Or buy direct from Canon for the same deal plus warranty.

Chaitanya said:

Does this mean their Macro lenses work fine without need of firmware update?

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The post talks about lenses that are current and not discontinued. It also assumes that they have the latest firmware installed. They should work fine with the limitations on using DLO as noted.

60 mp seems like the new sensor expected for both Sony and Canon. They could both make 200mp if wanted, but, 60 mp is a good compromise when you balance all the factors.

Micro tools carries several different types of lubricants for camera lenses

https://www.micro-tools.com/collections/lubricants

Currys PC World have back a Black Friday offer on the Canon 24-70m f/4 L IS USM, it's now just £329 after cashback using discount code CANON15. An amazing price for a great little L lens.

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/camer...mm-f-4-l-standard-zoom-lens-10148611-pdt.html

Let's see a review of Mitakon 20mm Macro.

Roy2001 said:

The point is, if SONY sales number is stable, and EOSR+5D/6D = 5D/6D before EOSR released, then Canon is not taking market share from SONY.

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You seem to have missed the point. FF MILC market share. Prior to the EOS R and Nikon Z, Sony effectively had 100% of it. Now, they have less.

You might wish to discuss FF ILC market share (i.e. FF DSLR + FF MILC), but the way BCN reports data, that cannot be determined so any statement you may make about Japan FF ILC market share is pure speculation. But Sony's loss of domestic FF MILC market share to Canon and Nikon is a fact.

That sucks. I emailed with the founder about support for the EOS R, and unfortunately he has no plans currently to support it. As lame as this is, if you're ready to give up, contact the credit card used for the purchase and let them know. Chances are good they'll take care of you.

Rocky said:

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I was using 28-135 with adapter on my M50 in two major trips. Quite a few people told me that looks cool.

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Not surprised, my M6 on the end of a big white looks cool too, but I didn't mean aesthetically.

rbr said:

I agree. I just got one a couple of months ago after wanting Canon to come out with something similar for years. I'm sorry that I waited so long to get it. At its current price it's a bargain. It is built like a tank and sharp corner to corner. The CA wide open is most noticeable up close with bright highlights and not really a substitute for a real macro lens, but I'm thrilled with it in every other aspect. I've owned all the current Canon 50's at one time or another as well as others for different camera brands. I wouldn't trade any of them for the Tamron.

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Another endorsement for the Tamron 45/1.8 from me. Although very sharp it has the softest bokeh.

Looks like some faster sensors all around but the 11, 12, 14, 16 bit ADC IMX571BQR (26MP @ 6.8 fps & 16b or faster framerates at lower bit depth/crop) looks like a pretty versatile chip that could allow some boost in raw data manipulation (multishot noise reduction? extended low ISO performance?).
Not sure if full well capacity is adequate to benefit from more than 14 bit ADC anyway ..

here's the 2018 sensor lineup:

https://www.sony-semicon.co.jp/products_en/IS/sensor2/products/index.html

It does offer some improvements, the question is whether it is worth it.
For instance, it is only a little quieter, the silent operation at longer focal lengths is not that usable handheld (maybe it will be a little better after they come out with the firmware to enable it in continuous mode, it may take a while).
It is a good deal smaller to carry around, but it is actually not any lighter with the EF adapter included.
Same with the FF sensor, better image quality but you need to crop in more or use a tele-converter, negating some of its advantages.

There is a YT channel about birding with this camera, it might help:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpggsZmXX-Fdmh8LJbJ0iTA/videos

I just had a blog I wrote for Borrowlenses.com go live this morning. I thought I would share it here for fellow gear snobs to read before bedtime. LOL Please ignore the super SEO happy title they gave the story. LOL

QUICK READ: It works really well and is going to find it's way into my bag this winter.

Working With the Canon 35mm II USM

Brittnei

SaP34US said:

Any pros on that do a lot video how much 4k do you do and how important to have uncropped?

