Review: Tamron SP 150-600mm f/5-6.3 VC G2
The more and more I read, the Sigma C is the best bang for your buck of all 3 150-600 variants, especially when you factor in CA and corner sharpness.
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Mikehit said:1986 - load film, take pictures. Send to the photo lab and get pictures back 2 days after you took them.
2016 - lad 64MB CF card, take 3,000 pictures in a day, spend 3 hours loading them onto the computer, hours sorting through them and end up processing your images 2 days after you took them.
Progress?
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Eldar said:Photography gear is like sail boats. If you calculate the cost/trip (cost/image ... worth having I might add ...), you could not justify it and you´d sell it the next day. To me it is sunk cost and I am to let it remain that way (the boat is still floating though :)
Chapman Baxter said:Alex_M said:Hence my strong opinion: This focus shift issue is not by design. It was either overlooked at design or production stage or what is more likely: TDP reviewed somewhat flwaed copy of the lens.
I am not saying that minor focus shift is an issue. I am saying: whai is evident in the images provided by TDP hardly can be called minor focus shift. In fact it is very substantial focus shift no matter how we look at it.
Which images are you referring to? If it's the images of the jewellery, that's not focus shift, it's Bryan deliberately focusing manually in front of and behind the plane of sharp focus to evaluate longitudinal chromatic aberation.
As Dustin says, at such wide focal lengths, practically everything is in sharp focus regardless. I can set my 12-24mm Mk II so that everything from 3m to infinity is sharp without ever readjusting focus. As far as I'm concerned, focus-shift with this lens , of all lenses, is being blown out of proportion.
Maximilian said:Hi Ben!
Again some very good pictures with some additional very nice story telling as well.
I love those colorful Grand Canyon pictures. A really good prove that you'll have to camp there to get the right light
What time of the year have you been there?
I just wondered as there is so much greening in the valleys.
MrFotoFool said:Enjoyed it, as I do all your blog posts. Although I live in Arizona, I am in the southern part so I have only photographed South Rim of Grand Canyon. As you say there are no bridges, so to get to North Rim is another few hours drive around the canyon. You had trouble with road closure as North Rim is only open in summer and according to your report they also close the road at night even then? The advantage to South Rim is road is open 24 hours a day year round.
The long awaited firmware for the Cinema EOS C300 and Cinema EOS C300 Mark II has been released.</p>
<p>Please be sure to download the appropriate firmware for your Cinema EOS C300, as there is a version for cameras with and with Duel Pixel AF.</p>
<p>All of the firmware links are after the break.</p>
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<p><strong>Canon Cinema EOS C300 (with the Dual Pixel CMOS AF Feature Upgrade applied) v.2.1.8.1.00 </strong>
Firmware Version 2.1.8.1.00 incorporates the following enhancements:</p>
<ol>
<li>With the CN7x17 KAS S/E1 *1, CN-E18-80mm T4.4 L IS KAS, or CN20x50 IAS H/E1 ¹ attached, the following functions are available:
<ul>
<li>Autofocus using Dual Pixel CMOS AF is possible (with the exception of CN20x50 IAS H/E1)</li>
<li>Metadata, such as the model name and focal distance of the lens attached, can be acquired and displayed on the camera. ²</li>
<li>Peripheral illumination correction is supported.²</li>
<li>Aperture can be adjusted manually by operating the camera’s Control Dial.²</li>
<li>Settings can be made so that the zoom can be operated using the joystick on the grip unit of the camera.</li>
<li>The zoom/focus*2/iris*2 can be operated using the separately-sold RC-V100 Remote Controller.</li>
<li>The focus and iris can be operated via Wi-Fi Remote.²</li>
<li>The automatic aperture and Push Auto Iris functions can be used.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Support for the WFT-E8 has been added.</li>
<li>Support for peripheral illumination correction when the EF 24-105mm f/4L IS II USM is attached has been added.</li>
</ol>
<p>*1 The firmware of the lenses also need to be updated.
*2 For CN7x17 KAS S/E1, support has already been provided in Firmware Version 2.1.7.1.00 or later.</p>
<p><strong><a href="https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/support/details/cameras/cinema-eos/eos-c300/eos-c300#drivers_downloads_tab" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Download Canon EOS C300 Firmware Version 2.1.8.1.00</a> </strong>
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<strong>Canon Cinema EOS C300 / EOS C300 PL Firmware v.1.1.8.1.00 </strong>
Firmware Version 1.1.8.1.00 incorporates the following enhancements:</p>
<p>For EOS C300 EF only</p>
<ol>
<li>With the CN7x17 KAS S/E1 *1, CN-E18-80mm T4.4 L IS KAS, or CN20x50 IAS H/E1¹ attached, the following functions are available:
<ul>
<li>Metadata, such as the model name and focal distance of the lens attached, can be acquired and displayed on the camera.²</li>
<li>Peripheral illumination correction is supported.²</li>
<li>Aperture can be adjusted manually by operating the camera’s Control Dial.²</li>
<li>Settings can be made so that the zoom can be operated using the joystick on the grip unit of the camera.</li>
<li>The zoom/focus*2/iris*2 can be operated using the separately-sold RC-V100 Remote Controller.</li>
<li>The focus and iris can be operated via Wi-Fi Remote.²</li>
<li>The automatic aperture and Push Auto Iris functions can be used.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Support for peripheral illumination correction when the EF 24-105mm f/4L IS II USM is attached has been added.</li>
</ol>
<p>For EOS C300 EF/PL</p>
<ol>
<li>Support for the WFT-E8 has been added.</li>
</ol>
<p>*1 The firmware of the lenses also need to be updated.
