EOS 5D Mark IV Testing Has Begun [CR2]

bdunbar79 said:
I went off amazon.com sales data, which is public. Of course not all buyers went there to purchase it, but I thought it might be a good overall representation of sales distribution and would mirror the market, FAIRLY well.

Unfortunately not. Also, global sales do not follow US sales. Kakaku.com (Japan) gives us some guidance on the Japanese market (actually capturing a far wider market share than amazon.com in the US but in a far smaller market place). But again limited. EU camera body sales (largest of the three markets) info is really difficult to find. And what is rest of Asia buying?

Normally we should expect a Canon 5x to outsell a Nikon 8xx on the user basis alone. But the year the 800 and 5DIII were released Nikon's I/DSLR sales fared better (relatively) to Canon's. Since high end sales are much lower than consumer grade sales we do not know what roles the 5DIII and D800/E played in all this - if any.

I also guess 5DIII is selling better - especially because meanwhile there's a D810 out. But it remains an assumption.
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Review: Canon EOS 5DS R by PhotographyBLOG

PureClassA said:
You can't always compose a shot in the most ideal way. Many times it's because you just can't get close enough or you don't know precisely where your moving target may wind up (try shooting dancers in studio even). 50MP gives me the ability to shoot wider than I'd like to normally to ensure I get everything I want in frame, and them crop later to the composure I'd prefer without losing resolution. If I capture a dancer in the upper right of the frame but can center it in post and STILL have 20MP on her... hello. Yeah this is huge. Or hey, I shot this model/dancer in a full pose but I really like her facial expression in this and want to get a tighter headshot out of it... done. 50MP gives tons more flexibility to photographers than just simple bigger print sizes and looks-no-better-at-normalized-for-web end results

Ivan Muller said:
leGreve said:
the question is.... will anyone REALLY notice the difference, once you are done and saved as jpg in a web friendly size?

I seriously doubt it.

http://petapixel.com/2015/06/16/canon-5ds-and-5ds-r-initial-resolution-tests/

Of course you are right...but then if thats all we want to do with our images, I suppose a 8mp 'old' 20d would be more than good enough.
As far as I am concerned these megapixel monster are for guys that are careful with exposure and practice best photo techniques, don't mind using tripods, have fussy clients and want to print BIG...coming from a 4x5 film camera background back in the days this nifty fifty will be childs play!
Opps youve missed that dancer ......not as much crop as most imagine only what 1.6 linearly?
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Sony's RX100 IV and RX10 II Cameras Bring Professional Imaging Experience to Acclaimed Cyber-shot RX

Re: Sony's RX100 IV and RX10 II Cameras Bring Professional Imaging Experience to Acclaimed Cyber-sho


How so, they just came out with the $1,000 G3X. :-(

neuroanatomist said:
Tugela said:
Well done Sony. If only Canon could show a bit of vision, even a smidge :(

I'm not sure a $1000 point-and-shoot camera is in line with Canon's vision. :o

Still, I remain interested in the RX100 line.
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Sony announces new CMOS Image Sensors with Global Shutter

neuroanatomist said:
beforeEos Camaras said:
neuroanatomist said:
You wound me, sir. I don't have a sarcastic bone in my body.

really when did you become boneless?

Lol. Allow me to repeat what I said, with proper emphasis.

I don't have a sarcastic bone in my body. ;)

Odd, even my Sony sarcasm detector just ran out of dynamic range!
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5DS/R dynamic range comparisons

Search YouTube for Tony Northrup and 5DsR.
He tests the 5DsR against the D810.
Summary: 5DsR has more detail, overall. It has a bit more noise in the shadows than the D810, bit you can use noise reduction but still retain as much detail as the D810. Dynamic range is not as good as the D810, but better than 5D mark 3.
There is also a review on dpreview if I remember correctly. You can push the shadows more on the D810. 5DsR is an improvement over 5D mk3 and 6D
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Any thoughts on a 24-70mm f/2.8 III?

super_newbie_pro said:
Maybe need IS for the III ?

Adding IS resets the numbering scheme. Mark numbers are only used if all of the following are identical:

EF/EF-S/EF-M mount
Focal length
Aperture
L designation
IS presence
AF motor name

This is why, for example, the EF 50 f/1.8 STM is not the EF 50 f/1.8 STM III (even though it replaced the EF 50 f/1.8 II): new AF name (unnamed micromotor being replaced with STM) restarts the numbering scheme.
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Sigma 150-600 Sport image quality on TDP

Random Orbits said:
docsmith said:
Random Orbits said:
docsmith said:
Random Orbits said:
Perhaps because a f/6.3 lens won't perform well enough on existing bodies, whose non-center points are limited to f/5.6.

