Going beyond 600mm
- By Jack Douglas
- Canon Lenses
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JP4DESIGNZ said:I'd love to see a full comparison between the Canon EF-M 18-150mm and the Tamron EF-M 18-200mm!
...in-line with some of the other not-hidden-innuendo in this thread I may have led you there jebrady. ;-)jebrady03 said:Not quite sure what it says about me but when I read this my brain didn't see the "r" in one of those words and I thought "wow... Getting really graphic with the voicing of our displeasure over price, aren't we?"AE-1Burnham said:PERHAPS this is the first full-frame EF-M "L" lens, a double firsting of sorts...?!
I think one real advantage of M3 is its price. In any other aspect M5 is better. Especially in AF.jolyonralph said:If budget is tight I would suggest the EOS M3 as the best compromise at the moment, especially as you can add the external viewfinder should you need it.
One great advantage of the external viewfinder over the EOS M5 built-in is that you can angle it, it's really very flexible for shooting.
The EOS M5 is a better camera in most respects, but the M3 has a couple of advantages still so I'll keep mine when I get the M5
Mt Spokane Photography said:It all depends on lens sales. If the camera is bought with the kit lens and few owners buy additional lenses, then 3rd party companies will invest in production where they can make a profit. This next year may tell, now that M5's are out. How many will sell, how many extra lenses will be purchased as opposed to using existing lenses with a adapter.
Dylan777 said:More than happy to be in minority. It's fun to see canon owners got excited on m5 technology.
With just m1 technology, canon still top 3 in mirrorless. That draws a very clear picture the group canon represents.
Again, while waiting for Canon ff mirrorless MF mirrorless is already here. Have fun in majority![]()
YuengLinger said:JP said:scyrene said:Hey all. This is partly a bit of fun, as I'm well aware you shouldn't let a forum make big decisions for you. However, that being said, I'd like your input...
The question is, is the 200 f/1.8L a good choice for someone who *doesn't* do much portraiture?
I've lusted after it for many years. The other lenses I dreamt of, one by one, I have bought - some of them I subsequently sold. I'm not sentimental and will happily sell something I haven't used enough. The 85L was dreamy but got too little use - a little too bulky, too much CA, and above all, too valuable to keep, when I could spend that on other things. On the other hand, my MP-E will be with me forever.
bla bla bla...
I could sell it and get a new Sigma with cash to spare. But I'll always dream of the Canon 200L f/1.8L. I can't afford its f/2 IS replacement in the foreseeable future. I know the 1.8 has been used for some high end astro projects, and is a superlative portrait lens. But what about the rest of the time? It's front-heavy, and big, but how is it for other uses? Flowers, landscapes, insects, architecture. With an extension tube if necessary.
All thoughts welcome. Thanks!
PS I'm well aware the 1.8 is no longer supported by Canon, and runs the risk of being useless if the AF motor fails (although it can still be sold for parts). But the difference between it and the f/2 is around £2k at present prices.
I use my 200mm f1.8 for discerning clients... i.e. non soccer mom types... the corporate clients who hire me for my expertise... who don't want some idiot showing up with a pop-up flash on their Rebel... who actually recognize good results.. My 200mm f1.8 is also a sales tool... When I use that lens, people notice that I am the elite Professional.. not the guy with the Sigma who shoots for nothing... and is a weekend warrior..
That aside..... the 200mm f1.8 produces an image like nothing else for corporate clients of mine.... when used in conjunction with a Can 5D3.. The focus is critical... you have to get it right... I usually use mine at f2.0... but I still like to use it at f1.8, and the "Pop" it produces... is unlike anything else available. I can show you examples... many.. maybe if you ask I can put together a private linked URL gallery on my Smugmug for you to see unmarked/ unedited proofs.
I bought mine used from Cham Camera in S. Korea about 10 years ago for 5K.. I had to wire him the money... He was faithful and has also sold two other friends of mine the same lens... I'm happy with mine... It's my fav for portraits.... BUT if you want to save money.... I use the 135mm f2.0 and that is also a great lens... I use it now, in place of my 70-200mm f2.8 IS L..