*2 For CN7x17 KAS S/E1, support has already been provided in Firmware Version 1.1.7.1.00 or later.</p>
<p><strong><a href="https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/support/details/cameras/cinema-eos/eos-c300/eos-c300#drivers_downloads_tab" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Download Canon Cinema EOS C300 / EOS C300 PL Firmware v.1.1.8.1.00</a></strong></p>
<p><strong>Canon EOS C300 Mark II / EOS C300 Mark II PL Firmware Version 1.0.6.1.00 </strong>
Firmware Version 1.0.6.1.00 incorporates the following fixes and enhancements:</p>
<ol>
<li>Support for the OLED Electronic Viewfinder EVF-V70 *1 has been added.</li>
<li>Shutter Angle Priority has been added. A constant shutter angle can now be maintained, regardless of any other camera settings being changed.</li>
<li>Support for the WFT-E8 has been added.</li>
<li>Zebra Range Expanded Below 65%.
<ul>
<li>The range of the Zebra 1 setting has been expanded to between 5% (±5%) and 95% (±5%) in steps of 5%.</li>
<li>The range of the Zebra 2 setting has been expanded to between 5% and 100% in steps of 5%.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Built-in Mic Audio Off
<ul>
<li>The internal microphone on the camera body can now be turned off.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>In Browser Remote, the focus guide frame can now be displayed.</li>
<li>2K Crop Audio Recording
<ul>
<li>Audio can now be recorded when the camera is set in 2K crop mode.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Support for CFast cards (VPG130) has been added.²</li>
<li>Support for peripheral illumination & chromatic aberration when the EF 24-105mm f/4L IS II USM lens is attached, has been added.</li>
<li>Metadata related to the XF-AVC range has been corrected.
<ul>
<li>The range of Canon Log/Log2/Log3 has been corrected to full range.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>The quality of autofocus has been enhanced.</li>
<li>The operation reliability after changing the recording mode has been enhanced.</li>
</ol>
<p>*1 When using the EVF-V70, magnification and the function to display the camera’s live view image on the Browser Remote screen cannot be used while recording.
*2 For detailed information about CFast cards that have been verified to work with this camera, please visit Canon’s Web site.</p>
<p><strong><a href="https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/support/details/cameras/cinema-eos/eos-c300-mark-ii/eos-c300-mark-ii#drivers_downloads_tab" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Download Canon EOS C300 Mark II / EOS C300 Mark II PL Firmware Version 1.0.6.1.00</a></strong></p>
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andrei1989 said:any news on availability? it was supposed to be november but it's already december![]()
Grant Atkinson said:Hi Ah Keong
I use Zone AF on the 7DMark 2 when I need to find a fast-moving subject quickly, whilst it is still small in the frame (and I might miss with Single Pt), situations might be an approaching bird in a clear sky that i want to start tracking from far off. I may shift the focus mode from AF Zone to a Single Point or Single plus 4 (AF expansion) immediately after aquiring initial lock, if the bird is far enough away to give me that time. It is easy to switch on the 7d2 with that mode lever. Other times i use Zone AF on the 7D Mark 2 are when my subject is moving from one side of the frame to the other, rapidly. The advantage of Zone AF is that i can move it from left to right of the frame with just one or two clicks of the multi-controller.
Sometimes I find that Zone AF grabs the wrong part of my subject though, like the wingtip or the tail, but this might not be an issue when I am shooting with sufficient depth of field. I have spent enough time shooting the subjects I most often shoot with the 7d Mk 2 that I have a feel for how it does for me. It may just be me and the subjects that i shoot, lenses etc but i typically find that AF Zone works a tiny bit faster and more accurately on the 7D Mk2 than on my 5Dmk3 and perhaps my 1DX as well.
On the 5Dmk4, I am still evaluating my own results and building experience with the focusing modes, and so far I am getting my best results with Single Pt Af, as well as AF Point Expanded (1 plus 4) and then for instances where I may need to find a bird in the sky, exactly as described above for the 7d2, I am using AF Expansion (one plus 8 points) to give me wide coverage, at least initially. I may end up using AF Zone on the 5Dmk4 more when I have more months with the camera?
It feels like each new generation of processor or camera that Canon bring out in the 7D, 1DX and 5D series get a little better at managing the more complex AF groupings so I am cautious not to assume that one body will be the same as another without shooting a lot with them first. Some models also have more powerful dedicated AF processors![]()
Monte said:Thanks for the input guys. Yes, my thought was that the 5D mkiv with the better images at higher iso's would help "cheat" in place of gaining a stop of light with the EF200-400 over the EF100-400mkii lens. This would enable me to use higher iso's than I could get away with on the 7Dmkii, but again, less reach as well due to the crop factor. I'm also considering the 1DXmkii as well for it's superior factors in everything and still half the cost of the EF 200-400.
