Thanks for posting this review.

Great review as always from Bryan.


Although he posted a picture on Instagram from a Sony...

1.6 is available.
Here is Canon French page, but the firmware is the same for everyone https://www.canon.fr/support/consumer_products/products/cameras/digital_slr/eos-r.html?type=firmware

A little update - Venus have announced that the 100mm will be available in RF mount from March 2020.

...From everything I've seen here, the R is usuable for a lot of things (including things it has been denounced as absolutely useless for), but portraits are where it (and its lens selection) absolutely shine.

I'd probably have already made the jump, at least to an RP, if I did a lot of portraits. As it is I'm waiting to see what the next generation of R series cameras brings.

Daner said:

If the RF 16-35 f/4 has IS, it is likely to be a very interesting alternative to the RF 15-35 f/2.8.

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The 15-35 also has IS.

Occipitals said:

35mm is a great focal length to shoot portraits with. All my street photos and portraits are shot with a 35mm. https://eddrobertson.com/street-portraits/

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Inspiring photos, thanks for the link

I wouldn't even consider it. I have uninstalled and reinstalled 5 times on my Mac now and every time it starts the first time then crashes on start up after that. Totally unusable.
When it does work on initial installation you'll find it's become a difficult to use scaled down shadow of its former (Luminar 3) self and in my personal opinion, not worth the outlay. You may disagree.

No IS? Tamron is doomed!!!

I just ordered an RP with adapter and RF 35mm + Novoflex FD 2 RF adapter for just 1150 EUR - some offer I coudn't resist just with the knowledge of only 250 CIPA shots.
If I think back to the old days of 35mm film rolls with 36 images per roll I think 250 shots is just phantastic if you try to exclude non-working objects/settings BEFORE you switch on your camera!

My RP will be used for low light, narrow DOF photography and I will use it to decide if I keep my FD lens range or not (except e.g. 1.4 50mm S.S.C., 3.5 50mm S.S.C. macro and 2.5 135mm S.C. which were my first lenses I ever bought back in the late 1980s 2nd hand). And my two 5D classic bodies will go away!

Looking at the price of that unique offer I am fine with 1150 Euro for a FF camera with some basic movie capabilities and very reasonable photographic IQ - body only at a price close to an M50, so no 2nd M50 anymore.

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Ok, I forgot that it was a "2018" release. Obviously, the cutoff is not December 31/January 1 since the 2019 list is already out.

But the EOS R wasn't nominated in 2018 either, while the forerunner of this year's "high end ILC" nominated and winner in the "innovation of the year" category Fuji GFX100 (that was supposedly so "innovative" for adding nothing new to the mix but just being the right mix of existing components that had not been previously seen - if the GFX100 was so revolutionary that it "... completely changed our understanding of what a medium format camera could be" then how could the GFX50R that it replaced have been so great? ) was nominated in the "high end ILC" category last year. As were two Micro Four-Thirds bodies from Panasonic, one of which was a fairly minor update to an already existing model.

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Sorry, logic will get you nowhere.

Its not the lens, but the fast aperture. I've seen a similar post before the 85 came out.

Your best bet is to contact Canon and see what they say.

Kit. said:

Yeah, but doesn't it only work with Apple-branded liquid nitrogen cooling containers?

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You don't actually NEED supercooling for modern thermal imaging sensors! That was so 20 years ago! The CAT S60 smartphone was one of the first phones to have thermal imaging and its IR sensor is only 640 by 480 pixels so the upgrade to 960 x 540 pixels (i.e. 1/2 HDTV resolution on each axis) is not out of the realm of possibility. At a 1/2 inch sensor size you can easily sense Near Infrared wavelengths (i.e. 750 nanometres to 2500 nanometres) although NOT into the far infrared range of 15 microns to 1mm wavelengths.

A 1/2 inch sensor at 960 by 540 pixels will be about 6.4 mm by 3.6 mm with a photosite size of about 6.5 microns which will result in a VERY NICE IR (thermal) image on a smartphone. You use computational software to combine the thermal image data with the 26.1 megapixel optical camera sensor (which will be slightly larger at about 6.4 mm by 4.1 mm in size) to get you really nice low-light level photography. I also suspect that Apple MAY be using a fast switching set of IR LEDs to flash infrared light pulses at a subject to measure the amount of time between IR pulses bouncing off real world objects/subjects so that accurate 3D measurement data can be taken, which is what I really think is the BOTTOM LINE to Apple for this type of large sensor smartphone.

It means you have a portable 3D scanner able to convert ANY combined optical image + IR thermal image into a real-time 3D vector object convertor which can be saved as a textured B-spline model to import into Blender, Maya/Softimage/Discreet/etc. I did notice NEW 3D imaging functions in the latest Apple SDKs! The Thermal (nightvision) functionality would be just an added bonus! As a technical note, you could put the iPhone Pro IR into a headset and have the equivalent of a $4000 set of PVS-14 nightvision goggles for less than $1500 and it would probably OUTPERFORM them in terms of actual image quality!




