snapshot said:

I had missed the H+ is 13 bits part :< I wonder how the read out speeds change with bit depth (double for each bit?). In any case, the read out speed of the electronic shutter is too slow for tennis, so I dont get to use 20fps mode.

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I was peeved when I couldn't find the bit depth information in the advanced user guide as well. @Neuro found it in the online specs website. Canon certainly left it under the *asterisk copouts :-(

I did some rough calculations and I think that the issue is the internal bus bandwidth... R3 can handle 30fps/14 bit/24mp which is about the same as 20fps/12 bit/45mp.The R5 @ 14 bit would be about 15% higher bandwidth.
Similarly, 30fps 8k raw (33mp) @10 bit video is also about the same bandwidth. 12 bit would have pushed it over the limit which appears to be ~11Gbps.
I can't see a logical reason why Canon would arbitrarily drop the bit depth for the R5 in ES mode otherwise.
Hopefully the Digic X version in the R5ii will have a different generation internal bus in it.

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I wrote it because I'm convinced Leica M cameras have reached an insane level of pricing, no longer matched by an equal reliability.
If I spend about $9000 on an M11 naked body, I expect the reliability of an M3 single or doublestroke.
The M11, despite being a fantastic instrument, is miles away from it. If you read the complaints about the (sometimes!) need to carry a pocket knife to lift the ISO wheel so you can change the value, that's where the fun ends. I could also mention the freezing issues, the more than lame repair department (4 months), its legendary bills etc...
So, I believe that a Canon body might be less glamorous for the collectors, but certainly represent a better value and, hopefully, better reliability. And the fabulous M lenses could still be used.
PS: The Leica Q3 is a great camera and, in my opinion, priced adequately.
PPS: What I wrote about reliability isn't valid for the Leica M240. Not a single issue in 8 years, and I used and abused it...
PPPS: Canon, if you don't produce an M lens compatible camera, I might, perhaps, someday, if I find the time, jump ship.

Brilliant photos. First one is my favourite.

Sigma's APS-C lenses are desperately needed for RF-S....And for full-frame, Anything below 100mm is nice addition to the RF line up.

20mm f1.4 is probably not going to have a RF L version, so sigma should given a green light to make a RF version.

Also, the Black Friday pricing is not yet live. Since the CR main page post on this topic seems to be AWOL, I will post this from another site:

Black Friday Discounts for 2023 – Up To 50%.

The DxO Black Friday deals for 2023 go live at 3:00 am EST on November 20th. The deals end on November 27th at 12:00 Am PST.

• DxO PhotoLab 7 -Regular $229 Black Friday Price $169 (includes DXO Prime XD)
• DxO PhotoLab 7 -Owner Upgrade from V 5 & 6 Regular $109 Black Friday Price $89
• DxO PureRAW 3 – Regular $149 Black Friday price $89
• DxO PureRAW 3 – Owner Upgrade from V 1 & 2 Regular $79 Black Friday Price $65
• DxO Nik Collection 6 – Regular $149 Black Friday price $99
• DxO Nik Collection 6 – Owner Upgrade from V 4 & 5 Regular $79 Black Friday Price $65
• DxO Filmpack Collection 7 – Regular $139 Black Friday price $89
• DxO Filmpack Collection 7 – Owner Upgrade from V 5 & 6 Regular $79 Black Friday Price $59
• DxO Viewpoint 4 Software – Regular $99 Black Friday price $49
• DxO Viewpoint 4 Software – Owner Upgrade from V 2 & 3 Regular $59 Black Friday Price $39

Looks like the 'up to 50% off' means less than 50% off in most cases. Only the Viewpoint 4 bought new gets that discount. Upgrading from PL6 to PL7 is only an 18% savings.

On the site there's currently an additional discount of $39 for upgrading both PL and Nik, we'll see if they keep that once the Black Friday discount starts.

