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Mt Spokane Photography · Dec 17, 2014

There are some Nikon only forums where there may be a lot of members who know.

The issue with Nikon is that they will only service cameras and lenses in the country they were produced for, this is their way of slowing down gray market sales.

lintoni · Dec 17, 2014

neuroanatomist said:
lintoni said:

Ineed, but unless I'm mistaken, Canon have not released user-downloadable firmware updates for any of their premium L lenses, whether they will in the future is another matter.

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There's really not enough for a precedent. Only 5 lens firmware updates have come out, one for a $150 consumer lens and the other four for supertele lenses >$7000. But relatively speaking there aren't that many 300-600 MkII lenses out there, and there were even fewer at the time of the update (my 600 II came with the updated firmware, about a month after the advisory was issued). OTOH, there are a lot of 24-70/2.8L II lenses out there, representing a major burden on the service centers and a substantial outlay for shipping costs – I highly doubt they'd require sending the lens in.

As I said, whether they will in the future is another matter. But they have not retrospectively made the firmware updates for the L lenses user-downloadable, for the handful who may have missed the advisory notice.

Mt Spokane Photography · Dec 17, 2014

I'd only buy the dock if you plan to use it.

old-pr-pix · Dec 17, 2014

Thanks, neuro. I certainly recognize the SQF from Pop Photo lens testing. Your comment led to some interesting reading on the Imatest website on SQR vs. MDF; but I must be too dense to get the Google hook reference.

Mitch.Conner · Dec 17, 2014

RGF said:
TexPhoto said:

Mitch.Conner said:

TexPhoto said:

Mitch.Conner said:

TexPhoto said:

You should demand your money back.

They list the benefits. Its free. What is not to get? You get those benefits. They get a way to send you information to try to sell you more things. (it's an exchange)
An example of those other things?: CPS Gold and Platinum.

is it working? "and I might upgrade at some point in the future". Hmmmm.

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Hi there!

Thanks for reading the part of my post where I said, "Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining - I realize that you get what you pay for - I'm just curious..."

Wait? You didn't read that?

Bummer.

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Hi! Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed your post. I read your whole post and I responded. I disagree. Statistically it was bound to happen. Reading up and down the responses, has anyone agreed with you?

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What is there to disagree or agree with?

I posted a question.

Unless you're disagreeing with my assertion that I want to know if there is more to CPS Silver than I currently understand, there quite literally is nothing to disagree or agree with.

In actuality, statistically - it impossible to disagree with a question. The chance of it happening is 0.

I think you're misreading my post.

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"but it seems Silver is more or less just about using minor benefits for the purposes of data collection and mining (equipment owned, type of photography, etc.)" plus lots of support for that. I disagree with that. My fault, I assumed you'd understand I disagreed with the declarative statement, and all the support around it.

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If you are concerned about data mining, simply give the minimum amount of information.

Oh, no - I wasn't concerned - it was just a thought.

Ryan85 · Dec 17, 2014

Eldar said:
Very tempting as a low weight and compact companion for travel and hiking ...

+1

sanj · Dec 17, 2014

Today's reality!

Ryan85 · Dec 16, 2014

beforeEos Camaras said:
Ryan85 said:

beforeEos Camaras said:

Ryan85 said:

beforeEos Camaras said:

I love the 400 5.6l lens. it has gone beyond every thing I expected of it . I wanted the Tamron but it was on back order and a huge waiting list at the brick and mortar store I do my camera buying and losing time on the fall migration I bought the 400 and its been a great addition to my line up. Now I just bought the 1.4 tele lll for longer reach static shots on a tripod. it pairs well with my 70D and t1i and the 70-200 f4 is.

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Are you happy with the sharpness of the lens with the extender?

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on my 70-200 yes but I have not been back to plum island to try out the 400 1.4 combo yet
what little I did use it on the 400 on cape cod it was ok just not in extreme low light f8 is a bear and using live view for auto focus I have yet to master.
but manual focus works well

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Got you. I was thinking about useing it with the 1.4 extender with a tripod for still subjects like elk beded down.