Don't mean to offend or insult... I just do what I do and say what's on my mind.
Cheers!
Were you jilted by a "soccer mom"? Wow, what a bitter, ridiculous cheap-shot.
The TDP charts are accurate. If you compare the 70-300L and the 70-300 I, both at 300mm, on say the 1Ds III, the image quality is night and day as you say.Sporgon said:jd7 said:ajfotofilmagem said:In fact, the new 70-300 IS ii, compares well against the "L" model at 300mm.jd7 said:mrsfotografie said:Sporgon said:Disappointed by the reviews, I'm always on the lookout for a lightweight good value lens; this isn't it. The mk 1 version was dire at the long end, this looks to be similar.
+1. This one's off my list of potentially good lightweight travel lenses. Looks like Tamron will have continuing success selling the 70-300 VD USD.
Generally agree the new lens is not sounding fantastic, although looking at the TDP IQ comparison test between the new lens and the 70-300L at 300, the new lens seemed pretty close. I was looking on a phone screen though - won't have access to a big screen for a couple of days. Is there a clear IQ difference once you see it on a bigger screen?
Apart from TDP, are there other reviews of the new lens up yet? I didn't spot any when I looked yesterday.
http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=1077&Camera=979&Sample=0&FLI=4&API=1&LensComp=738&CameraComp=979&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=4&APIComp=0
Well, if it's optically not too far off the 70-300L, it is starting sound pretty good when you factor in weight and cost as well. Obviously the build quality won't be L, but I might end up a buyer of one of these after all. Will wait for some more reviews though. If I got it it would be for use as a travel telephoto and, sadly, I don't have any trips planned at the moment.
You could be really disappointed if you think it will be up to the 70-300L. I've used that lens and the USM I non L version and it's like night and day at the longer end. The reviews of the version II are saying it's not that different from the I, and so I guess this is an example of where the-digital-picture crops can be misleading.
That shot of the M5 @ 300 on TDP review is just unacceptable at both f6.3 and 8 IMO. In the U.K. half a grand £ is a fair amount of money, hobby-wise, and my gripe is the fact that you can get an asp-c equivalent fov lens and body that will produce better IQ for the price of this lens. FF should be about better quality output surely ?
bsbeamer said:sdz said:Red enables camera users to install the mounts they need. This comes with the absence of AF. One wonders if the users of the C100 need AF?
RED has been ahead of the curve in product offerings for years. They also come at a high price tag (especially when you need to factor post-production into budget), but compared to ARRI they are relatively moderately priced. Sony has taken up some of this market, but it looks like Canon is hoping to get a larger piece of the pie with the C700 moving forward. We'll see what happens around NAB.
There are absolutely situations and setups where AF or DPAF is really helpful and/or necessary. Not everyone has the ability and budget to have a focus puller and is shooting Hollywood entertainment TV and film with a crew. One or two man crews are quickly becoming the norm because of budget constraints, but those same clients still want the film look for an interview... therefore they are turning to C100, 5D, Sony A7s, GH4s, and similar setups.
Click said:I really like this picture. Nicely done, monkey44.
