dirtcastle said:

I agree that it might be that rare non-telephoto lens that breaks into the $3k price range.

But my question is: "Will they discontinue the 16-35mm?" Or will they maintain three wide angle zooms in the lineup?

Hopefully they will replace the 16-35mm in the lineup (with the 14-24mm) and thus be able to lower the price (because it will sell more units at a lower price).

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I think that having 3 WA zooms makes sense because there is a large spread in price. Some may want to use screw on filters while others can't afford a 2k+ lens. Nikon also covers the WA FL range with multiple zooms.

EF 200/2 ;D

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cliffwang said:

molnarcs said:

Cannon Man said:

Does anyone know if the folks at nikon rumors hate nikon so much as people hate canon here?
For what i've seen and heard they dont. We should grow up.

Who here has thought about talking to their mothers about all the hate you have about canon? I'm sure she could help somehow. (ps. I'm not trying to troll anyone, just saying)

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Yes, lots of hand wringing and cussing on Nikonrumors, same as here.

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I don't know that. However, I would think Nikon users should have a lot of complain for their high ISO and FPS on D800.
If you like the Canon/Nikon, you should expect they make better products for you. If they cannot, you should be disappointed. Actually that's weird for me if people take whatever Canon/Nikon provide to you without any complain.

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+1:

About 30 years ago when I was doing my MBA, The Macro Economics professor asked us, Define "Development"... we gave a bunch of rubbish answers and then he said,

"Questioning the status Quo"..

If people don't question/ complain... things don't progress as well....

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Yes, well, the only way to question/complain is with your wallet.

not as deeply colored the next night in a different location about 40 miles away.

mirekti said:

Razor2012 said:

mirekti said:

Razor2012 said:

*UPDATE* Got a surprise phone call today and picked mine up at lunch. I can hardly wait to get it home now, lol. ;D

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I envy U!!

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Do you have one ordered?

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Nope, got an approval from my wife for it as a Christmas present
(I bet she thinks I'll change my mind) hehe

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Nice, just say you'll take your Xmas present early this year. 8)

It may be warmer, but still, to do an accurate judgement you need the RAW files

I'd check for excessive hot pixels on the sensor, try to "clear" them.

You're going to have a few, thats the way it is. If there's a boatload, then I'd exchange.

A few - I've got one "big red" on my 5d2, and dimmer red, and two dim blues, and one dim green.

I'm waiting until warranty is almost up, then I'll send it in to have them mapped out. Right now, they show up at moderate (800-1600) ISO and long exposure, low ISO and very long exposure, or high iso (3200+) at anything over 1/8 sec or so.

hd02fatboy said:

Thanks everyone, excellent feedback. So far I've leaned away from getting the older Canon 300mm and leaning more towards the Sigma120-300 f2.8 (waiting to see the price of the newer "S" version as the call it)

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If you get sideline passes to either football or soccer, the 120-300 will be really cool. Just be prepared to move around. If you want head-on end zone shots, bring a shorter length lens or back up and shoot at 120mm.

I have noticed a slight colour change between the RAW file and Large JPG of the same image in camera.. Not sure why it would do it..

Everybody who is needlessly getting so worked up over this thread:

The leadership team of B&H is fairly religious and they only open for a few business days during September. Between the two, Adorama is a bit more reliable in the fall.

If you want to just alter batch images to usable image format, then Image Converter software is a simple and quick way to a lot speed up picture's file type changes in just a small number of clicks. As a batch image converter I also use ReaConverter software with its batch editing mode.

Yes, I did write about this issue before and Canon did offer some suggestions and none helpful. Still the problem remains, if you press the joystick down with the need to quickly go to the center sensor, as the manual states, it often does not.
For me it creates a big problem shooting sports.
Since the Olympics just ended I can't help but wonder how Canon photographers used the joystick, and I'm looking for comments before I consider taping over the button. I just covered a soccer game and missed many shots, good thing it wasn't the Olympics. When I am able to control AF position it is fast and responsive.
Rex

Quite interesting!



http://photorumors.com/2012/09/19/new-phottix-products-strato-ttl-flash-trigger-and-mitrostm-ttl-flash/#more-32684

M249 said:

I reckon there is still room for a xxD line. But the numbers is running short. So let us move it up to the xD line. I mean come on, nothing except for the sensor on EOS 6D is really xD standard.

7D Mark II - Top APS-C

7D body
100% VF
10 FPS
Deep buffer
1 x CF + 1 x SD
3"2 fixed LCD 1040k
61 point AF
f/8


8D - Semi Pro APS-C

60D body
97% VF
6 FPS
1 x SD
3" swivel screen
19 point AF

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Nice upgrades, hope they happen.

No idea of the specific numbers, but much of the expense is the glass. In your example, the 17-55 has three aspherical elements, one of which is moulded glass and the other two are replica elements. The 24-70 II doesn't have a block diagram available AFAIK, but the MkI version of the lens had a ground/polished aspherical element at the front (i.e. the biggest, most expensive element). Also, many of the elements in the 24-70 II are larger than the 17-55, because of the larger image circle.

