so are we now thinking the R7ii isn't in production at all? I am actively in the market, been 15 years since my last camera purchase but my main focus is on my children with youth sports. If an R7ii isn't coming, I don't love the idea of buying an R7 that is 3+ years old now. Should I bump up to the R6III? or do you still think the R7ii is this summer?

The 20-50mm PZ will be pretty awesome if the power zoom function does not require an external motor (like it does on the 24-105mm f2.8 Z. That's probably the difference between the PZ and Z naming.

But I would assume the lens would have to have an internal zoom, which is also great. While I would have loved an f2.8, if it has internal zoom with a (GREAT) range of 20-50mm, with IS, is around 600-grams, and has the PZ functionality built into the lens (and doesn't need the bulky external motor), then it's a huge win and instant buy for me.

LCDVS00 said:

R6V means it will have IBIS？

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maybe not. R5C didnt. but probably means LP-E6 battery and dual card slots.

Chig said:

What a bargain ! Will it work with the new CINE-SERVO 50-1000mm T5.0-8.9 ?
For only just over $100K I'll be able to shoot video of kiwi and owls in the dark without any flash
I need to start buying those Powerball tickets

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In Canon's official video they pair it with the new 40-1200(?)! Your dreams can come true !

InternalRevenue said:

Will that “L” mean a $1200+ price tag? I assume the “R6” moniker will come with a premium as well; I was hoping for a more S9/R8 class body price, hopefully it’s not much more than the ZR at least.

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Hard to see a 20-50/4 L PZ coming in much if any less expensive than the 14-35/4 L which currently lists at $1499. Same 2.5x zoom range, and while 20 on the wide end is easier to achieve than 14, you trade that for PZ. So, I'd guess $1299 at a minimum, $1499 certainly possible. In the R8V iteration of the rumor I'd been assuming that it would be an STM level of quality putting it in the 899/999 range. I guess not a huge delta in the overall scale of things, but add in the R6 premium and you're probably looking at a $3k+ kit price rather than $2k- for an R8/STM level kit.

A retro camera might be my only chance to get a Canon EOS R camera with a tilting screen. It would make my day if there is a solid leak regarding that. I am unreasonably mad at the fully articulating screens. The screen on a 5D original without live view is even less infuriating.

Zahnete said:

My solution to this problem was to switch to the Sony A1 II.

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7 posts in 2 years, each one complaining about Canon and your switching to Sony. Why do you bother to read a forum like this?

dwkdnvr said:

An L with PZ? I’d call that a bit unexpected (the L part, that is)

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Will that “L” mean a $1200+ price tag? I assume the “R6” moniker will come with a premium as well; I was hoping for a more S9/R8 class body price, hopefully it’s not much more than the ZR at least.

Might also work on the R5ii
Could assist with avoiding underwater particulate or scratches on dome etc

Canon Rumors said:

Small update. RF 20-50mm F4 L IS PZ

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An L with PZ? I’d call that a bit unexpected (the L part, that is)

A R6V is WAY more exciting than an R8V.

I would assume you'll lose the top handle/XLRs, timecode port (which would be a mistake), and some active cooling... But HOPEFULLY it has IBIS. I use my R6 III for video more than my C50 strictly because I like to handhold or SAKK hold my non-IS lenses (Zeiss Otus). But I don't love the R6 III for video because of the crappy button layout.

If this camera doesn't have IBIS, I don't really understand the point of its existence...

Maximilian said:

Same thought here!
The RP->R8 line is a great FF entry line from Canon.
I would call it hijack, if Canon would turn this line into a retro line.
Make an R8 Mk II as a real successor of the R8, use the guts of it as the internals for a retro RE-1.
And everybody could chose and everybody would be fine!

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Previous post suggested it would come in two versions, retro being optional.
I think that would make sense, let's hope it will be the case.

I was absolutely excited about the R8 V, now I'm even more excited!
Crying so much for a ff compact, I need to buy one even just for not being a pssy. I really hope the price will be good.

