GmwDarkroom said:

Knee pads, elbow pads, a surface to lie on

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Another +1 ... I use this method when shooting in the snow lying or kneeling on the ground, and even in good weather for protection from hard surfaces (knees weren't built to hold your weight, floor tiler know that).

I'm not happy with Canon's delay and delay and delay either

Many thanks for the links.....

i got two off the top of my head....

the first i came across was actually when i was working at a commercial lab. i ran all the E6 and C41 film so i saw ALOT of photography from many sources. one memorable roll came through with a 3 shot series that just dropped my jaw. 1st shot was bride and groom coming out of the church with arms raised about to walk down the steps (see where this is going?). 2nd shot everyone starts throwing rice, grooms arms still in the air and smiling....bride has started to stumble and is going down. 3rd shot everyone faces show realization of what disaster is about to happen, grooms face has an "oh @#%&" look and his arm is being pulled down as he starts to stumble while the bride has both arms completely outstretched and her face about an inch off the ground about to eat some serios pavement. there was no 4th shot.

the second instance i was a 2nd shooter on. we were at the brides place with her getting ready. the flowers arrive and are placed on the coffee table. the main shooter starts shooting the bouquet and arranges some small candles that were lit on the table around the flowers (mind you they were already there and lit...we didnt initiate that). she finishes up and goes back to shooting the bride. a couple minutes later someone comments on smelling something burning...we all start looking around and then suddenly POOF! brides bouquet bursts into flames. we scrambled to put it out and with some creative trimming and rearrangement the bride still had a bouquet.

dickgrafixstop said:

You questions begs two more
1.) Why would Canon want to partner with Zeiss who might well make a better lens?
2.) Why would Zeiss want to hook up with a turkey like the Canon M?

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1. They wouldn't.

2. A zeiss lens would almost certainly be MF, thereby negating the main critque folk who haven't actually used an m have about the m. As they say in Scotland.. Were you actually at the game caller?

Very nice, looking forward to the 3rd one ...and thank you for the appreciation at the end. That's very kind of you.

I use the SunPak RD2000 virtually all the time with all my cameras, esp the full frame bodies with no on board flash. I too have noticed the ETTL to be flaky on the 6D. I emailed Sally Wall at TocadAmerica, the american distributor of this flash. She informed me that they are still waiting on the firmware update for the 6D. When that happens, you will likely need to send it in to be updated. FWIW, Tocad is responsive and has always provided good service and support. Sally's email is swall <at> tocad.com

Good luck!

While the lengths of the 16-35 and the 135 L are close, the position and diameter of the focus ring is different. You might borrow or rent one before taking the plunge.

None.

Sometimes I enjoy reading a militant, rambling rant. Mostly however, really great stuff here.

Dylan777 said:

6D + 50mm f1.4 + 85mm f1.8 or 135L

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I'd go this route. Fast primes first. But depends on your type of photography.

Bought the 28 /2.8 non IS for the 30D back in 2011. Also worked quite well on the 5D3. Much lens for the money.

Lenscracker said:

I have a Sigma 24mm F/1.8. I like it enough that I actually sold my Canon 24-70mm F/2.8 L lens. The Sigma is better at F/1.8 than the Canon is at F2.8 at 24mm. My Sigma 50mm f1.4 is better at f1.4 than the Canon was at 2.8 and my Sigma 70mm F2.8 is better wide open than the Canon was at wide open 70mm.
The Sigma 70mm is really clunky and noisy but the image quality is superb. The Sigma 24 is also a terrific close up lens. I also use it at night on a tripod on the floor of my boat to capture night fishing action (with intervalometer). It is far superior to any of the zooms I have owned so far. However, I have not compared it directly to my Canon 16-35L II at f2.8.

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Very helpful post. Thank you so much! Much different to what photozone.de wrote about the siggy WA primes.

I will point out that the 70-300L is shorter (retracted) than the 70-200/4L - it fits vertically in many bags whereas a 70-200/4 would need to lay flat and take up two 'spaces' in the bag.

richlondoner said:

I will also be taking a 10-22 or the new 16-35.

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The 10-22 is an ultrawide zoom, the 16-35 is a wide-to-normal zoom (unless you're also bringing a FF camera for the 16-35). I'm not sure one is a substitute for the other.

IMO, the best APS-C standard zoom for travel is the 15-85.

agierke said:

never ever ever let anyone else (especially airline personnel) handle your cameras or lenses.

ever.

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So how do you ship them to Canon for repair?

optikus said:

Harry Muff said:

The advice I always give to people is simply to pretend they are holding a rifle. Seems to help them.

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Exactly that is, what I was told when starting to use longer lenses.

