Agreed. I am dubious of price points being used in this fashion…price is a completely subjective metric and does not in any way speak to technical achievement or generational improvement

Exploreshootshare said:

If the Nikon Z5iii gets the nod over the Canon R6iii because of ones favors "value for money" over "overall specs with all the whistles and bells" that premise should be applied to lenses as well. In that case, the 45mm F1.2 should be favored over the Sony 50-150mm f/2 GM. Don't get me wrong, the Sony lens is absolutely great, but I just don't get why in one case "value for money instead of overall specs" makes the decision and in the other category it is the opposite.

The 45mm F1.2 brought together two things that I´ve never seen put together: F1.2 and cheap (or at least affordable). That imo is an absolute game-changer and easily the best "value for money" this year concerning lenses.

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Canon Rumors said:

Up until a few years ago, there was a service center in Michigan, USA that could rebuild focus motors for both the EF 50mm f/1.0L USM and EF 200mm f/1.8L USM. It wasn't cheap and it wasn't quick.

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Interesting, I didn't know that was still possible so recently. What happened to that business?

rbr said:

A lot more than buyers for a $20k+ 1200mm lens, yet Canon makes and sells that.

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Sorry, I should have been more explicit and/or clear. It’s not really about the absolute number, it’s about return on investment and profitability. Canon would need to sell enough units at a price the market will bear for the feature set, with a sufficient margin for the product to cover development costs and become profitable in a desired time frame.

The margin on a 1200mm f/8 lens is much higher than one could be on a high-end APS-C body.

The bottom line is that Canon has the decision rights here, and they have the data on sales, cost of goods, and market demand to drive those decisions. To date, the 7-series is the least frequently refreshed line (slower than even the 1-series), and has moved downmarket with the switch to mirrorless. I don’t think those facts bode well for those wanting an R7II to be significantly upmarket from the R7, but time will tell.

Canon Rumors said:

In the first half of 2026, we are going to see new APS-C cameras announced. One of them will be the EOS R7 Mark II. It's possible that we will see them before the end of February for the CP+ show in Japan. I expect a bigger splash from Canon this year than the PowerShot […]

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If the R7II does come with a new 40MP sensor, do you think the current 32MP will become the standard sensor across the rest of the APSC lineup?

neuroanatomist said:

I would agree with that. But the real issue is how many such buyers there are, and more importantly real ones, not just potential.

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A lot more than buyers for a $20k+ 1200mm lens, yet Canon makes and sells that.

Click said:

Very nice shots, Alan. I especially like the second one for the clear background.

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Well, with some not insignificant effort, I can clear the background of the first.

foda said:

I have created an Adobe Lightroom keyword list arranged by family to reflect the 2025 eBird avian taxonomy. It is keyed on the American English common names but includes the IOC common names as synonyms where they differ. It also includes the scientific names as well as the alpha codes.

You can download the list from https://drive.google.com/file/d/15jSCG2eUGQRwQlS9auFSDbvJ01dWWdy1/view?usp=drive_link

I would like to make this available to the wider birding community but would appreciate any feedback you might have before doing so.

Once downloaded, the list can be imported into Lightroom from the Library module via the command sequence Metadata > Import Keywords.

Please let me know if you have any questions or need any additional information.

P.S. Don't forget to update your copyright information in your cameras and image-processing software.

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Well done!

AlanF said:

The R3 is indeed a such a remarkable camera that its 24 Mpx sensor can outresolve a 45 Mpx one and it can correct in RAW files the chromatic aberration of a lens.

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What we need is to pair this magical R3 with @Michael Clark’s magical EF 70-200/2.8 II. The former will have enough resolution to match the latter. The combo would be unstoppable, especially if someone comes forward with an EF-RF mount adapter filled with magical contrast-enhancing air.

I think that they will indeed release an R3m2, they can come up with distinct stuff and it seems like they want a big lineup. How they'll do it I don't know though and I hope that there will not be a push for even higher pixel count across the board.

I have created an Adobe Lightroom keyword list arranged by family to reflect the 2025 eBird avian taxonomy. It is keyed on the American English common names but includes the IOC common names as synonyms where they differ. It also includes the scientific names as well as the alpha codes.

You can download the list from https://drive.google.com/file/d/15jSCG2eUGQRwQlS9auFSDbvJ01dWWdy1/view?usp=drive_link

I would like to make this available to the wider birding community but would appreciate any feedback you might have before doing so.