<strong>TOKYO, January 19, 2017</strong>—Canon Inc. announced today that the Company has renewed its contract and become the first company to serve as an official sponsor for Rugby World Cup 2019 in Japan, which will take place in twelve cities and prefectures¹ across the country from September 20 to November 2, 2019.</p>
<p>Hosted every four years, Rugby World Cup is one of the world’s most prestigious sporting events with the world’s top 20 national teams competing across 48 matches to win the ultimate prize in the sport, the Webb Ellis Cup.</p>
<p>Japan 2019 will be the event’s ninth edition and the first in Asia. The 2015 Tournament, which was hosted in England, was the best attended with 2.48 million fans, the most viewed with record broadcast, digital and social coverage in more than 207 nations².</p>
<p>As with other sporting competitions in the past, both in Japan and overseas, Canon will provide behind-the-scenes support to members of the press covering the Rugby World Cup 2019 Tournament, including camera and lens maintenance services and product loans, to enable the best possible capture of the top-class athletes competing at the zenith of their sport. The Canon Group will also provide print and copying solutions used by the Tournament Organizing Committee, supporting the event by facilitating the printout of handout materials and the streamlining of document workflows.</p>
<p>As a Rugby World Cup 2019 official sponsor, Canon offers the full support of its diverse businesses, ranging from input and output products—including cameras, lenses, video camcorders, network cameras, copiers, multifunction devices, printers and projectors—to medical equipment.</p>
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<p>Canon Inc. Chairman & CEO Fujio Mitarai said, “Following on from Rugby World Cup 2015 in England, Canon is delighted to continue backing the tournament, which will take place in Asia for the first time, as an official sponsor of Rugby World Cup 2019 in Japan. In addition to supporting professional photographers and news media from Japan and overseas as they capture the intense action of the world’s top teams facing off in peak condition; Canon, working together with World Rugby, the organizing committee, relevant authorities, local government and other corporate sponsors, will do the utmost to support Rugby World Cup 2019 throughout Japan.”</p>
<p>World Rugby Chairman Bill Beaumont said, “We are delighted to be extending our relationship with Canon as a Rugby World Cup 2019 official sponsor. Canon is an important supporter of rugby in Japan, an innovator in its field and a perfect match for our premier event.”</p>
<p>“This exciting relationship underscores the significant global appeal of the first Rugby World Cup in Asia and we look forward to working in partnership with Canon to extend the reach and impact of the sport in Japan, across Asia and around the globe.”</p>
<p>The Canon Group will continue contributing to the advancement of sports through the use of Canon products and technologies.</p>
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<li>¹Sapporo City, Iwate Prefecture and Kamaishi City, Saitama Prefecture and Kumagaya City, Tokyo Metropolitan, Kanagawa Prefecture and Yokohama City, Shizuoka Prefecture, Aichi Prefecture and Toyota City, Osaka Prefecture and Higashiosaka City, Kobe City, Fukuoka Prefecture and Fukuoka City, Kumamoto Prefecture and Kumamoto City, Oita Prefecture. (Host responsibilities will be shared by Cities and Prefectures written together)</li>
<li>²According to a World Rugby survey</li>
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<p>Editors Notes</p>
<p><strong>About Rugby World Cup:</strong> Rugby World Cup 2019 in Japan is the ninth edition of rugby’s showcase global event and the first in Asia. The world’s top 20 national teams will play in 48 matches hosted across 12 match cities for the right to lift the iconic Webb Ellis Cup and be crowned world champions. Rugby World Cup is the sport’s financial engine, generating approximately 90 per cent of World Rugby’s revenues for reinvestment in the global game over the four-year cycle. The record-breaking success of England 2015 is enabling World Rugby to invest £245.8 million (¥34.6 billion<sup>*</sup>) in the sport by 2020, eclipsing the previous 2013-16 £201 million (¥28.3 billion<sup>*</sup>) investment injection by 22 per cent.</p>
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<li><span class="marker">*</span>GBP = ¥140.7 as of January 18, 2017.</li>
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Looks like an osprey.TeT said:There is a pair of them nesting 1/2 a block away for the past few years. This one was having a long lunch on my telephone pole today allowing me time to get a decent photo.
Someone please post and ID for this guy...
The NEC has been out for a while, and as always in technology, it gets better and cheaper. When I got my NEC, BenQ was not there yet with specs, and the Eizos had bells and whistles (self calibration) that I was not willing to pay premium for. Still happy with my NEC, but possibly would get a BenQ today. Wouldn't be surprised if the NEC will drop in price soon.markesc said:It appears NEC Uses the same panel, slower refresh time of 10ms vs 5ms for the BenQ, and whoaaaa the price: $2800, however they have a 4 year warranty vs 3, and they may be more selective on the panels used?
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1223738-REG/nec_pa322uhd_bk_2_32_widescreen_led.html
New computer first, then the BenQ is prob the way to go, seems like a "steal" compared to the NEC
pdirestajr said:In the Pentax community those cameras are still loved and used by many.