Is there a reason why the R6 series does not have the rubber grip material on the front left of the body? As a far as I know the R6 series is the only one missing it.

Maximilian said:

Guys, please don't expect wonders from this old and simple optical design basis. Canon hasn't found the philosopher's stone in optical designs.
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And from what I've heard the Sigmas has a busy and not so creamy bokeh.

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One can only hope...let's see what's coming with the various reviews and then I'll decide (considering that I want it better or on par with the 50 Art, but I own the 40 Art...so I'm pretty picky about wide open sharpness)

My interest is pure sharpness, AF absolute accuracy, especially in low light (and decent speed, but accuracy comes first), preferably well controlled flare (I don't mind few small ghosts, but contrast has to remain impeccable), close-up image sharpness not falling apart, and light gathering/transmission, which is something, unfortunately, very rarely tested by the reviewers; I'm not interested in buying this lens just for the sake of being f1.2 if the lens is actually closer to T1.8

Bokeh quality, frankly I couldn't care less, can be busy, with horrible onion rings and with cats-eye right in the middle of the frame, and I wouldn't even blink

rombe3jr said:

This R6 Mark III forum is by far the most popular on Canon Rumors. Well over 500 comments and climbing each day.

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I may be wrong but I think that CR previously didn't use one forum thread for all related articles. I'm not saying it's wrong, just saying that that can be the reason why this one got the most comments whereas previously it was spread among more articles (?)

If it is on par with the EF 1.2 50 I understand Canon's move: They want to profit from this lens category instead of supporting the 2nd lens market with these old EF systems which sell for ~900 bucks!

SnowMiku said:

For non IS lenses I use a shutter speed double the focal length I'm using, so for a non IS 50mm I'd shoot at 1/100sec or faster, it works for me every time. If you can hold your camera more steady then me then you can try using 1/60sec for a 50mm lens.

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While I tend to use the old rule shutter speed roughly equal focal length I have seen that this doesn't apply to modern digital cameras anymore. These are more in the medium format category when it comes to resolution and I think your rule is much better. And it works for "unsteady days"

Nemorino said:

pale clouded yellow
R5m2 + RF200-800 + 1.4TC
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It looks like the female is chasing the male...

RaPhoto said:

Some backyard Red-tailed Hawk photos at ~50m in a cottonwood tree. R5mkii and RF200-800mm.

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Great shots!

AlanF said:

Blackheaded Gull (R5ii/200-800mm).

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I like the second too.. But it's not in par with the great first one!

Click said:

Lovely series, ISv.

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Thanks Click!

I love the compact size and if the weight and price specs are correct it'll sell in dozens. The lens looks quite similar to the RF 35/24mm F1.8. I don´t expect it to have a .5 macro feature, so hopefully the AF motor is faster. If the center is sharp and the bokeh renders nicely, it shouldn't be any issue if the corners are a bit softer.

For me to swap the 50mm VCM it would have to check all boxes, but especially the AF speed. If not, I´m sticking with the VCM.

roby17269 said:

I guess I am confused by the parallels you are making?
And I guess Canon's numbering patterns do not help...

But to me the 6 lineage would be: 6D -> 6D II -> RP -> R8...
While the 5 lineage has remained more or less linear (the R is a bit of an outlier), the 6 lineage seems to have split into 8 and new 6 (R6 -> R6 II -> R6 III) that slots between the 8 and the 5.

By the way, I sympathize with your some of your considerations, being myself a non-pro prosumer who likes pro features

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Hello! My thinking is this:

At the advent of the R6 / R5 there was no other R camera beyond the R and RP. RP clearly is a 6D2 successor, but I felt that the mantle moved to the R6 when it arrived and the RP simply... remained. So, in my mind, when July 9, 2020 came around the R6 was the natural successor because it had the number 6 and was priced below the R5. It cost more, yes, but so did everything Canon released around that time.

Fast forward to 2025 and I'd agree with your thinking -- or, at least, I wouldn't disagree in many conversation spaces. There's probably an argument that the R8 also exists to placate those who used to buy the x0D series as well. Maybe it does double duty?

Having owned the 80D (well, it was my wife's and now my son's), I felt it was a fun, geeky, and relatively affordable alternative to the much more expensive full frames: it gave the "feel" of an "upscale camera" as seen in the hands of the well-heeled out on holiday, like that stranger who steps onto a float plane in Alaska with their 5Dx amidst the sea of people clutching their Best Buy bodies. Canon kind of lost that feel with the R transition, I think, although cameras like the R8 are probably their attempt to at least slot in a price equivalent. I don't think the R8 spiritually captures what was happening, but it sits at a good price point in the catalog. They'd do well, I feel, to make a mini R5 body in crop form and re-introduce the X0D series as an X0R line -- and that's where the new video functionality they've been pushing for the new gen would fit very, very comfortably for people like my kiddo and his friends. But I agree, it also fills that 6D character as well -- competent, trade-offs, but serves. Someone mentioned earlier here that the R6 is kind of the 5D of yesteryear and the R5 is something new (or maybe the new 5DS/R?), in which case the R8 is now definitely the 6D equivalent.

I'll say this, though, because it's probably not obvious from my limited chatter here: I've had the privilege since 2005 to use a multitude of Canon's digital bodies -- either through ownership or via family and friends. I think they're all great for their time and serve a need or scratch an itch in one way or the other. They all take great photos when used well. I wouldn't turn down the chance to play with any! 600mm of big glass on a Rebel is so much fun, especially if you bring it along with a pal and pretend it's your serious body for the day. (And the memories it captures today are just as good as when it first hit my bag.)