... and the 200-800 has this long barrel front element with constant diameter before it gets thinner with the zooming barrel.
Definitely a 100-500.
But for sure, that guy would have been better off with a 200-800

What case mode are you using? FWIW, I found the 5D4's AF tracking and accel/decel tracking to be a bit on the sensitive side at the default "0" setting - when I set both to "-1", my hit rate did increase slightly. Especially with a scenario like this where the subject would be moving at a constant speed without too much variability.

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With RF-S 10-18 available now....I think going for that small lens is better than 15-30. 15-30 on R10 will become some standard zoom that's short and not bright

Del Paso said:

You misunderstood my noble intention, I commiserate with you. Your pain and sorrow are mine!

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In that case, I retract my slandering statement

I have a front filter (B+W clear, typically, but B+W UV on some lenses), and I clean that with a Rocket Blower then, if needed, a LensPen FilterKlear. For a lens without a front filter, I use the blower and a regular LensPen. If more is needed, I have Zeiss cleaning fluid that I use with a PecPad.

A little dust on the front of your lens will typically make no difference in your images.

I was working on course material for a history of photography, in the process of which I was checking out a book by Tom Ang (who actually lives in my area). He had dedicated a double spread in the book to the early days of DSLRs and featured the D30:



Intrigued I thought it would be great to find one as a prop for my course, so I went on line and found one on eBay for $60 from Japan UNUSED! Further inquiry elicited that the rear LCD was scratched during unpacking, so the camera was dumped in a storeroom until they were clearing out to move. With nothing to lose, I bought it and sure enough it was otherwise immaculate. I found another body with a good LCD and got Canon to switch parts to put the two together and got them to check it - sure enough it was unused.
So, I took it out for a spin with the EF 17-40L lens and was amazed at the performance. With such big photosites, the noise was negligible even in very low light as this example demonstrates. Taken hand-held in available light in a very dark pumping room.


17mm, f/5.6. 1/8sec, ISO-400


17mm, f/5.6, 1/8sec, ISO-400

Using EF 28135 IS USM, 75mm, f/5.6, 1/250sec, ISO-200

It was also interesting to see a video by the respected, and late photographer Michael Reichmann, doing a review of the camera. It is intriguing to see how it was seen at the time it was introduced. It is easy to look back in time and judge it in our contemporary context, but at the time it was the proverbial game-changer:
Michael Reichmann's Review

The Digic X Microcontroller SoC (that's not just a Microprocessor) family uses the same kernel features, but i assue the variants are basicly in the implemented subsystems like co-processors or specialized custom processing units on the chip. Well, a Pixel-Shift with a raw output would be great for me, but i assume, this needs to much processing load and consumes to much battery power. The R5 temperature development is well known since they was introduced into the marked and was several times a focus of a firmware revision. I would like to have such RAW Pixel Shift, but i also understand, that this needs more as just software hack.

neuroanatomist said:

I ordered mine 2 minutes after the announcement, so I'm hoping to get it from the first batch in December, assuming Canon ships on time.

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Lucky you!
Fortunately, I'm not really in a hurry, mountain hiking season starts end of March, or rather mid-April. I should get it in time...
Normally, I would have waited for serious reviews, but I'm confident this lens will keep its promises. I want it so much!
Much more than Tamron's beautiful 35-150

mxwphoto said:

Credit given when it's due, the A9 III really seems like a game changer.

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I don't see it that way tbh. It's a notable achievement from a technical point of view, but it only impacts certain types of photography; I personally don't think I would get much benefit.

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Nope. List here is $999. It’s been $800 recently, and CPW’s street prices are unadvertised discounts so just under $700 is reasonable.

The way CPW works is you submit an online form with your contact info, CPW connects you with the seller (a major US or Canadian retailer), and you pay that seller. I used CPW years ago for my EF 11-24/4, the seller was Adorama.

Just did that, US$689 is the confirmed price for the 800/11 from a Canadian retailer.

Of course, there’s the hood, a 95mm clear filter and an Arca plate to add.

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The digits were transposed for my one. The third party hood works fine.

EricN said:

I didn't buy an iMac, but couldn't you purchase an external floppy drive?

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Yes, you could.