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Probably the NRA start a "shooting is good for your health" campaign :-> ... over here in Germany though there's a definitive lack of gun proliferation, not to my dismay as I might add, but the analogy is still valid and helpful.

G-V said:

Use a tripod ;D

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And tell all animals to please pose right in front of it in the correct distance and height ...

... fyi all: Yesterday I observed how I hold the camera and when, and with the great help from this thread imho my problem is a problem of these factors, I am confident it can be fixed:

1. Wrong left hand position when holding the lens & too little support from the left arm. Unfortunately, this really only works when holding the lens standing, is awkward when lying on the ground and not working at all when doing something else with your left hand (like supporting yourself or holding a flash which I often do).

2. Holding the camera only in the right hand when walking or not shooting, I need to put it in the other hand as often as possible and/or use a strap to lighten the load on the fingers

3. Unbalanced, heavier equipment: My problems only arose after buying a heavy lens and a large flash with flash bracket that puts more downward and rotational stress on my hand, at and the same time the hand strap didn't fit anymore worsening the problem - so at least need to get the hand strap attached again. With just a 60d+40/2.8 pancake lens it'd be a different story altogether...

Could the right photo have been done, or almost done, with an iPhone? Not saying it was, just wondering how close any of you think a smartphone could get to that (assuming the person shooting it was the least bit skilled as a photographer).

I get your point that the problem is the photographers were fired, and thus non-photographers are now responsible for taking pictures. I saw one of them interviewed on tv a couple of weeks ago. He was very passionate about his work.

The problem is, newspapers pretty much everywhere are losing money. Isn't the Sun-Times also? Explains why they would fire employees such as photographers. Then turn around and pretend they're being trendy by handing out iPhones to reporters...It's a shame the government can't do the same thing with their employees. Fire 90% of them, then pay the remaining ones a one time salary in the form of a smartphone...with no service plan included.

5D3 have abberation correction, so 24-105 should be fine for video, no need to apply correction later.
I don't know how good is IS in 24-105, but I own 100L and hybrid IS in it (similar to 24-70 f4) helps a lot for video, while on monopod or even handheld. As for wide end I got 24IS in march, and still impressed how good it is. And if 24-70 f4 have even better IS it should be realy great.

I'd love to get my hands on a 100-400L, but it's a really old lens so I'm not sure it's worth getting for a modern camera like my 6D...

tnargs said:

roadrunner said:

The only thing it is lacking is weather sealing and copy variance.

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That's code for quality control. :-\

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It might be a poor design as well, too sensitive to manufacturing tolerances.

Firstly, i'm not sure about the 6D at 12800iso vs the 5ds..i've never actually shot that high for a paid gig.
Especially for weddings, i don't think any couple would want photos taken at iso12800 with any camera to be used as an official photo.
To me, the high ISO is just a bonus for times when you need it for general shooting and personal use..i wouldn't use it for an official photo of any sorts. Personally, i try not to go above 1600 if i can help it.

I would go for faster and better glass IMO….there is a difference between a good 2.8 zoom vs an F4 one besides just the aperture…there's alot more to it than that.

My favourite combo for almost anything…the 5D3 with the 24-70mk2

I've slept with my gear around my neck... but never slept with my gear...

CliveB said:

From "The Other YN-622C User Guide" p.10:

Two-Shooter Setup (John UK technique)
A second shooter can share augmenting flashes. There is a problem – preventing the zooming and firing of the other camera’s on-top flash.
• Camera 1 set to E-TTL or Manual, and Firing Group A:B at some ratio/power.
• On-camera 622 set to Remote mode and Group C, with an on-top flash.
• Camera 2 set up the same.
• Enhancing flash stand with remote 622 set to Group B, plus flash.
• When either camera takes a shot, it's on-top flash is treated as Group A, the augmenting flash as Group B, and the other camera as Group C. Group C is not enabled in Firing Group A:B, so does not fire.

https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B77OmmGIg0gMVFpqNkpBYXBHajA

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Awesome!!! I seriously missed that. Thank you sir.

So, what do we do about topics/subjects which are very much photo related, but don't fall into gear or rumors, or a particular manufacturer sub-forum? How about a General Photo Talk sub-forum?

Canon 600D with 70-200mkII+2TC

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Mt Spokane Photography said:

Glad to hear it was not a issue. They have never shipped a lens to me in a refurb box, but the bodies are usually shipped in a box marked refurb.

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If not a refurb box, what type of box do they come in? Every lens (and flash, and body) I've ordered from them, with the exception of the 70-200, has arrived in a white box that was labeled as refurbished (similar to the one below - not my image):

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I think what he meant is that they do not come in a traditional Canon retail box. I've attached a couple of images of my recent refurb purchase, which I received early this week.

What surprised me most was that it actually came in a brown box, whereas I took "White Box" quite literally