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Thanks for sharing. Beautiful scenery, very high image quality. Great shots. Well done!
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By chance, I was testing the RF 200-800mm on the R7 on Thursday and took a shot of a Robin at iso 8000 - this would be equivalent to iso 20,000 on FF given a crop factor of 1.6, which corresponds to 1.36 stops. This shot is from RAW straight out of DxO PL6 (yes I'm 3 generations back) with absolutely standard XDDeepPrime with no boosting. Going through back files I found a shot of a Great Tit taken by wife with the R7 + RF 100-400mm at iso 32k (equivalent to iso 82k on FF!), again straight out of DxO PL6 with no boosting of noise reduction. They look as good as I would get out of the R5 at the higher isos.Sorry, but when you tend to argue down to sensor size and adjusting to just "1 stop", I can tell you from my direct comparisons that I use my R6m2 up to ISO 6400 while I wouldn't use the R7 at higher than ISO 2000, because of s/n in the photos, given the RAW files I get out of the camera. (Of course, you can use SW to compensate this in PP)
So this is more than you say or think to calculate.
This is my direct experience, and here I would say, if Canon had to chose to get the same noise with 32 MP at ISO 3200 or 4000, or with 40 MP at ISO 2000 I would prefer s/n over resolution.
IF we are at physical borders here and it is not possible to increase s/n then it is as it is.


It’s far more likely that the factors on which you base your camera buying decisions aren’t those that matter to the majority of camera buyers. It’s not injustice, it’s the reality of Canon knowing the market and you…not so much.I know that buying a three thousand dollar camera with a sensor using tech that should have been retired a decade ago isn't something I'm interested in doing. Add in the entirely locked down mount and I don't get the attraction at all. In a just world, Nikon and Canon would flip places in market share.
Half confession / half recommendation.Are you boasting, confessing or complaining?![]()
Are you boasting, confessing or complaining?I've recently begun studying Arthur Schopenhauer. It's changing my life.
I've recently begun studying Arthur Schopenhauer. It's changing my life.What a ridiculous comment.
Really? I'm absolutely incensed neither Sigma or Tamron were mentioned.What I liked most about this post is its objectivity.
I more or less expected a "Canon über alles", this was fortunately not the case.
As a German saying goes: "Other mothers also have beautiful daughters."![]()
What a ridiculous comment.Frankly, this whole issue seems suspiciously like some guy with a penis and XY chromosones demanding that everybody must say that he’s a she.
I kind of agree, while the 20mm 1.4L is probably a great lens (haven't tried it), it's just one piece on a whole line of VCM lenses, which I wouldn't count as "great", just a good "mid"-L lens. Nothing groundbreaking thereIf the Nikon Z5iii gets the nod over the Canon R6iii because of ones favors "value for money" over "overall specs with all the whistles and bells" that premise should be applied to lenses as well. In that case, the 45mm F1.2 should be favored over the Sony 50-150mm f/2 GM. Don't get me wrong, the Sony lens is absolutely great, but I just don't get why in one case "value for money instead of overall specs" makes the decision and in the other category it is the opposite.
The 45mm F1.2 brought together two things that I´ve never seen put together: F1.2 and cheap (or at least affordable). That imo is an absolute game-changer and easily the best "value for money" this year concerning lenses.
It’s an issue for all cameras, as we’re not going to set them to perform autofocus at smaller apertures and risk being unable to focus in the dark. Honestly, I think Chris shouldn’t have mentioned that, because he made it sound like the lens “isn’t compatible” with certain cameras.it'd be useful to see how many times it is a real problem with R, RP, R6 and R5.
Yes, it should be more noticeable at close focus, your thinking is correct.For example: is it only visible when the aperture is stopped down one or more stops AND the camera is focussing close to the minimum focus distance?
I think I can convince myself that, for me, a RF 50mm 1.2 is the way to go using very solidarguments like "i only own 77mm filters", "I can't afford to buy a lens hood" etc.
Oh boy, that’s gonna be harsh for sure![]()
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A Canon lens with an aperture of f/1.2 and offered below $500 USD? Can this work out here? Let's check the Canon RF 45mm f/1.2 STM ...opticallimits.com
That Sony 50-150/2GM is a staggeringly good lens, and just 1340g. The 16-28/2GM is coming soon to complete the trio, hopefully it matches up to the other two f2GM zooms.
