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NYCPHOTO · Dec 7, 2012

Love to have some Gura Gear ;D

Dec 7, 2012

thanks so much for the information!

looking into the camera once more!

christianronnel · Dec 7, 2012

Dylan777 said:
christianronnel said:

infared said:

pierceography said:

Also given that Canon is now enforcing its MAP, it's unlikely we're going to see the occasional drops in price that often come a half year or so after new product launches.

If I could get this lens for under $1,800, I would. But assuming I could sell my current 24-70mm for ~$1,300, I'm not really willing to pump anymore than $500 into a focal length I already am perfectly happy with. I'd rather get a new lens.

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Well...I bought a 5DIII for $3499 6 months ago...and I have seen them selling as low as $800 less than I paid for it recently. I have never seen a camera body drop that much that fast ???......and since I just purchased a 24-70 II...I am expecting that to follow suit!

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The price dropped as much as $800 because it was overpriced probably by that much. I got mine 4 months ago and paid full price. I have no regrets because the camera is worth every penny, and because a lot can happen in 4 months. I just purchased the 24-70II last Saturday and paid $2300+ CA tax. So far not regretting the decision yet. The lens is really sharp. Although the build quality is not as good as the 1st version. It's very plasticky and I don't feel comfortable that it will survive a short drop. My copy has an indentation on the focusing ring, I'm not sure if that is normal so I'm going to have to exchange it for another one.

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Hi christianronnel,
This is Dylan from Fountain Valley, CA. Try Crutchfield next time. They offer reward point on all purchases. I bought my 5D III , 16-35 II and 24-70 II from them. I currently have over 10K reward points with them(over $500 in cash value). No sale tax and free shipping. Customer service at Crutchfield is awesome. Yes...they are Canon authorized dealer.

Hi Dylan, Thanks for the info. I could actually buy it from B&H and get 2% reward and it's also tax free. I like supporting the local economy, although CA sales tax is really making it difficult to support local businesses and mom&pop shops.

Richard8971 · Dec 7, 2012

OK, so I have enough AA chargers and I have enough AA's to make it worth the investment. (I own dozens of NiMh AA's) I have been using rechargeable AA's for years and there are always enough charged and ready to go at any given time. I keep two boxes, one marked "charged" and one "discharged". Costco here sells bulk packs of Sanyo Eneloop batteries cheap.

So, are the packs worth it? I am not talking about the "time" spent recharging batteries as it really isn't an issue to me. It takes only a few seconds to pop 4-8 AA's in the charger(s) before I head to bed, if I so happen to have any in my "discharged" box that need refreshing.

I am refering to the "bulk" of the AA's power vs that of the sealed packs.

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Ryan_W · Dec 6, 2012

unfocused said:
Ryan_W said:

Well it's about time. I'm just getting into speedlites and am not interested in:

1.) Spending $1,200+ for a two light kit, or
2.) Buying a bunch of optical-only flashes and being restricted to line of sight.

A 4XX RT flash, if miracles exist, will be priced at or below $399 and I'll be able to afford two for the price of one 600RT.

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The 4XX RT flash, when it is released, will almost certainly not have a transmitter. Add in another $300 for that.

Right, but neither would the 600's - I can't avoid that cost, which is why I'm happy to save some money for a lesser flash. Valid point though - you have to include the transmitter with the kit and it's way, way too expensive.

JoeDavid · Dec 6, 2012

I talked with Norman's (USA) and they said late December or early January before they expected to start seeing them come in...

R1-7D · Dec 6, 2012

trygved said:
It is funny to me that a camera chosen for the official presidential portrait is evaluated not even 4 years later for pro-worthiness.

I agree, especially since the 5D2 and 5D3 deliver EXACTLY the same image quality in RAW. People go to great lengths to claim there's a difference, but I'm afraid there just isn't. Only Jpegs will look better thanks to the new processor and in-camera image processing, which is what most websites shoot in to promote the new tech.

The 5D2 is by no means the better camera between the 5D2 and 5D3 now, but its still as every bit as good as it was when it was released four years ago in terms of IQ.