I don't have any other information other than my educated sensor size calculations, but I was told about actual drawings for the phone being passed around. Again, it was disclosed to me that this is a singular more professional-type of iPhone product SKU (i.e. likely MORE expensive but much more functional!) that will be the size of the XL series and that a Black glassy stripe will run across the upper part of the phone to "hide" the look of two 1/2 inch image sensors. I am VERY SURE that the 26.1 megapixel (6144x4256) will be nearly identical quality-wise to the Sony ones made for Fuji in their X-series of cameras....That actually bodes VERY WELL for low-light gathering power and actual final image quality for BOTH stills and video!

AND I should also note that a sensor resolution of 26.1 megapixels DOES FIT with Apple's tendency to NOT follow the rest of the heard in
terms of the megapixel race. It does to me sound like a focus on actual IMAGE QUALITY rather than mere huge megapixel numbers like what Samsung, Google, Xiaomi or Huawei tend to focus on! That in itself give more credence to the validity of this rumour in my opinion!

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Anyways.... YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Dockland said:

Ah, i find it a bit hard that Canon "removes" features. They usually add functionality. If it's not a bug in FW?

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the EOS R Menu and Settings feels limited and incomplete to me. I hope they release an update to fix this the exit magnify screen.

steen-ag said:

Just turn the fucusring and it will magnify 5 or 10 times

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forgot to mention I am using legacy non Canon lenses with no focus chip (Leica M and Pentax lenses) on my Canon EOS R

With Canon eliminating the crop in newer cameras, this seems like a product that won't have a purpose for long.

Jack Douglas said:

Sure, it's great fun if you can entice an editor to show up in a thread for debate!

Jack

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Sorry for the delayed reply, I was extremely busy: editing a Canon thread on DPR is the ideal setting for a masochist looking for THE ultimative kick

Sporgon said:

Back in 2015 when the 5Ds was introduced I posted a thread titled "Dawn of a new era for primes" as this 50mp camera would allow much more cropping and increase the versatility of primes. Nobody seemed interested at the time but I think I was proved right; there has been an explosion of new prime lenses since then.

5Ds : dawn of a new era for primes ?

My photographic career goes back well into the days of 35mm film, and with that medium cropping was generally very undesirable. You will occasionally find people on internet forums who claim that their 35mm film is about 20 mp because it scans at around 20 meg of information, but much of that...

www.canonrumors.com

I took my own advice and moved to the 5Ds, now I only own one zoom.

If you want to stay light and cheap I'd say go for the venerable EF 100/2. Fast focusing and excellent quality as good as the 135L. (I apologise for the blasphemy. No warning please mods). If you want prime but heavier I'd recommend the Tamron 85/1.8 VS. Very good portrait lens with IS but AF not as snappy as the 100.

I'd think long and hard before losing the EF 70-300L though. I did.

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The jump in mega pixels from my 5D Mark III to the 30mp of the R has made primes more appealing to me than they were for exactly the same reason; more latitude for crops. The 5Ds must be a dream for that. A high resolution R is on my wish list for the future for precisely that reason. I wouldn't care if it only shot 2 fps for what I do.

YEAH!! the firmware updates are avail on canonusa.com

unfocused said:

FYI, The Black Friday deals are now posted at Canon Price Watch.

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B&H is currently giving anyone the same price as CPW on the 90D + 18-55mm kit lens ($1199). They're slightly higher than CPW on the Body only (+ $100) and Body + 18-135 kit (+ $50).

But the B&H deals include a couple of extra third party batteries, an extra third party charger, a Sandisk 64GB Extreme Pro SD card, and Luminar 4.

I've bought that same third party 2 battery + charger from B&H. The charger includes a 12V cord so it can be used in the car while driving from one shoot to another. The batteries last about 80-90% compared to a Canon EP-L6n that came with the camera I bought at the same time. They're better than my 4-7 years old Canon EP-L6 batteries, which are beginning to show their age.

Mt Spokane Photography said:

Year old news? I guess a year + after it came out, people have forgotten that there are limitations. I did some tests on mine when I first received it in mid October 2018. It was known then that it used the on camera AF light and not the one on the Flash.

The good news is that it focuses in low light that is too low for me to see the subject unless I wait for 15 minutes for my eyes to fully adjust.

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One cannot forget what one never knew.

Normalnorm said:

They will release such lenses only if they see money. I have zero idea how large the astro market is but they did intro the Ra so there's that.

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Someone pointed out that the Ra is aimed at 'deep sky' astro, not the wide angle star scapes that Canon lenses tend to suck at due to coma.

Aussie shooter said:

If I could only afford 1 L-prime I would get an L-zoom

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In addition to the prime...

What we need is some more news to quibble about.

Jack

Turn off Exposure Simulation when using flash.
It’s not the shutter that is electronic, but the viewfinder that is electronic that causes this. Because your exif yields a pitch dark picture and it of course can’t simulate your flash.