And yes, the R6 captured a special place in my heart. Like the Rebel and my Mac 512ke, I'll probably never part with it even though I eventually will move forward with the times.

I’m interested. The 50mm 1.8 always feels just a wee bit too tight to me, and there’s nothing wrong with a faster max aperture. Especially not these days when even “cheap” lenses are sharp wide-open.

SnowMiku said:

Could this possibly be a replacement for the Canon EF-M 32mm f/1.4 STM?

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I think it wont be. ASPC lens always need a higher resolution.

I hope this means the R10 II would go a bit more upmarket as well with the R7 battery, similar size to the 90D, and no IBIS to cut down on costs.

Could this possibly be a replacement for the Canon EF-M 32mm f/1.4 STM?

SorenS said:

How come Canon don't do a RF 50 mm with IS!?

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For non IS lenses I use a shutter speed double the focal length I'm using, so for a non IS 50mm I'd shoot at 1/100sec or faster, it works for me every time. If you can hold your camera more steady then me then you can try using 1/60sec for a 50mm lens.

dcm said:

Learned something new today. Dropped the image in the Cornell Merlin app with my location and got Great Blue Heron, changed the location to Cambridge, England (just a guess) and got Grey Heron. The regions don't overlap, but the birds are similar. GBH is a larger bird, has a longer, S shaped neck when not extended, and rufous thigh/wrist colors ver when sus whiter on the GH. That can be hard to tell from an image.

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Actually, that is a way how it is supposed to work. Find distinguishing features in an image, dérive list of possible birds, look at location, trim the list, look at time of year, trim further... Rearrange the list by "merit function" and display candidate(s). You do not need the year - try entering date in the future, as long as location and date match established probability of bird it will be considered. If you do not select the location list is longer, but still trimmed to about 4-5 suggestions. Sometimes it is scary how accurate it can be. But, it is also often entertaining in its misses.
My favorite is "Explore" functionality for new location, for my upcoming trips. Avoids expecting grey herons where great blue live

Welcome back Michael

Michael Clark said:

What cheaper model has been released since the RP with the RP's spec sheet?

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I didn't state that. "The RP is a mirrorless 6Dii and still being sold."
I was pointing out that Canon is happy to leave the RP in their marketing lineup long after the R/R6 etc have disappeared even though it is considered older tech with essentially the same sensor from the 6Dii. I am happy for Canon to leave the RP in their lineup and I bought one as my backup body. Kudos to Canon for selling the cheapest full frame body.

Michael Clark said:

The EOS R was cheaper than the R6 and R5 by the time the R6 & R5 came out, not more expensive.

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Again, I didn't state that the R was cheaper or more expensive
"The EOS R was selling for a long time after the R6/R5 were released."
How was I incorrect in my actual comment?
My point was that Canon was happy to leave the R (and the 5Div) in their lineup for a long time after the R5/R6 was released as a data point supporting my original suggestion that Canon should leave the R5 in their lineup for some time to come.

Michael Clark said:

But if the R6 comes with a 30+ MP sensor for around the same price as the R5 is currently commanding on the NEW market, the R5 will disappear from authorized Canon dealers' shelves.

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Maybe, maybe not.
The R5 still has features that the R6iii can't or won't have. We won't know for sure until the R6iii is released. I appreciate the extra pixels in the R5 over my previous 5Div's 30mp. Perhaps others will too. Canon has amortised their R5 R&D costs so there will be higher unit profit on it vs a newer body. Should users complain if we have more choice??
Canon is still selling the R5 in parallel with the R5ii even though it is more than a year after the latter's release.

Michael Clark said:

If an older, higher end model is selling new for less than the newer mid-tier product with the same basic capabilities, then dealers will continue to stock the older model as long as Canon will let them because it's easier to sell an older model with the same capabilities if it's cheaper than the newer model.
If an older, higher end model is selling new for more than the newer mid-tier product with the same basic capabilities, then dealers will not continue to stock the older model because it's very hard to sell an older model when there's a newer model on their shelves that can do the same thing and is priced lower. They'll return those units to Canon for credit. Canon will then use them for parts sources for the next seven years or so until they drop that model from official support.

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I agree that the price will either be higher or lower... why is that a problem for users? Dealers won't care as long as they sell stuff.
It is up to Canon to decide what is in their lineup and at what price they sell to dealers (and marketing rebates)
If users want one and one dealer doesn't have it then they will buy from another.

SorenS said:

How come Canon don't do a RF 50 mm with IS!?

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wide angle helped by body IBIS (if the body has it) and longer focal length with IS. Combined for zooms. there are exceptions of course eg my RF14-35/4

Juicy, but I'm waiting from Chris Frost's word, if it's any good (aka AT LEAST on par with Sigma 50 Art at 1.4), it's probably instant buy

RF lenses keep reminding me of the FD mount. Mainly size and focal lengths. This reminds of when there were both regular and L series FDn 50mm 1.2 lenses. Or the FL 58mm 1.2. All of these were great lenses too.

Eloniel said:

And I'm sure that if Sony release one trinity of f2.0 zoom Canon will have no other choice than release one too.

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Not every lens is replicated across each manufacturer's lineup.

SorenS said:

How come Canon don't do a RF 50 mm with IS!?

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Very few manufacturers make these. I think Sony has a 50mm f/1.8 OSS and Tamron has a 45mm f/1.8 VC, but that's it. I think the market isn't there.