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You do not notice the crop if using a mix of Super 35 cameras and EOS-R. The field of view between the C200 and EOS-R cameras, using same lenses, is quite similar. Actually EOS-R is a good companion for C200 (or C300) as it has the exact 24 (not the 23.9x) frame mode and C-log. Also, EOS-R has a good quality built-in stereo microphone that records usable audio. Extracting stills from All-I clips is also quite useful. My concern is its rather strong rolling shutter and shorter battery life but for the type of videos I take (i.e. short clips of music concerts to fill gaps in the main take by C200), and I guess for interviews too, it doesn't matter.

Personally, I do not like FBW. It is hard to be precise. I like the long throw focusing ring of the "old" MF lens with depth of field marking

BillB said:

I'm not sure how many people will think of the 28-70 as a useful walk around lens. It's on the hefty side.

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And a wedding, event, close up sports and concert photographes dream

mirage said:

I really doubt Canon is making much profit on several different models of their low-end crop-mirrorslappers [4000D, 2000D, 1200D, 1300D] at retail prices between € 289 and € 369 in my country / Central Europe ... often including some version of EF-S 18-55 kit lens ... and always including 20% VAT (sales tax).

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Not having sales / profit numbers, my bet is...

Those cameras make some profit, or else Canon would have killed it years ago. My guess is the low price comes from the cameras being made from hand me down (sensor, AF sensor, DIGIC) and common (EF-S mount, etc) parts from / with higher models. The R&D & manufacturing facilities setup costs were probably covered, and Canon makes just makes a small profit on keeping the manufacturing lines running.

A cheap kit gets customers into the system. I started with a 450D w/ EF-S 18-55mm (just before the 1000D hit the shelves), and stuck with the system. Now I have a 5Dmk3, four L zooms, a couple of primes, and an EX flash. My cousin bought an xxxxD camera w/ 2 lenses kit. Her sister liked it enough to buy an xxxD & 3 lenses.

I had the 5Ds before getting the 5DIV. I find the 5DIV to be a better all round camera. It is a little better in so many ways that the total user experience is significantly better with the IV. The touchscreen, the dual pixel AF in live view, and the generally faster and more responsive operation makes the IV better. The files are better as well, in terms of ISO and DR.

I find 30 megapixels to be a sweet spot resolution wise.

50 megapixels slow down both the camera and your computer, and post processing. Further, it demands more out of your lenses. Lenses you like on a 20 megapixel camera might show significant weaknesses on the 50 megapixel camera.

My honest opinion is that if you don’t have a particular need for 50 megapixels, then go for the 5DIV.

All this said, I agree that you can get amazing images and IQ from the 5Ds/r. And it is good in terms of ISO, if you downsize the files.

Pookie said:

Nice !!!

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Thanks, Pookie.

dwilz said:

regarding the slider. I was watching Duston Abbot's review of the EOS R on youtube. He made a comment that after disabling the slider lock that the slider became a much more usable control. I haven't looked into this yet myself.

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That is my experience also, I turned off the lock because I now use right tap for histogram and it’s not a crisis to accidentally hit it. And by turning off the lock it’s much more responsive.

I love it now, slide for kelvin adjustment and tap left for level and right tap for histo.

Laowa 10-18mm f/4.5-5.6 FE lens review

jd7 said:

My feeling is Canon deserves a fair bit of credit for managing to make EF lenses perform as well on the R as they would on a (similarly spec'ed) DSLR body, and making the transition to the R mount as painless as possible for EF lens owners.

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yes. But it was clear all along to anybody following Canon / developments and drawing the obvious conclusions.
Canon also "had to" ensure max. compatibility of EF lenses, since they could not possibly bring a full RF lens lineup on day 1.

jd7 said:

From the bits I've read, it doesn't sound like Nikon has done as well with the Z/F adapter.

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Nikon FTZ adapter works just as well for all *current* Nikon F lenses. Limitations only apply to "decades old Nikon shards". I understand that those affected are not really happy, but some things are just technically not possible. Nikon owners were spared the hard transition to an "electrified mount" Canon made in 1987 [FD -> EF], so they have to take some incompatibilities using old lenses on new camera bodies now. No reason for much whimpering really.

Surprise to see not enough EOS R image gallery around here. This thread is all about showcasing how well R performs under low-light situations or at high ISO settings.