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Canon's Lineup Restructuring?

PhotographyFirst said:
The 6D2, will move down market in terms of price and build quality. It is not quite down to "super rebel" standards yet. I think there is a large market for a bare-bones full frame model that can entice people to move up from crop. Current 6D prices are pretty good, but maybe Canon can get the next model even lower? They would be silly not to give it a Rebel form factor with the articulating touch screen. A near $1000 FF model like this would fly off the shelves.

Did you forgot about this?

Aside from that. DSLR segment is shrinking and the trend will stay that way for sure until 2020 (sensors):

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Taken from here

Also check this trend

I don't like this whole thing with Canon new-good-old-segmentation SPORT vs STUDIO, but hey they've gotta make some profits. More than 60% of their business is related to cameras so to speak. And its market is quite shrinking and competitive.
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Appreciation post

Paddyglass said:
I just got some old 8mm video reel converted to digital (taken on a Canon 514XL in 1978).
While its content is priceless I was struck by how incredible the gear we have today is in comparison.

Back to 2015 and the video from my 1Dx is stunning. Every time I put on a different Canon lens on my body I think - actually this is an incredible lens too! So thank you to all the engineers and scientists who have contributed to gifting us insanely powerful photography equipment.

Some people are waiting for the never to arrive tomorrow to be satisfied - incremental updates in dynamic range come to mind!

I seem to be having a very insighful and mindful morning :)

I have drawers full of medium format 6x6 and 6x7 negatives and transparencies as well as a number of 5x4 transparencies. All in great nick; I'll scan some and post a few on CR some day.

I recon that FF is now comfortably ahead of 6x7 and my stitches are ahead of 5x4.
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Canon 5D III and Zeiss lenses: focusing screen?

noisejammer said:
niels123 said:
I just like to have only the eyes in focus in the face, so subject-background-seperation will not help here. From Zeiss I only own the 135 f/2, and I wish to get it tag sharp at least 90% of the time at f/2 without zooming the live view on the camera.
You can easily calculate the distance to the subject by using
D = F * H / h where F = focal length (in your case 135mm), H = subject height or width ( I'll guess 450 mm width) and h = sensor height or width (if you're in portrait orientation it would be 24 mm width. From this, I get your subject distance is going to be about 2500 mm.

Now go to www.dofmaster.com and do your own calculations. I got that the total DoF will be 3.9 cm split nearly equally between front and back. That assumes the circle of confusion is 0.03 mm. If you want the image to be a fair reflection of your lens' capabilities, you can set the CoC at 0.015 mm and you'll find the total depth of field is 1,9 cm. That's 1 cm in front and 1 cm behind. If you're human, you will sway by several mm (as will your model - even if he / she is trying to stand absolutely still.

The result is that even if your focus is perfect, you might only get 50% of your images sharp but you should get about 25% sharp. This is why it's far smarter to stop down the lens a little and make sure you nail every image.

It's easy to test this - focus on something that's difficult to see then shoot off several images. You can even use this to estimate how much you sway which should inform how fast an aperture you should be using.

Thanks a lot, that makes a lot of sense :) I hope to get a Zacuto soon and then start shooting with it ;D
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7D MarkII Battery Performance

I have been surprised how good the batteries have been with my 7d2. I'm about 20,000 exposures into this new body, and I've been using a combination of Canon brand batteries that came with the 7d2 (the "n" version, which is supposed to have some nominal amount of extra juice) and my off-brand Wasabi batteries that I have had very good experience with in my former body, the 70d. Interestingly, the Canon batteries have gotten better and better each time I charge them. I'm getting about 1,000-1,200 exposures per battery. I do shoot in bursts, doing wildlife (and 4-year-old human wildlife), and this seems to really up the shutter count per charge. However, my off-brand batteries are doing terribly. I might get 400-600 shots per battery. I do not know why this would be the case, unless those "n" batteries made for the 7d2 have a lot more extra juice than advertised.

I'm not doing chimping, do not have GPS turned on, and generally have a pretty low power profile in my use of the camera, but this isn't a deliberate effort, but rather just how I like to shoot. Oh, and I've been shooting outside in weather that has been roughly between 10 degrees and 30 degrees f.