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yes it will be good here is a hand held with the 1.4iii at sunset sorry not having any wild life shots but its the best I can show. this was taken about 2 hours after I bought the extender still getting used to it and trying to rember manual low light focus.

Thanks for sharing and letting me know

Richard8971 · Dec 16, 2014

xps said:
As there has been a lot of discussion in the past two weeks about bashing the marvellous 7DII and everybody who wrote something not positive, was called a troll, I wonder, why no one called the owner of this thread a troll?

My 7D still works fine too. It will work fine, until the 5DIV will appear on the horizon ;D

Maybe I have been turning a little green lately. It's time to take a bath!

The 7D2 is a fantastic camera, but the other day when I was visiting Adorama I was 2 seconds away from clicking the "Buy it now" button on a brand new 7D2 but I stopped myself before I could and I'm glad I stopped myself from making a mistake.

Instead, I took advantage of the $300.00 rebate and bought a new 6D.

Now I have a fantastically speedy crop sensor for sports and wildlife (my old 7D) and a perfect FF sensor for portraits and low light (high ISO) photography (my new 6D).

I'm super stoked.

D

nonac · Dec 16, 2014

Sending this eval lens back a few weeks ago was difficult. That said, I ordered my own today.

Hjalmarg1 · Dec 16, 2014

Dylan777 said:
Have you ever consider their native FE lenses? It gives you a must better balance and faster AF. With Canon L + adaptor, I just don't see the point of going mirrorless system.

Canon offers many more quality lenses that Sony. Sony 24-70 isn't nearly as sharp as Canon 24-70 2.8L II

wickidwombat · Dec 16, 2014

oh its also a bit of pain in the arse taking the lens on and off the camera have a body cap nearby to keep poping on the body. I shoot a group of 5 shots for each one defocusing manually and refocusing between each shot

also do this shooting tethered using eos utility its much faster as you can see it up on the screen straight away

i did the calibration manually NOT using focal. I then ran the focal tests to confirm i was where i wanted to be
not sure if you have focal or not but i didn't use the focal results to make changes on the dock calibration
the final focal recommended a +1 AFMA but i didn't change it as this was close enough as makes no difference to me.

if i think of anything else i'll post it up

Mt Spokane Photography · Dec 16, 2014

darth mollusk said:
I find it interesting that some people remain unconvinced that the new 400mm DO ii will be an exceptionally sharp lens. The MTF charts for the DO ii look amazing. In contrast I also find it interesting that many who own the 400mm 5.6L claim that this lens delivers impressive image quality, while the MTF charts look rather unimpressive.

Can Canon's MTF charts be used as an accurate prediction of lens sharpness and contrast, or are there cases where real world image quality and their MTF charts vary significantly?

For example: based on the Canon MTF charts alone, could one accurately predict a significant difference in image quality (sharpness and contrast) between the 400mm DO ii and the 100-400 4.5-5.6L ii at 400mm?

The MTF Charts basically represent a perfect lens that has been properly assembled, calibrated, and as good as it can be.

As noted, MTF does not tell you everything, far from it.

The 400mm f/5.6L has been tested by many lens testers. Its a good lens, but nothing exceptional about it. For the price, its hard to beat. Its very close to the 100-400mm MK I, but has no IS and has faster autofocus. I preferred my 100-400L due to

1. IS
2. MFD
3. Same sharpness and reasonably fast AF.

Ryan85 · Dec 16, 2014

Thanks

ashmadux · Dec 16, 2014

Crop and Full frame night shooting is worlds apart.

Recently i put a 7d2 versus a 6d, long exposure waterfront cityscape. As good as the crops can be at low iso, it's not even close - FF dynamic range int low light is a wonder to behold.

But.......

Beware the Af of the 6d. It's pathetic.

infared · Dec 16, 2014

TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
infared said:

Great review...wish I hadn't read/watched...LOL!
I am sticking with my 85mm f/1.2L II.
Dustin...please do not do a comparison...just leave me in ever lasting ignorance!
That way I can still love the lens that I own.