But as mentioned, mostly the price is a function of marketing estimates of what the target market is willing to pay...

Well, looks like I tied the score . Until we see some pics from an unbiased photographer shooting with a 6D, I don't think many would hazard a guess. I certainly would not... The safe answer is 5D2. My answer is save the cash for 5D3. But what do you shoot? What lenses do you have? Is your camera dying?

Does anyone have a BoM and unit price of a FF sensor (and not the loaded numbers that Canon provides) but from an independant source.

I am looking for a wireless remote that will trigger the flash/shutter as well as do non-flash shutter activations including multiple shots and long exposures. Any recommendations and advice would greatly be appreciated.

Thanks!

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ecka said:

I guess, all I have to complain about is that I live in Europe .
$2750 for 5D3 is nice, but $1750 for 6D would be nicer . I'm not a professional, but I'm more into photography than talking about expensive features I don't need. I think that 5D3 may be an overkill for me and I can't afford it atm. I hate to say this, but D600 is very tempting. I may just sell all may Canon toys, get the D600 with a nice 50/1.4 and wait till 5D3 price comes down (2015?). First I want to see some reviews...

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My thoughts exactly with the exception of I dont like the Nikon feel or UI.

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I don't like many things about Nikon - UI, ergonomics (backward lens mounting, backward zooming, backward focusing, grip, button layout), lack of aperture control in LiveView, possible green LCD tint , customer service, no free image editing software, more expensive higher grade lenses, arrogant fanboys. That may take some getting used to

Canon-F1 said:

can someone explain why the 6D has a new developed 20.2 MP sensor?

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The reason imho is very, very simple: To put the specs below the 5d3 (22mp) and 5d2 (21mp). The design of the 6d is purely marketing driven (af, x-sync) - if they couldn't get away with simply recycling the 5d2 sensor and didn't want to cannibalize the 5d3 a "new development" was the only option.

I still expect to 6d to have very low banding/ read noise, but this is not only due to sensor design w/ Canon tech but has to do with the rest of the camera electronics. As for dr/iso, I'm curios to see the reviews, but I don't think it'll save the 6d from forgetfulness.

1. First the sensor: FF 46MP with APS-C crop mode. In FF mode 5 fps, in crop mode - 9 fps.
2: AF - like 5d3 should be enough
3: usable ISO - 50-3200. 3200 has to be usable in crop mode yet, better than 1600 in 5d2
4: WiFi or LAN onboard
5. DLO onboard
6. usable 16bits DR
7. 1920p @ 60fps, 720p @120fps
8. Adobe Premiere for Canon and Adobe Lightroom for Canon on included disc, huge discount on Photoshop
9. Loyalty program - you buy each new gear on the camera's level but have one 30-50% discount on any non telephoto lens they have
10. Included in Loyalty program - a personal photo career advisor

Yes, that all could cost 3500$-4500$.

tis a good price indeed! thanks for sharing!

www.idealo.de also shows some nice prices aswell for Euro based customers.
when searching though use the prefix Mark III instead of MkIII its just the way they roll.

ireland seems to have an extra few hundread slapped onto the price of both bodies and lenses.
i.e. MkIII is 3299 euro compared to 2900 with Germany and the rest of Europe
lens wise 24-70 MkII is 2599 in ireland and 2199 in Germany and EU

I wonder if the amazon.co.uk price drop is permanent? 3 suppliers there at that price!

Love it...great creativity! Let me add a little please....

The mayor of nearby city Lake Seny had this to say about Canon's decision to move to lake failure,"we thought we had a shot at being the new home for canon usa because so many of their executives are golfers, and Lake Seny is known world wide for the quality of our city's driving range".

Industry analyst D.R. Exmer had this to say, "engineers at Canon have been working to increase the quality of their own city driving range by adding things like gapfree micro golf balls, but it seems like golfers continue to prefer the quality of Lake Seny's driving range". Exmer also added, "even folks from nearby lake Nokin drive to lake Seny for the city's driving range"

Ken Blockwell, who was recently seen on Canon's driving range had this to say, "it doesn't matter what city driving range you use, just hit golf shots". "I use cheap plastic golf clubs from the 1980's all the time, and I'll use whatever driving range that's closest, people just need to hit golf shots and forget about the quality of the driving range".

Analyst DR Exmer, upon hearing Blockwell's advice had this to say, "that's the kind of advice I would pay for".

steliosk said:

all these samples are JPEG

JPEG is filtered with masking and noise reduction. You just can't compare which camera delivers the best out of the detail..

seen the samples of 1D X? these sucks as well!

wait for some proper RAW files and then compare detail and ISOs.

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Some pictures say "This JPEG image is processed by in-camera RAW processing from a RAW image with a EOS 6D." .... The portrait doesn't say so.

I honestly wonder how you could advertise your new camera with crappy images. As I said in another topics, Canon thinks their users who can't afford the 5D3 will buy the 6D, just because it's the only one they can afford. They don't feel like they have to convince them, it's more that their blind-with-brand-loyalty user base will have no choice.