The Sigma 200/2 with it's hyper-fast AF, incredible image quality, and excellent stabilization is worth a mention. If only Sony didn't cripple 3rd party glass with that 15fps limit, or if Panasonic had AF that was able to track fast moving subjects. Or if Canon & Nikon weren't terrified of Sigma. This lens deserves better cameras to be mounted on.
Laowa's incredible T/S lenses are another highlight of the year. Superb performance at bargain (for T/S glass!) prices. Being MF only, they are available for RF, too.
because that typo will haunt me until the end of days, or until the R5 Mark III comes out. 5D mark II vs R5 Mark II is another one, i think both Craig and I have made that one.Why does the article text alternate between the R6 Mark II and Mark III?
thanks!A few errors jump out in this one...
"There were 27 cameras announced in 2025, with Canon releasing 4 of them, from the do-it-all R6 Mark II"
"it’s hard to argue that the Nikon Z5II delivers an excellent camera"
"Runner-Up for Best Camera of 2025 – Canon EOS R6 Mark II"
I know that buying a three thousand dollar camera with a sensor using tech that should have been retired a decade ago isn't something I'm interested in doing. Add in the entirely locked down mount and I don't get the attraction at all. In a just world, Nikon and Canon would flip places in market share.Clearly, you know how to run Canon's business better than they do. Maybe you should apply for the CEO job. There is an old saying "don't should on me" and methinks it applies here.
Yeah, and it's just pure coincidence that those are the only three graph points that chart significantly higher than the R6 II. Yep. Must be. Couldn't possibly be heavy use of NR to game the numbers from an ancient sensor tech that should have been retired a decade ago:I realize that. But it doesn't necessarily mean it's truly NR. This is something I've discussed in prior PhotonsToPhotos analysis on CR, and Bill actually agrees. It's just assumed that it's why it's there, but we don't have actual, identifiable proof of it.
For all we know, it could have something to do with dual-pixel sensors in general, as Canon needs to do some processing as they are combining the results from two wells, and they have to include the possibility that only half of the A+B overflows, which will change both auto focus and also color accuracy.


I'm not sure you realize just how hard it would be for Canon to change a fab over to a new process. It's incredibly expensive.
Absolutely, Sony has been doing it for years and at scale, but that makes it far easier to accomplish, while Canon is more of a boutique sensor fab.
We are getting closer to the end of 2025, and I decided to assemble my list of the best and worst in 2025. Initially, I was going to limit it to Canon, but then I thought I should expand it further. Maybe not the worst, though, because that baby is all Canon. The Best Camera […]
Equivalence means the resulting images are equivalent – same FoV, DoF and noise. It's right there in the word, equivalent is defined by the Oxford dictionary as equal in value, amount, function, meaning, etc. Equivalent doesn't mean two things are the same and one is different. That applies in any context, not just photography. You're saying that having two apples and an orange is equivalent to having three apples. Toddlers know better.I read Butler’s essay when it first came out but the James piece is new to me. Let me be blunt. Joseph James, Richard Butler and you do not have the social power to tell everybody what “equivalence” means and force them to use your definition, especially because your definition is almost certainly different than what most people use.
The physical reality is known by almost everybody here. We’ve certainly discussed it enough. Given three parameters (1) Field of View, (2) Depth of Field and (3) exposure, it is possible to define “equivalence” of lenses for different sensor sizes such that two of the three are held constant but the third must be allowed to vary. In your (and Butler’s and James’) definition, the FOV and DOF must be the same but the exposure is allowed to change. I maintain that most people, including me, say that FOV and exposure must be the same but, because the focal lengths of the two lenses differ, the DOF also differs. The difference in DOF is simply less important.
(So how does one hold exposure and DOF constant and allow FOV to change? Answer: use a different size sensor with the same lens at the same distance from the sensor using the same aperture. Alternatively, simply crop the image differently.)
FWIW, Chris Niccolls of PetaPixel has, within the last year or so started stating (usually rapidly) that some lens is equivalent to some FF lens but the DOF must be changed to some different aperture value. I suppose the PetaPixel folks got tired of folks complaining.
Frankly, this whole issue seems suspiciously like some guy with a penis and XY chromosones demanding that everybody must say that he’s a she. Social dominance only goes so far.