K-amps · Dec 6, 2012

I owned all 3. Only have the 180L left.... I felt it was sharper than the other 2. However it is a tad heavy and yes my best shots are using it on a tripod.

Axilrod · Dec 6, 2012

This isn't Reddit man, this forum moves at a much slower pace than some, definitely too slow to warrant "bumping" twice in 10 minutes.

As for your question, I think the 6D would be adequate for what you're trying to do. Try out that with the 24-105 or 24-70 and just go from there, should be more than enough to keep you busy for a while.

K-amps · Dec 6, 2012

Kai made the 6D seem like Monkey Vomit.

dlleno · Dec 6, 2012

striking global economic parallels

skitron · Dec 6, 2012

dlleno said:
interesting observation skitron . whether its related or not, Roger over at lensrentals has done extensive testing on the AF accuracy ,and measures this via standard deviation of AF accuracy. His work showed that that auto focus of the 5d2 and 50d to be in the same ballpark. this makes me wonder of the AF "confirmation" behavior is different..

http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2012/08/01/autofocus-reality-part-3b-canon-cameras

phase detection AF accuracy of the 6D was measured as being similar to the 5D2

http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2012/11/30/autofocus-reality-revisited-how-does-the-Canon-eos-6d-measure-up

just FYI this is just interesting stuff

I saw Roger's stuff. The one thing I don't know about his test is whether he was always focusing "a single direction" or "both directions".

I was pretty surprised by the 50D performance since it had a band equvalent to about 7 AFMA clicks that it would confirm in. You could literally see it go OOF in the view finder (f1.4 so very shallow DOF) while very slowly turning the manual focus and it just kept on confirming, LOL. Who knows, maybe a bad body? I'll definitely check the 6D tomorrow for it, I doubt it will be like that, but it will be checked non the less.

7enderbender · Dec 6, 2012

crasher8 said:
After all the rebates, it's 199 from B&H, I think I'd be insane to not get this as I cannot get calibrated to my only local lab as well as I'd like. I use Epson 3880's at school off and on with impeccable results but I don't always have access.

Hmmmmmmmm….

They'd actually have to pay me to get into that game. I got one of those for free when I bought my 5DII and a few other things. Went right up on ebay without even opening the box.
Bummer about not getting things worked out with your local lab though. I've been doing ok with MPix and WHCC - an even the occasional quick Walmart print for what it is.
To me all this is still the biggest draw-back of digital photography. Ink-jet printouts are no real photographs in my book and they still lack in quality compared to my film prints from the 80s and early 90s before quality started to go south thanks to the scan-and-print approach that was adopted later.

Jamesy · Dec 6, 2012

pwp said:
killswitch said:

AdamJ said:

Yongnuo YN-622C transceivers: $90 per pair, complete functionality, perfect operation. Why pay more?

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I confirmed they do exactly whatever PW's Flex/Min can. ^_^

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That sounds GREAT! When you say they can do exactly what the PW Flex/Mini can do, does that include the brilliant Optimized High Speed Sync http://www.pocketwizard.com/inspirations/technology/fp_sync_hss/

Quoting from the PW website, "HSS is a battery hog as it needs a lot of power to pulse the light. Through extensive experimentation, we found a way to reduce the total power used while giving you more power, and thus more light, when you need it. This means more light (which equals greater working distance), faster recycling times and more flashes per battery set when shooting in Canon's HSS/FP Flash mode."

If it does this Yongnuo will win a LOT of new business. I'm first in line...

-PW

I believe, The 622c`s implement standard Canon wireless HSS, I doubt PW can give more power while using less battery but I suppose it is possible. Most of these radio systems just interpret and re-transmit the Canon optical/IR signals, I didn't think PW was any different.

Here is a pretty extensive review/discussion on the 622c's:
http://www.flickr.com/groups/strobist/discuss/72157631348234978/

For the money I can overlook the limitations of the 622c's. The exciting thing is there are a number of great systems out there now and more to come.

schmidtfilme · Dec 6, 2012

Bosman said:
At this point getting a 5DM3 makes more sense being that its only $800 or so more unless the little wifi and gps thing floats your boat.