I hate how much Canon charges for name brand batteries, but I think that's the way to go with this camera.
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Firmware: EOS 5D Mark III Version 1.3.3

AvTvM said:
Adding 2nd curtain sync to a wireless remote flash protocol must be really easy. Even Nikon can do it ... for many years now. Even with old-style optical triggering. I am convinced, some ML guys could do it within very short time ... if Canon gave them proper access to the current wireless ETTL source code and fully specs for the hardware involved (ST-E3-RT and 600EX-RT)

I'm certain Canon could do it...they have just decided it doesn't meet the wants/needs of the majority and thus it's not worth the (comparatively minor) development costs.
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High Megapixel Camera Coming in 2015 [CR3]

PVS said:
There you go

Intersting - let's hope many people dump their outdated 5d3 and crop cameras so they become available for the rest of us :-> ... with the advanced metering and crop mode, I'm sure Canon will have problems producing enough of these for the upcoming demand.

This are the specs that are actually interesting (apart from the missing dual pixel af in the list)
* Continuous shooting 5 frames / sec.
* High precision 61-point AF
* 150,000 pixel RGB + IR photometry sensor
* 1.3x and 1.6x crop shooting mode
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Canon 7D2 + 100-400 markii review

Nice review Kent. You went to alot of trouble.
You are talking some nice shots
Personally I have found the Canon 100-400 works better on a 5D Mark III.
Not to do with the lens but the fact the picture quality on the 5D Mark III is much better than the 7D II.
The 7D II might be good for an APS-C but when you work with Full Frame it seems to be hard to accept the quality of current APS-C sensors

Kind Regards
Fergal
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Review: Canon EOS 7D Mark II

Review: Canon EOS 7D Mark II

My First Impressions

10 FPS is great fun (even if you produce way to many photographs)
Layout is great if you are used to a 5D Mark III.
ISO performance is disappointing. I can't compare it to a 7D but alot poorer than a 5D Mark III.
Maybe I am expecting too much from an APS-C camera but I've found it disappointing.
I could be spoilt by the 5D Mark III.
I find cropability of picture is much less than a 5D Mark III. Pixels seem to break up faster.
Again here maybe an unfair comparison but it's the first camera I've bought that is lesser than the previous.
I wouldn't see a huge difference in picture quality from a 500D to a 7D Mark II.
Whereas there was a huge difference between a 500D to a 5D Mark III.

Focusing is very strong on the camera. It's snappy and accurate.

So in summary it is a good camera for an APS-C.
I'd be surprised if it is king of the APS-C. If so they are not progressing much in the last few years.
It's not a great leap forward.
It's main positive is 10 FPS.
I would see that as the only reason to buy it over a 5D Mark III.
I don't you'd actually get better reach using it over a 5D Mark III.
A crop on a 5D Mark III would give a better result.
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The Canon EOS-7D Mark II AF Grid Void

Thanks East Wind Photography and bluenoser1993, I agree with what's being expressed. I have until the end of March to decide and maybe just stick with my 6D for now. Still spending time on the Queen Charlotte Islands is the plan and there are birds and wildlife in abundance including bears, eagles etc. so ........??

I'll be watching all the threads! :-\

Jack
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Just for Jrista: 2014 Market Data

More than 45 days after the last topic post I am revisiting especially for our beloved Jrista in order to update it with some Canon Financial Results 2014 and two additional summaries. First one & Second one

In short:

Results

Within the Imaging System Business Unit, although sales volume of interchangeable-lens digital cameras declined owing to the shrinking market—in Japan as a result of the reaction following the rush in demand prior to the consumption tax increase, and in Europe and other markets due to worsening economic conditions—the advanced-amateur-model EOS 7D Mark II achieved healthy growth, enabling Canon to maintain the market’s top share.

Outlook

As for the digital camera market, although projections indicate continued market contraction mainly for low-priced compact models, demand for interchangeable-lens digital cameras is expected to recover gradually.

And the most interesting part

As for the industrial equipment market, with manufacturers expected to continue making capital outlays for semiconductor lithography equipment in response to increasing demand for memory devices and image sensors, demand is expected to remain at the same level as the previous year. And as for FPD lithography equipment, demand is projected to increase as device manufacturers boost capital investment amid growing panel demand projected for 4K televisions and mobile devices.

Would that mean update of the old 0.5 tech? As well as using the SONY systems or CANON own 5 layer CMOS? ;-)

2015 - good times!

