rear gelatin filter

sama said:
Anybody here have the experience to use gelatin filter on a Canon 17 40 L ? May be some never realize that there is a built-in slot on this lens.

What is the purpose of this design as people mentioned that gelatin filter will probably degrade IQ badly. others stated "As long as it isn't scratched, a proper optical-grade gelatin filter (like Kodak) will be optically superior to any front-mounted glass or plastic filter."

Please share your views, experience etc.
I think with the slimline filters that are now available, there is less need to use one, unless wider or due to a bulging front element. I certainly didn't feel the need to use one when I had my 17-40.
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Lens recommendations for upcoming road trip and beyond?

sjschall said:
and there me be a small possibility that I may end up treating myself to a little 'souvenir' while out there... maybe 85mm f1.8?

You should hit up the B&H store while you're in NY, if you have the time. Definitely a cool spot to look around and try out gear.

Thanks for the tip sjschall! Just had a look at their website and indeed this looks close to photo equipment Nirvana.
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70D Sample photos ISO 100-25600

FTBPhotography said:
Ever shot 1600 speed 35mm film? Probably not. My 7D easily has a 2 stop advantage over 35mm film.

I shot at iso 1000 :-) ... but then the print was only 9x13 cm max, so it didn't really matter. You have to correlate noise to the camera resolution and the export size, the current crop sensors only can make use of the full res at low iso but at high iso like the marketing-induced 25600 you have to downscale. Also the color rendition is degraded starting even at medium iso in contrast to a ff sensor.

That doesn't make the 70d a bad camera, or my 60d, or your 7d - but @iso800+ the noise starts killing detail @100% crop, though of course I can shoot action @iso3200 if the export is web sized.
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Will the dual-pixel AF make it to the FF bodies?

Firebird said:
Thanks for your reply! :)

But would professional cinematographers use DLSR-Bodies at all? Wouldn't they use dedicated movie cameras?

Professional film makers and video makers have been using DSLR's for video since shortly after the 5D MK II came out.

The reasons are many, but it boils down to Technical capability for the cost. A whole industry supporting DSLR's and video has been launched, Canon is selling $50,000 video lenses, and has a large support facility in Hollywood for film makers. Its big business, and rapidly growing. The dual pixel capability along with touch screens means that a high priced focus puller may no longer be needed, just touch the actor or spot on the video LCD and the camera focus will smoothly shift to that point. Add in facial recognition, and clever and innovative people and even more amazing things will be possible.
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New Lens Announcement Tonight [CR3]

sagittariansrock said:
neuroanatomist said:
sagittariansrock said:
By the way, what surprises me is that Canon still makes and sells the old, crappy 75-300 and even more surprising, even people using Rebels buy them!

I think a lot of people buy them - because it's cheap, common in retail stores (Target sells them for example, but not the 55-250), and because 300mm sounds better than 250mm, it's a popular lens.

I had one of those lenses for about five minutes. I am super steady in my hands, but trying to handhold that @ 300mm (480mm equiv) is near impossible!
I guess so, and somehow Canon manages to convince people it is okay to get a non-IS telephoto lens on a crop-sensor camera for people who might not have plenty of light all the time. It took a lot of convincing to get my brother-in-law to buy the 55-250 instead.
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Image Review Magnification Controls on 5D3

I must say i can't imagine using the old way anymore, and I felt that way after about, hm, oh, 3 minutes of owning the 1dX. I set the "SET"-button to jump directly to 100% at the used focus point and never looked back. a VERY good decision by Canon. That not all new cameras run the same feature is pretty hopeless if anyone wants a camera number 2 to use along side one that does.
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We want more EF-S lens

moreorless said:
Personally I'd say the most obvious gap is a wider prime, either something like a 30mm 1.4 ala Sigma or a 20-25mmish pancake to go with the SL-1/100D.

I have my doubts as to whether theres a market for a 50-150mm f/2.8, I think crop users tend to want the extra reach so will go for a FF 70-200mm f/2.8 instead, as I understand it going EF-S isn't going to effect the size/price of tele's much.

One zoom that I think might be interesting is something between your typical normal and UWA ranges. Tokina seem to be targeting this with there new 12-28mm, I think something like a 14-35mm could be very popular if the price wasn't too high.
It is. Canon offers fast primes that are wide angle on APS-C ... EF14mm f2.8 $ 2100, also TS-E 17mm f4 $ 2300. I do not seem suitable to the purpose of the user 7D, for example. Tokina and Sigma has experienced major innovations in this area. Maybe a 15-45mm F2.8 costing $ 800?
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Returned my D600. Thinking of a 6D. How do they compare? IQ? DR?

dilbert said:
So is it a dust issue or an oil issue? The post is about dust and the link to Nikon provides advice for dealing with dust (which is a problem for all interchangeable lens cameras.) It may be that people who are having problems with oil don't recognise it for being such but it is wrong to think that Canon DSLRs do not have dust problems or to say that they do not.

When did I state Canon sensors don't get dust on them? The link is talking about a known issue of the D600, not a 'problem for all interchangeable lens cameras' (having your car run out of gas is a problem for all cars, did your car maker issue a service advisory for your specific model telling you to put gas in the tank? ::) ).

The 'customer friendly' Nikon folks of whom you're so fond may be slow (they take weeks to service a lens), but they aren't stupid enough to call it oil. So, they state, "Some D600 users have reported the appearance of random spots on their images which is generally attributed to the natural accumulation of dust...It has come to our attention that, in some rare cases, they may be reflected noticeably in images and removal may be difficult using normal measures." Since 'normal measures' are usually sufficient for removing dust, they're clearly not talking about dust alone.
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Recommended lenses for travel to Central America

VelocideX said:
I'm from Australia... Central America is not that close :P
Touché. If you are going to make it a photo-focused honeymoon, take your good equipment and just be smart. At the resorts where I stay, its not uncommon to see tourists with 1-series bodies hanging around their necks, so you won't be the only person there with nice gear. My vote goes for the simple and effective combo of 24-70 plus 70-300. I agree a fill flash is a good idea.
VelocideX said:
The consensus seems to be to take a telephoto over the UWA, which is helpful to know.
When visiting the jungle with waterfalls, caves, large Mayan complexes, and whatnot - there are ample opportunities to use the UWA. But if you want to pack light, just reply on the wide end of the 24-70.
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EF 200mm f2 , how much do you use it and for what?

Haven't heard back from Focal about the focusing issue, but after extensive trial and error I landed at+9 which looks great at distances. And what a lens, I don't think I want to keep the 70-200, I would regret mounting it instead of the 200 every time, lol.

Anybody have a tip for a lens case? Which holds only the lens as snug as possible. I like the Lowepro lens cases.
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AF questions

Meh said:
Well, there is either 1) something wrong with the lens, 2) something wrong with the body, or 3) something wrong with the particular combination of body + lens. Or you are just being punished by camera fairies for some offense you have caused them.

I'm going with the camera fairies. ;)

Thanks for the ideas. I do feel that I can understand some of the issues better now.
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Why full frame cameras 'expose' the flaws in 'lesser' lenses?

Pi said:
Terry Rogers said:
I read that modern full frame cameras 'expose' or 'reveal' the flaws in lesser lenses more than crop cameras. To me this doesn't make sense save a couple caveats.

There is a good reason that it does not make sense to you because it is false, in the majority of the cases.

+1

FF sensors will always produce a sharper image on a given EF lens. I would not believe everything I hear. Its true that there is more viginetting.
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