four thirds cameras are discontinued making some models fetch high prices on the used market. It is not like the manufacturers are not aware of this. If they could they would have made them already, the problem lies in what consumers expect from such a camera and from a technological standpoint it is impossible. The only thing they can do at this point is do remakes.
The way I see it for anything new and exciting to happen in the compact camera space we will need either new battery technology or more efficient sensors both of which seems like pipe dreams at this point in time.
So you don't believe that Leica's optical experts lovingly hand-polish each lens surface, after having fully disassembled the camera + lens ?
And replace every cheap Panasonic plastic part with German-engineered carbon reinforced zero tolerance NASA certified titanium elements? Eventually, they sell the D-LUX (name is program!) at a huge loss just to make the world's most demanding customers happy. How dare you criticise such a selfless behaviour? :mad:
It's true, I saw and heard it on FOX News.
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Compact Camera Revival: Where is it?

The problem is in that camera technology has to a large degree plateaued which is evident by all the new models being just remakes which in some instances even removes features. I think it is pretty much impossible to be innovative in that space without adding bigger batteries which them would remove most of the charm.
Examples being the Panasonic DMC-TZ99 which in reality is just a TZ95 from 2019 with some meaningless new features such as an USB-C port etc. Canon's latest IXUS was just a remake as well where they removed features from the previous model released close to a decade ago.
The absolute worst example though is Leica which last year released the D-LUX 8 which is priced at $2k and is just another D-Lux 7 with better EVF and screen resolution and a new button layout. The real crime in all of this is that the D-LUX 8 just like the D-Lux 7 before it are rebadged Panasonic LX100MK2s which can be found for substantially less.. a camera released all the way back in 2018. Heck Leica even jacked up the price at one point due to tariff speculations making it even more costly.
Furthermore all the compact micro four thirds cameras are discontinued making some models fetch high prices on the used market. It is not like the manufacturers are not aware of this. If they could they would have made them already, the problem lies in what consumers expect from such a camera and from a technological standpoint it is impossible. The only thing they can do at this point is do remakes.
The way I see it for anything new and exciting to happen in the compact camera space we will need either new battery technology or more efficient sensors both of which seems like pipe dreams at this point in time.
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The Canon EOS R7 Mark II May Be a Big Departure From the Original

What you are seeing there is Electronic Shutter distortion due to the slow sensor read out. The R7's readout is suprisingly poor at nearly 30ms. The R6ii and R5 come in at around 15ms and the 1st Curtain shutter is around 3ms. The stacked sensor in the R3 and R5ii come in around 5-6ms. With the R1 being Canon's fastest at sub 3ms.
If you use the R7's 1st curtain shutter you will not see any of the shutter / sensor readout disortion but you will only have 15fps. If the R7ii has a stacked sensor design, then we can expect a huge reduction in sensor read out speed compared to the very poor 30ms of the current R7.
Some people find that the R7 is better suited to 15 fps because the AF can struggle to keep up with the full ES 30 fps, epecially in low light situations.
It should be noted that the sensor in the R7 is derived from/almost the same as in the EOS M6 Mk II, which debuted in 2019. The 90D is also from that era, and has/had the 32.5 mpx sensor. So it's not the absolute latest technology. It came in an era where mechanical shutters were the rule rather than the exception. I think it was refined a little for the R7, but the sensor's basic build is the same.

Anyway, we're due for a new one, hopefully with the same or better high-ISO noise performance (since Canon loves these smaller aperture lenses) along with much brisker readout speeds.
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The Canon EOS R7 Mark II May Be a Big Departure From the Original

There has been a lot of talk that the R7II will not have a mechanical shutter... only an electronic shutter. In order to accomplish that, Canon MUST vastly improve sensor readout speed to minimize rolling shutter issues. A stacked sensor is one way to do that.
So it makes sense that the R7II would have a stacked sensor. Especially since it would also improve auto focus performance, which is another area where the original R7 comes up a bit short.
The form factor change SHOULD BE nothing more than adopting the proven control layout of other Canon cameras like the R5II etc.
No, I don't believe Canon will give the R7II an R1 or R3 style body, with built-in battery grip. At least, I certainly hope not! But they do need to make the R7II compatible with a battery grip. Ideally would be it sharing the same grip(s) used by the full frame models. That is probably why the body will be slightly larger... although the original R7's footprint was very close to that of the R5's. There was just a few millimeters difference, which is why it was so sad the original R7 couldn't be fitted with a BG-R10.
Likely a truly improved R7II will cost more than the original... perhaps in the $1800 to $2100 US range. But keep in mind that the original 7D sold initially for $1700 and the 7DII for $1800... in 2009 and 2014 respectively! Both of those sold like hot cakes! It's baffling why Canon felt the need to cheapen the R7 and give it an introductory price of $1500 in 2022. Between 2014 and 2022 inflation was almost 24%... so theoretically the market shiould have welcomed a modernized, mirrorless 7DII that cost over $2000. Instead Canon went the other direction.
While there was a lot to like about the original R7... however there also were a lot of disappointments. Let's hope Canon has been paying attention customer comments about the R7 and R7II!
The R7 has the same sensor as the EOS 90D and the EOS M6 Mk II. Re-using that sensor reduced development time and costs. The sensor performance may be the reason why the R7 went “downmarket” compared to the 7D Mk II.
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The Canon EOS R7 Mark II May Be a Big Departure From the Original

There has been a lot of talk that the R7II will not have a mechanical shutter... only an electronic shutter. In order to accomplish that, Canon MUST vastly improve sensor readout speed to minimize rolling shutter issues. A stacked sensor is one way to do that.
So it makes sense that the R7II would have a stacked sensor. Especially since it would also improve auto focus performance, which is another area where the original R7 comes up a bit short.
The form factor change SHOULD BE nothing more than adopting the proven control layout of other Canon cameras like the R5II etc.
No, I don't believe Canon will give the R7II an R1 or R3 style body, with built-in battery grip. At least, I certainly hope not! But they do need to make the R7II compatible with a battery grip. Ideally would be it sharing the same grip(s) used by the full frame models. That is probably why the body will be slightly larger... although the original R7's footprint was very close to that of the R5's. There was just a few millimeters difference, which is why it was so sad the original R7 couldn't be fitted with a BG-R10.
Likely a truly improved R7II will cost more than the original... perhaps in the $1800 to $2100 US range. But keep in mind that the original 7D sold initially for $1700 and the 7DII for $1800... in 2009 and 2014 respectively! Both of those sold like hot cakes! It's baffling why Canon felt the need to cheapen the R7 and give it an introductory price of $1500 in 2022. Between 2014 and 2022 inflation was almost 24%... so theoretically the market shiould have welcomed a modernized, mirrorless 7DII that cost over $2000. Instead Canon went the other direction.
While there was a lot to like about the original R7... however there also were a lot of disappointments. Let's hope Canon has been paying attention customer comments about the R7 and R7II!
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The Canon EOS R7 Mark II May Be a Big Departure From the Original

I hope it's a big departure....I hate the R7 about as much as Richard hates the R100. I used it less than 20 times and never picked it up again. The shutter slap alone was enough to put me off. Set off local earthquake sensors.
If your count means the number of times you took it on a shoot, then my count may be less than yours. Shutter slap, shutter noise (machine-gun level), almost non-existent buffer, poor (compared to R5 and above) AF performance, all turned me off. Bigger size is a plus along with CFe support. 30fps in raw with a decent (strong) buffer is fine with me, but it seems that 40fps is the new norm for action camera bodies.
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