Imaging System
2015 - 1,399,000
2014 - 1,343,194
2013 - 1,448,938

Business share of Imaging systems:
2015 - 64 %
2014 - 64 %
2013 - 67 %

R&D EXPENDITURE (based on constant 8.2% of sales) in Millions of yen

2015 - N/A out of 320,000!!!
2014 - 84,377 out of 308,979
2013 - 87,510 out of 306,324
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Sony Sensors Coming to Canon DSLRs? [CR1]

Diko said:
Phase detect - yes. DualPixel Auto Focus however as concept has been made by ONLY one vendor of 4/3 camera.... I believe it was Fujitsu... not sure about the name.

Considering that DualPixel as such has mainly drawbacks (no cross type AF, can't be read fast enough with the current architecture) I'd go rather for the effect then the specific implementation.
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24-70 f4 IS vs. 24-105 IS

monkey44 said:
My take on Kit lenses like the 24-105 -- identical to the "purchase alone" lenses -- so, the quality remains the same. The kit lenses more than likely arrive because of promotion of a new camera with a lens, and I'm guessing the lenses are either not selling well at the "lens alone" price, or Canon built a lot more and expected more sales and didn't get it. So, it becomes a kit ...

When Canon says: This lens cost $1150 new, but with a 5DM3 at $2750, we'll sell both for $3300, than everyone gets a deal, at least we think it's a deal, until the 24-105 starts selling alone for $675 or so. Maybe that's the price it should have sold at the beginning -- but with a reduced price kit, an overvalued lens gets more cameras sold. My thoughts anyway. Marketing, marketing, marketing!

+1
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Canon's Q4 earnings report shows camera sales are down - Dpreview.com

xps said:
Dpreview.com wrote:

Canon's Q4 earnings report shows camera sales are down

http://www.dpreview.com/articles/5928296460/canon-q4-earnings-report-shows-camera-sales-are-down

No surprises except DSLR sales were even lower than previous warnings had predicted.

More of interest for Canon photographers is Canon's strategy for a turn-around:
"For cameras, efforts will be made to comprehensively raise aspects such as image-quality, visual expression, and operability" On top Canon intends to substantially improve wifi ("interconnectivity").

Sweet music to my ears. They know they are behind and their DSLR business is suffering because of it and they are ready to take action to "comprehensively" improve their DSLRs on several key points. I esspecially like the promise of better image iq and wifi. THe bit about operability sounds like touch screen menu's to me.

Looking even more forward to that 5DIV (or whatever!!!).

And for those who mysterously have argued that Canon was happy with their sales, camera profits were healthy, or at least good enough, no reason for Canon's board to worry as they maintained market share blah blah blah. I can just say: this is exactly the report we could expect from Canon to their investors and they even offer info on what they intend to do about their fledging DSLR business.

I'm happy to note that Canon board members have a much more realistic view on their business than many people here seem to have. It'll make for a bigger chance Canon will stay in the DSLR business for many more years to come.
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Auto Focus MicroAdjust--Why the Stigma?

YuengLinger said:
candc said:
I don't have an issue doing afma on the canon lenses. If they are off its usually consistent and easily correctable. Its the sigmas that deserve the stigma! The amount of fiddling it takes to get a sigma zoom lens right is ridiculous. I'm camera afma probably won't work so you have to use the dock to do 4 focal length x 4 subject distance corrections. Figure 4 hours and at least a hundred trips up and down the stairs. I just can't believe they can't do a better job at the factory. Once you adjust it with the dock it may need afma on certain bodies which I can understand due to camera lens mount tolerances and such but that initial work you have to do with the dock is like starting from scratch to get the lens where it should have been to begin with.

There, I feel better now.

Sharing your feelings about the Sigma 50mm Art, which was so tantalizing yet so unreliable. To heck with a dock if I already have a camera with AFMA functions. That said, I was super lucky with the 35mm Art, and the Sigma 15mm fisheye has been great in all its fishiness.

For my Sigma 50mm Art, I don't think the problems were AFMA related. I saw a post that suggested, half-jokingly, that some of them seemed to have a random number generator on the AF chip. Sure seemed true.

That sounds like me. ;)
I like Sigma glass, but I have grown to despise the way they handle AF, and the way that their service and support treat users (at least how they've been treating me, and I'm usually not special enough to warrant a unique treatment).
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