I had heard that and was concerned when I got my 150-600S. But I have checked and not noticed a problem with the non-center AF points.

On which bodies?

5DIII.

Thanks! How well does the 150-600S work as a walk-around lens? I'd opted for the 100-400 II as an upgrade to the original, but the 150-600S is significantly heavier. I've usually tied the BR strap to the L-bracket rather than the lens tripod ring because I prefer walking with the camera lens down, but I'm not sure if the L-bracket/body tripod socket would be strong enough to handle the larger weight.
It works. I have hiked wildlife preserves with it. I am not going to kid you and if a "walk around" lens is your main purpose, the 100-400 II may be a better option. But the 150-600S can fit it in my flipside 400AW when mounted to the 5DIII, but it is a bit tight. I also have it strapped to a BR using the strap mount on the 5DIII or foot of the 150-600S. If the strap mount, I usually hold the lens by the foot while walking. I haven't tried connecting to my L-bracket, so I can't really speak to that.
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Trailer for film festival - Mark III ML

Thanks a lot, Enrique and drjlo! Much appreciated :)

I used After Effects for both editing and grading. Almost the same as a more recent project/music video (an answer to a question regarding that project):

" I used firmware 1.1.3, with the nightly built of 7 August 2014 and RAWMagic to convert the MLVs. However, I wonder if that really matters. After importing the DNG seq in AE, I first rendered them to ProRes 444 (a workflow of Andrew Reids shooting guide). Then after importing the movs in AE, I used a combination of lot of effects such as Osiris LUT M31, FilmConvert, curves, Twixtor etc. Take a look at a discussion at Magic Lantern for some more info: magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14570.0"

Only the nightly built was an older version.

I also had a recent feature for this music video with some additional technical info:

http://www.directorsnotes.com/2015/06/11/zero-landscape-gonna-stop-killing/

I don't think the process is simplified, but with a little bit of routine, Magic Lantern works excellent.

please feel free to ask any other details.

Cheers,

Martijn
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What current Canon EF lens will work well with the new 5DS/5DSR?

neuroanatomist said:
tron said:
painya said:
Won't the 70-200 v1 be better? Isn't it sharper on a full frame?
Where did you read that? The 70-200 IS (v1) is much worse than 70-200 2.8 IS II and 70-200 2.8 (non-IS)

DxOMark said so. When challenged on that conclusion, they defended it stating there had been no error. A year later they silently updated their measurements of the 70-200 II, which changes the conclusion to agree with what everyone else in the world already knew, that the 70-200 II is clearly better.

Of course, DxOMark's measurements still show that the 17-40L is sharper than the 16-35/2.8 II with both wide open. :o ??? ::)

I remember the v1 and v2 fiasco. That was one of "the classics." One of my other favorites is the equal scoring of the Canon and Nikon 500mm lenses due to the superior DR of the D800, or how about the nifty fifty being better than the 600mm f/4L II IS. Or wait, there's just too many.
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Dear Sony RX100 Development Team

Am I alone in hoping for the following?

At the moment I carry my smart phone with me everywhere (Samsung Galaxy Note), but I am not overly happy with the images that it produces. They are OK but not what I want. I do not carry my 1D X and different lenses etc everywhere so here is what I would like:

I would like the RX100 (basically the best pocketable camera there is with all the IV specs) but with Android, so I can have whatsapp, a calculator, the weather apps, a phone, calendar, browser, alarm clock etc.

Basically I would like the RX100 to be my pocket camera which also works as my phone, rather than having to carry two things around.

I know battery life may be an issue, so I will gladly buy 1 perhaps even 2 extra batteries.

What do you think?

Oh, as you are combining the two I would gladly pay around US$1,000 - 1,500 for it as that is what I would probably spend on buying them separately. This is not about saving, it is about convenience and quality.

Lumix G7 with 16k Shutter Speed.

This isn't the first time we have had this conversation here. An actual mechanical shutter that reaches that speed would definitely be helpful. Or better yet, a global electronic shutter that goes faster than that would be even better.

To date, I've probably shot at least 8-10k images at 1/10000th and faster with my mirrorless rig. We haven't had very many rainy days here in California this year so we have had ample sunlight for a minimum of 8 hours everyday for a good while now. The type of sunlight that would require a faster shutter speed than 1/8000th at f1.2. I have been doing this with just an electronic shutter which causes problems depending on the type of movement in the scene. Either way, I have tons of shots captured above 1/16000th all the way up to 1/32000th.This has been one of the reasons I love this cam so much. Knowing that, I would love it even more if I were able to have those types of speeds on a mechanical shutter (or global electronic).

If I remember correctly, I posted samples in the other thread where this conversation was previously had.
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