FEBS comment:
"Also the stop of difference between 100-400 and 200-400 on the long end means only about 10minutes more time during sunset, and most wildlife is all ready settling for the comming night at that moment. Masa Mari, has comparable light conditions with Uganda, and there the 100-400II will do a great job."
Hi Monte, i tried to send you an email, let me know if you received it
Thanks, this makes total practical sense in that all this concern and cost in reality may only gain me mere minutes at the end of the day for the stop of light difference.
As mentioned, I have the EF 400 f/2.8 mki lens and I played around with it having it on one tripod with a 7Dmkii and having my other 7Dmkii with the EF 100-400mkii on it right beside it with the cameras totally set up the same in all the settings and using auto exposure via auto iso adjustment and yea, as expected, big differences in the iso levels between the two! Makes it very hard to consider selling the 2.8 lens.![]()
Decisions, decisions!!!! I don't want to come home and load the pictures up on the computer and live with regrets on a likely once in a lifetime trip for the five of us.
Not surprised. Simply do not believe you will have more facial expression in the box with a 5DIII compared to a 6D. 4.5 fps will capture everything 6 fps will capture.sunnyVan said:Why are you surprised? Capturing emotions is in some way similar to capturing actions. When that fleeting moment is gone, it's gone.
Ah-Keong said:Policar said:Waiting a FF Foveon P+S. Sold the 5D and bought a DP Merill 2. Anyone looking for a sharp normal lens needn't look further. At small print sizes it has the look of a view camera and slide film, very sharp and clean.
I believe if they have sufficient resources, the sigma body with the new sensor would have potential like the Fujifilm.
neuroanatomist said:melgross said:I don't see it as being a problem in that way. The first thing to note is that if only Canon is doing this, it's unlikely that a third party lens manufacturer would bother. Right now, optical designs are the same, and it's the minor difference of the lens mount and electronics that they match. Since they don't do that for all mounts, because of sales, can you imagine them designing lenses just for Canons' platform? That would be a difficult decision.
The second thing is that if they did decide to do it, they wouldn't need to exactly duplicate it. If there's a big enough difference, optically, between the curved sensor and the flat state, then just approaching it would result in a big improvement.
My point was not that 3rd parties would design new lenses for a curved sensor, but rather that they would not need to change their flat-field designs to work with such a curved sensor.
melgross said:Thirdly, since it appears that the curved state is functioned by an electric signal, it's possible that it can vary its curved state depending on the signal. Perhaps wide lenses could see more curvature, and tele's, less. It's even possible that the curve could vary according to the focal length in a zoom. Now, that would be something!
I believe that's the whole point of this patent - a dynamically controlled amount of curvature. The necessary degree of curvature to avoid the need for in-lens optical correction is going to vary based on focal length, so a fixed sensor curvature would only be optimally effective at a single focal length. Without the ability to dynamically adjust the curvature, the application would be limited to a fixed prime lens camera, not a fized zoom lens or an ILC.
melgross said:Lastly, what's to say that Canon would even allow the curved state to work with third party lenses?
Good point, but by the same token why should they allow a 3rd party lens to work with their AF system? But...they do.
Click said:neuroanatomist said:Canon didn't even have to ask customers if their service is better than Sony...![]()
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bf said:I can't see any results?
Hi YuengLinger, I always keep IS on when using my 100-400ii, whether on the tripod or not. Any of the 3 modes should be helpful. Just some questions - are you mounting your 100-400 via the lens collar itself to the tripod head? I also use a long(ish) lens plate as recommended by another poster in this thread, and get the setup rougly balanced. Placing a hand on top of the lens is one way to help dampen vibrations.YuengLinger said:My chance to get out to a wetlands preserve has been pushed back another week, but thank you all for the suggestions, each of which I'll try to get better, more consistent results at 400mm when on a tripod.
I am no fit. I just try to use the 500 on a tripod close to my car or on a car window. When I was hand-holding it almost continuously (on a boat shooting birds) for a couple of days my left hand got so tired that I switched to the 400 DO ii. Even so my hand was feeling tired (when I tried to lift even something light) for about t2 months!NancyP said:Tron's got a good memory. Yes, I'd be interested, if I could handle it. I tried the Sigma Sport 150-600 mm lens at 2.86 kg - could get it on and off tripod and hand hold in shooting position for a few minutes, but my panning is not great at 600mm - need more muscle to make it readily usable. (actual efforts underway since then, but a long way to go, gym-wise). So, the 500 f/4 L IS II is 3.19 kg and the 600 f/4 L IS II is 3.92 kg. I need to rent a 500 or 600 mm 3+ kilo lens once I have built up my usually ignored arms. This takes longer every year....must get very systematic about arm/shoulder exercises, normally I have just done core and legs.