DhlcadR6 said:

Can anyone enlighten me why need TS on telephoto when UWA is much more needed?

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angelisland said:

What would people use a 180mm or 200mm tilt shift lens for?
I know people using them for architecture, products…but 200mm? Just curious.

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To tilt the line of focus from perpendicular to the optical axis of the lens.

For example, you're shooting high school football from the sideline and you want a photo showing the offensive and defensive lines engaging shortly after the snap. If you're behind the offense on the left side of their formation the end closer to your sideline is much closer to you than the other end. If the players on your end are the point of focus then the other end will be fairly blurry at f/2.8 (It's a night game and you have to use ISO3200 at f/2.8 just to make 1/800 or 1/1000 possible). Or vice-versa.

Now take a lens with sideways tilt (sometimes called swing) to the left. The "plane" of focus will shift to closer on the left side of the image and further on the right side of the image and more of the line of scrimmage that is angled away from you on the right will be in focus.

The reason I know this is because after my 70-200/2.8 took a nasty fall it had a pronounced tilt that was mostly to the left. I had to shoot around it until I could send it in to CPS.

Compare the grass on the lower left to the grass on the lower right. Then compare the trees behind everything on the left to the right. Autofocus was aimed on the sign attached to the shipping container in the center of the frame. [Apparently the EXIF info is stripped by CR. Canon EOS 7D Mark II + EF 70-200mm f/2.8 L IS II. 70mm, ISO100, f/2.8, 1/5000. This was one of several test shots I included on a CD-R when I sent the lens to Canon Factory Service.]




CPS sent it back as sharp and straight, if not sharper, than when it was new. The description of the repair said "electronically adjusted". I'm guessing they biased the "neutral" position of the IS group. The reason I'm guessing that is about a year or so after that my IS starting acting up. When the camera/lens was held at certain angles with respect to gravity the IS would vibrate continuously and rapidly. Looking through the viewfinder made whatever was in the frame look like it was shaking violently. This progressed until there were ever increasing positions where this occurred and I had to send the lens to CPS again to get the IS unit replaced.

I'm excited to find out what they will do.

john1970 said:

How exactly is Canon behind? The R5 was the first FF Camera to shoot FF 8K RAW video (albeit with heating issues that were address through firmware). The Canon R3 was the first FF Camera to shoot at 30 fps with full 14-bit RAW files and frankly it still is until the Sony A9III becomes available in Q1 2024!

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trollogic?

That's some great trivia!

Some of the Apple aficionados out there may be familiar with the backstory of the iconic warning sound, at least with one of the many versions of the story. The true version was shared by the developer who created that and other system sounds.

Back at the end of the 80’s when System 7 was being written (two versions later than System 5 that came with my first Mac), Apple Computer was being sued by Apple Corps (The Beatles’ music company) over their name, so their lawyers told them to steer clear of anything to do with music. The developer made a xylophone sound he wanted to call Chime, the lawyers said ‘too musical’. He then jokingly proposed ‘Let It Beep’ before deciding on Sosumi, as in So Sue Me, in honor of the ongoing litigation and the name stuck.

Now, what the heck does any of that have to do with photography? That developer also created the System 7 sound for a screen capture. That same sound is used as the ‘shutter sound’ for the billions of iPhones out there taking pictures.

The source? A recording of the shutter sound of his own Canon AE-1.



*popularity as determined by shutter sound, based on research conducted by @neuroanatomist on November 8, 2023

john1970 said:

I doubt if the R5Mk2 with have a a GS, but would anticipate a stacked sensor. If the R5Mk2 is a non-stacked sensor it would be a disappointment.

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non-stacked = less sport-centric. If it's giving a7r5 a good fight,I don't see why anyone will criticize it much with price in consideration. R5 hold against a1 well in sport events because the mechanical shutter is still 10+fps.

DeanMassy said:

will it be possible to get the R50 as body only? I would not want to shell out for a kit lens that I have absolutely no use for…

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It's been available as body only for many months. Camera came out in Feb 2023.