Now I want 28/1.8 or 28/2 non-L, good performing lens to couple with the R6 V. Yes, I know , there's the 28/2.8 pancake is great, I have it, but it's just not enough. I want at least f/2 and a bit better AF.
Then I need something like Sony's 50-150/2 or I could even do with 50-100/2 on R5m2. This 2cam setup would cover event, weddings, street, travel. Optionally I would also take the 100-500 or the coming 300-600.
If there was also a 150/2 macro....
All my dreams in a nutshell.

Although not for myself but I'm also excited about the R8m2. I'm happy for the R8 line in general, I find it important to have a really affordable ff option.
Many ppl are coming for advice, some new into photography, some are trying to upgrade from all kinds of cameras, even 40D.
I don't like to recommend aps-c stuff but the R6 is still pretty expensive and unnecessary for most.

ISv said:

My "explanations" are nothing more than suggestions: "explaining" birds by human behavior... I don't really know how to call it.

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No matter what you call it, you're really appreciated. Thank you, ISv.

SnowMiku said:

Aside from the retro look R8 II, what realistic upgrades would it have over the original without being too close to the R6 III? The R6 III sensor, maybe IBIS, higher res LCD and EVF, updated AF algorithm, a joystick would be nice since the R10 has one and I don't think that's asking too much. It would also be nice if the 4 way buttons at the back would have a shortcut to AF, Drive, WB, Metering like the entry level DSLRs.

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Some things the R6 will always have extra over the R8 that in my opinion is enough to separate the two:

- bigger body with different ergonomics.
- 2 card slots
- big wheel on the back
- bigger battery
- better heat management, longer recording times
- weather sealing (i hope the R8 will get it too one day)

Who needs R7ii when we have R100...

LCDVS00 said:

R6V means it will have IBIS？

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I'm not a video expert but IBIS in a video camera can make the video bounce around, even if it's not enabled. The preferred method is to use a gimbal or tripod. I prefer a tripod.

Canon Rumors said:

We’re Getting an EOS R6 V, not an EOS R8 V​

See full article...

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It feels like someone is yanking your chain. An R6 V makes even less sense than and R8 V.

Typical Canon Move hm?! We have a C50 and a R6III… there are some thinks Canon has not implemented now, which other have! Shutter Angle, tilting and flipping screen like Sony and Nikon… damn Canon! I Hope the R7II finally has it!

Not understandable move for me…

A real small full frame cinematic camera would be awesome! With a R3 sensor! (Smaller then the C50, more like a 50V)

Aside from the retro look R8 II, what realistic upgrades would it have over the original without being too close to the R6 III? The R6 III sensor, maybe IBIS, higher res LCD and EVF, updated AF algorithm, a joystick would be nice since the R10 has one and I don't think that's asking too much. It would also be nice if the 4 way buttons at the back would have a shortcut to AF, Drive, WB, Metering like the entry level DSLRs.

R6V means it will have IBIS？

dwkdnvr said:

Well, to be a bit fair to the reviewers the 18-40 wasn't available for the initial release and reviews, and if the only small lens

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It was not just a small lens.
It was a fixed aperture f/8 manual focus lens.
Plus, it overheated like crazy before firmware updates.
It is like Panasonic saw how well the R5 sold and thought that was the reason.

Click said:

It's like MMA. I really like your photos and explanations.

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My "explanations" are nothing more than suggestions: "explaining" birds by human behavior... I don't really know how to call it.

Cariboucoach said:

A quick shot in Biscayne National Park in Florida. I went with only a 24-70mm on my trip, not wanting to fly with multiple lenses. I may look into getting the 24-240mm for my next trip to Ireland so I won't have to crop as much.View attachment 228982View attachment 228983.

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Nice. I have found the 24-240 to be a very decent lens. It has quite a bit of CA in the periphery at 24 and 240, but very clean from around 35 to 200 and it has good detail over the whole range.

It's like MMA. I really like your photos and explanations.