How does this comment make any sense? If you are a millionaire I agree. For normal people it totally doesn't make any sense at all. It is one third more. You can get an additional DX body or a great lense for that difference.

schmidtfilme · Dec 6, 2012

jamiegila said:
Right, thanks for the helpful videos and details from the manual, I get the sense that the canon mobile app has not yet worked the video out (aka crippled), although it doesn't make a lot of sense why given that it's very much in control of all the camera's functions, and EOS Utility allows you to shoot video, no problem (no digital zoom possible on the T3i).

Given that there are non-Canon apps that also allow control over the camera, including video like http://dslrcontroller.com/ with a wired connection, my guess is that someone, and maybe eventually Canon, will come up with a great iPad app that will allow remote video shooting.

In the mean time, I wonder if it would work to turn on Live View so you can monitor the focus and exposure on your iPhone or iPad, then when you want to trigger the video, you do so manually on the camera. Although, this wouldn't allow truly remote video shooting, it would likely work just fine for most applications where you just want to use the iPad as an off camera monitor and controller. This does not work on EOS Utility as far as I can tell, but maybe there's a way to allow control from both the computer and the camera.

The camera does turn off movie shooting when wifi is enabled. It does not seem to be an issue with the EOS remote.

Mt Spokane Photography · Dec 5, 2012

Tristan944 said:
It's been my experience that Canon "rebates" are fake, in that they save you no money. When I was buying my 7D + 18-135mm kit, a $300 rebate did not change the price. Same for the 70-200mm f4 is usm I just bought. Before the rebate the price on Amazon was $1200. Once the $150 rebate started, Amazon showed an MSRP or $1350 and sold it for $1200. The "rebate" wasn't a rebate. It was a marketing ploy to make people think the price has been lowered, when in reality, its the same price as before the rebate.

Now that Canon has MAP Pricing, the Rebates are real. Canon has always required that Rebates be given based on the MSRP, and, in the past, that has indeed resulted in higher prices at discount stores.
However, thats not the case any more.
$2099 for a 70-200mm MKII lens is a good deal, but I bet I can find one either for less, or in a package deal before the end of the year.

RustyTheGeek · Dec 5, 2012

robbymack said:
Kingnog said:

robbymack said:

funny you ask this as I have been walking around a lot with my 70-200 and not bothering to take any other lens with me and using my iphone as my wide angle camera. Seems to work for me, IQ is on par with just about any other mid range PS out there plus it has the advantage of being very light and something Id take with me anyway. It also is the best PS on the market for taking the photograph, doing some quick pp through snapseed and off to my facebook or flickr accounts. But if that doesn't work for you I'd invest in the 17-55 f2.8 IS over any of the wide to normal primes especially on APS C. Its way more flexible and you don't lose much if anything in the IQ department. My 17-55 was glued to my 7d.

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Now that's just crazy talk right there! Kudos to you sir for keeping things in proper perspective!

If you're taking photos with facebook or flickr as the only location of the end-product, you don't need a DSLR.

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...you see I was simply comparing an iphone to a mid range PS and noting the benefits that you can fire it off to facebook or flickr with the swipe of a finger. Different strokes for different folks, I enjoy the portability of the iphone and not carrying around a bag full of lenses. I know this may be sacrilegious to some but sometimes I don't even bring a camera on an outing as I enjoy the company of my wife and kids a lot more than taking photos

Chuck Alaimo · Dec 5, 2012

kyle77 said:
Nice shots Chuck Alaimo, the 85 1.8 does appear to be a beastly little lens, but ever since I tried out an 85 one point oh-my-gosh-that's-a-sexy-lens two at a camera store, I've had severe lens acquisition syndrome. But I'll definitely give the 1.8 a look before I sell a kidney.

The new sigma 35mm 1.4 was also mentioned here. My first thought when I saw that lens was that it looks like a Zeiss and at $899 it isn't too bad, but I've read reports saying it blows the Canon away in terms of sharpness but it's lacking in the bokeh department.

if you want it...lol..won't stop ya... in fact... snag this used one!