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That is pretty much the way I felt about my beloved 135L after doing the Sonnar T 135 review.

Yes..Yes...I remember reading it! At least you could say that the 135L was less than half the price and has super fast AF....
My 85L II may be less than half the price..but the AF is turtle-like..at best!!!!! LOL! (I do still REALLY love that lens...it;s unique).

rickybo · Dec 16, 2014

hi to all, i'm a newbie and i've a question, a monitor like lilliput 668gl works in live view with the canon g 16?

AcutancePhotography · Dec 16, 2014

I am never surprised at the ways people come up with to defraud people.

antonioleandro · Dec 16, 2014

Thank you!

stein · Dec 16, 2014

Hi
if you can afford it -buy it!! I only have the first version and is very pleased, the new is even better!
I use it handheld a lot, even for a whole day shooting whales from small boats - no problem.
Attach a Common tern with old version 1.4x extender (since then bought the III ) on 7D
http://tromsofoto.smugmug.com/BirdsoftheNorth/Seabirds/i-G5F3PJH/5/X2/_MG_5351%20%282%29-X2.jpg

Northstar · Dec 16, 2014

My guess is 12-18 months for the 1dx ii.

I've seen the 1dx for around $5800 recently, where the 1dxii will probably cost $7500... So that's another consideration.

VoodooT · Dec 16, 2014

Canon have included exposure compensation whilst in manual mode when auto ISO is set, this feature was included a while ago to the 1DX via a firmware update.

On the 7D MK II the meter on the top LCD is only ever an exposure compensation indicator. When you are in full manual the light meter will show on the back LCD and in the viewfinder.

A light meter is not needed in any mode other than full manual as the camera will be trying to set the correct exposure - hence why you would need exposure compensation instead.

Maybe Canon didnt include the light meter on the top LCD as this could become confusing? (even more so

)

Joey · Dec 16, 2014

Ryan85 said:
I don't get the whole pancake lens thing. There so small on a dslr. Taking shots with them feels weird to me trying to use good form. To me why not just use a 24mm, 35mm or 50mm prime. I may be in the minority but there just not cup of tea

To me a pancake lens looks and feels odd - too darn small. Also I can't get on with the rebel cameras because the grip is too small and I find them awkward to hold. But I like to put the pancake 24mm on my 7DmkII and take the camera out on the streets. Limiting myself to a single angle of view and being able to shoot relatively unobtrusively (the pancake doesn't look like it's being 'pointed at' a subject like a longer lens does) I find exhilarating and it sometimes gets me great shots.

RGF · Dec 15, 2014

privatebydesign said:
RGF said:

Look at the Yen / Dollar The Yen is rather weak (you can get many more yen per dollar than six months or a year ago).

Canon can sell at a lower $ price and still get the same (or more) Yen.

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That only helps for things that cost Canon Yen, all the stuff they pay for outside Yen, like raw materials, shipping, everything made in Thailand and the other 'foreign' plants costs more because of the Yen slip. Of course companies like Canon should be hedging to mitigate the general exchange rate changes, but going either way has its drawbacks.

Raw materials are only part of the issue. Labor, R&D, marketing, admin, ... all add to COGS. These are mostly (exclusively) Yen based. Over all their production costs are (I suspect) relatively fixed, so the weak Yen is good, as we are finally seeing, for US consumers.

Ryan85 · Dec 15, 2014

TexPhoto said:
As others have said, this is a tough question. Both lenses have some real advantages. As I shoot sports the f2.8 is critical for me. I simply could not shoot night games with an f5.6 lenses. And I do sometimes ad the 1.4X converter to this lens.

Part of me wants to recommend some combination of both. 70-200 and a 400mm f5.6 prime? But that is probably not going to be in the budget.

For general photography and "ocational" wildlife I'm going to say 70-200 f2.8 and converter. I just think the 70-200 f2.8 should be in the bag of almost any photographer, it is such a useful lens.

+1

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