Once downloaded, the list can be imported into Lightroom from the Library module via the command sequence Metadata > Import Keywords.

Please let me know if you have any questions or need any additional information.

P.S. Don't forget to update your copyright information in your cameras and image-processing software.

Bob Howland said:

Given what Sigma has given us, do we really need RF-S lenses from Canon?

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Yes, I believe so.
I love and respect Sigma in many ways, but...
- Sigma only has 12 APS-C lens all together, and that includes some older ones. 9 available for RF (of which only a single one is ART)
- The f/1.4 primes and the 17-40/1.8 are certainly great products, but that's it. Longest available is the 56mm (no, we are not counting the 16-300). The 50-100 is unavailable for RF. There's no tele, no macro, no tilt-shift, nothing.
- Canon has 0 APS-C L optics. Sigma has 1 ART for RF.
- Sigma AF and IS performance is often behind Canon's
- Canon's new technologies, like Z and VCM are completely unavailable for APS-C.

So even considering Sigma lenses, the APS-C format is veeeeery handicapped.

Mark flyer said:

Less chromatic aberration, more detail on distant trees, similar dynamic range. Will share files once I can get them from my laptop at home.

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The R3 is indeed a such a remarkable camera that its 24 Mpx sensor can outresolve a 45 Mpx one and it can correct in RAW files the chromatic aberration of a lens.

AlanF said:

What does "better" mean? There are so many variables in an image, the lenses used and subjects, and in taking and processing them so please elaborate.

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Less chromatic aberration, more detail on distant trees, similar dynamic range. Will share files once I can get them from my laptop at home.

AlanF said:

OK, they were pictures before sunrise at sparks lake with a particular lens. Does that extrapolate to all situations?

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No, that's where I was in person helping compare, me and my two uncles were working on comparing them, the onenowns both bodies, and my other uncle and I are working on helping him compare them, our end evaluation was the R3 did better overall for landscape and wildlife and macro, that doesn't cover every situation and is just our OPINION.

rbr said:

I suspect many potential buyers for a high end APS-C camera share my sentiments.

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I would agree with that. But the real issue is how many such buyers there are, and more importantly real ones, not just potential.

Canon launched the 7DII over a decade ago, after which they updated the 70D to the 80D then the 90D, then released the R7 that spec-wise seems more of a successor to the 90D than to the 7DII. That suggests Canon does not see sufficient market demand for a high-end APS-C camera.

Canon may be helping that become a self-fulfilling prophecy by adding relatively inexpensive lenses that deliver good IQ (100-400, 200-800, 600/11, 800/11) and allow FF bodies to achieve far ‘more reach’ than in their DSLR ecosystem.

Less chromatic aberration, more detail on distant trees, similar dynamic range.

I would like to a have high performing 7DII if and only if it would fit in with my current gear as a 3rd camera with my R5 and R5II. I don't need/want any new lenses specifically for it. I am well aware of all the compromises with the crop sensors. I do think it could be very useful more as an accessory for certain situations than a workhorse if it had the same basic layout of controls and used the batteries, cards, grips, brackets, etc. that the R5 and R6 cameras use. I suspect many potential buyers for a high end APS-C camera share my sentiments.

Mark flyer said:

Okay, they were pictures before sunrise at sparks lake, Oregon. Both were raw files without editing, the same iso, same aperture, same lense.

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OK, they were pictures before sunrise at sparks lake with a particular lens. Does that extrapolate to all situations?

Mark flyer said:

Comparing between r5 and r3 the r3 takes better pictures, i was reviewing on a laptop with significant zooming.

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What does "better" mean? There are so many variables in an image, the lenses used and subjects, and in taking and processing them so please elaborate.

Mark flyer said:

Okay, they were pictures before sunrise at sparks lake, Oregon. Both were raw files without editing, the same iso, same aperture, same lense.

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great.. can you share them?

Well, I'm convinced.

roby17269 said:

Without knowing anything about how the images were taken and without seeing the files, I will not believe you

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Okay, they were pictures before sunrise at sparks lake, Oregon. Both were raw files without editing, the same iso, same aperture, same lense.

Mark flyer said:

Comparing between r5 and r3 the r3 takes better pictures, i was reviewing on a laptop with significant zooming.

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Without knowing anything about how the images were taken and without seeing the files, I will not believe you

roby17269 said:

In my experience they are almost identical only if you look at them on a small-ish screen without zooming in

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Comparing between r5 and r3 the r3 takes better pictures, i was reviewing on a laptop with significant zooming.