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/800909022-USE/Canon_1056b002_EF_85mm_f_1_2L_II.html

That'll save ya a pretty penny!

killswitch · Dec 5, 2012

neuroanatomist said:
When you read some things on the Internet, it's best to take them with a grain of salt. When reading KR, you just need a few more grains.

+1 HAHAHAHA....I literally roared in laughter. Good one neuro.

xps · Dec 5, 2012

pwp said:
Another strong vote for the Canon G15. It's my next purchase. There's a very recent review on the G15 at DP Review that you should read. The Canon S110 is worth throwing into the mix. Its lens is not as bright and it doesn't go as wide as the G15, but it does have distinct advantage of being smaller than many smartphones. If you feel you wife would be more likely to take it with her all the time if it was purse size, then maybe the excellent S110 is the one to go for.

Remember you're buying for HER...this is not a toy for you. Think about the way she is likely to use it and locate the camera that ticks the most boxes for HER. Is she a novice? What will she do with her images? Make large prints? Put them on Facebook or Flickr galleries? Store and view them on her iPad? And so on...

Be honest in this appraisal, buy accordingly and she'll love you for it.

For your weekends away I guess there is a good chance you'll have your DSLR with you if something totally awesome comes up.

-PW

+1. Works fine.

Eos M: For this price the AF is toooooooo slooooooooow. Sorry, but for 1000€ (22mm), I want to have more AF performance. IQ was really good

pwp · Dec 5, 2012

kubelik said:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canon-powershot-g15/5

if you go to mid-page-ish, there's a section on it. it's not entirely clear, they say it can shoot 1.1 fps RAW+JPG until the card is full, but the shooting speed depends on zoom length and "other settings", which is pretty vague. in high speed mode, they say for every 10 shots it takes 5 seconds for the buffer to clear.

Thanks, yes I saw the DP Review piece...it's not that clear is it? Though that suggests the G15 has reasonable processing power for a P&S.
I'm not expecting the same speed as my 1D MkIV! Just enough to be useful.

-PW

thelebaron · Dec 5, 2012

Ray2021 said:
Ok but all things considered, 6d is a slapdash quickie response from canon to nikon's latest lower cost FF entry. At best, a staving move, not a full fledged defense on canon's part.

As more reviews come in, expect an equally mad dash race among retailers to 6D's final price resting point -I will spare repeating the number here . In months, not a year.

At that price point it will be a good value and competent performer. But by no means is it a 5D3 competition.

How do you get this at all? I dont think canon does anything slapdash, it took them a good while to release the eos m. The cameras are similar, its not like the 6d is falling apart due to being rushed out the factory(at least no bad reports just yet). If you think its slap dash due to the DR, I think that nikon has just won this round fair and square. Or due to things like less af points, less mp, only 1 sd slot etc, Id say those are conscious decisions, not that they ran out of time designing it..

jonathan7007 · Dec 5, 2012

Lumiquest made a 5"x7" speedlite softbox for direct attachment whose shape at the bottom allowed the Canon sensor to measure the scene. Velcro on the head needed as with so many other modifiers. I have one. It folds into a very compact 5x7x0.5. Easy to throw in my bag.

The rectangle seen in the attached photo embedded in the white front panel is designed to better diffuse the light coming out of the head. I have opened panels on this ti allow light out the side or top, but rarely.

I do not know if this is still sold.

jonathan7007

AdrianAllen · Dec 5, 2012

Axilrod said:
Can you not get in on the B&H 60D deal ($899 for 60D+18-135 and a few other things)?

I would if only I could, but I live in Europe. So it's a no go. ATM that said set costs around 1000euro + 50euro rebate, that's good enough for me.

Marsu42 said:
Thus dust sealing is more important to me, and in this category even the 60d should do ok (unless non-sealed lenses, esp. zooms which will attract dust and sand like a magnet).

Dust sealing is more than enough for me too. And I wouldn't also be afraid if I would be caught out even for a while under a slight drizzle.*according to the reviews, that is*

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