It's definitely going to take some practice for me to get used to the nodes and capabilities of the new AF system, was just using my new 5d3 last night (yay!), and there's just so many options.

I found that with all AF points enabled, it would invariably pick something I didn't want (e.g. a tree or pole closer to me) than the subject I was going for. It was on very busy scenes, both down by the beach on the path, on the streets, etc. I'm still not sure if I'm going to use the point + expansion, or point + surround most of the time, and I'll definitely have to get better and faster at changing the selected point.

I picked up a cactus trigger on the weekend and I got to test shoot a 5d mark 3 at Downtown Camera in Toronto. Sorry, I forget the price but man does it have much quieter shutter than my 5d mark 2! Anyway, just thought I would mention it. I am not affiliated with this store in any way shape or form, although I do buy my equipment from them. I hope it is ok to mention this in the forums. Sorry, if it is not.

I took ISO 1600 and 3200 of the same thing with both camera's.

I used my new kit lens, the 24-105 f/4 lens.

I used the Adobe 6.7 RC converter to create DNG's from both cameras, then tweaked them a bit in LR, including some noise reduction, and outputted the full resolution JPEG. I figured, that's how I would use it, so that's what I did.

I set the WB to the same value for the images, but they look different for some reason ( sensor or DNG conversion? )

The 5DIII images look more vibrant to me. The 5DII at ISO 1600 looks sharper than the 5DIII, but I still like the 5DIII image better overall.

Lamp and candle pictures:

www.flickr.com/shizam1

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Picked up a new, white box 24-105mm for $920 total, absolutely love it, I'm more happy with the shots from this lens than my version one 24-70mm. I plan to get version II and can't wait till i have the funds, to have the 24-70mm II, the 70-200mm IS f/2.8, for now the 24-70mm and a few primes will keep me well satisfied until my budget improves.

Lowing the lens on the new 5dmk3, the sharpness blows be away. I was never thrilled from my 7d, great camera just not for me, the new camera has me really pumped with spring and all the outdoor shots i plan to get.

Skitron

At the circuit level, it is more "noise mitigation" i.e. avoiding creating extra noise in the first place and of course it makes no sense to have a menu choice to tell the hardware add some noise. Whereas "noise reduction" in camera terms is a software process to try to undo noise that is already there and of course it makes sense to add a menu option for that since sometimes the cure is worse than the disease.

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I was fine with neuro's last explanation of what he meant. Noise reduction is an umbrella term for all efforts to create the mythical clean signal. When applied to software we might use in a camera I think we all know what it means. Naturally the current software create a smoothing of the details to create the noise reduction so, like everything, there is a trade-off.

FYI - Have you seen this: On the www.getdpi.com forum there is an Adorama camera somebody is willing to sell for $100 off list price. This guy had ordered from two places and when he wanted to cancel the second camera they offered him a price reduction. It hasn't sold yet ASFAIK, likely because that forum is full of medium format folk. He is going to return in to Adorama, if nobody wants it.

wow jrista, I'll have to study a bit if I want to pass that exam!

Just compared my 5D and 5D3 and the 5D3 is noticeably sharper.

So, I have two bodies, four lenses and some random accessories... any recommendations for a nice backpack style bag under $200??

There's so many to choose from!!!

Yes, the card was formatted with the 5D3 the day I got the camera, and it had been formatted a few times after that. Odd things do happen!

walterfabiano said:

I wanna buy both Canon 5D Mark III and 24-70mm II. Does anyone think that in few week some promotion will pop up as the new lens will be released on the 17th.

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The pro kit had been announced and price in a few places back at announcement time but I haven't heard anything about it since. Seemed like a $300 savings projected.

DavidRiesenberg said:

Competition happened. Nikon were in the S___ter more or less up until now. They needed to respond with a huge product and they did. Both feature wise and price wise. And the fact that Sony is also desperate to grab more foothold in the market only helps. Canon probably didn't take this into consideration and they simply gave us, Canon shooters, more or less what we asked for these past year.

But whatever Nikon or Sony did, if we calm our spec sheet peeping fetish for a bit, it is plain to see that the 5D3 is in fact a wonderful camera in itself that improves on most aspects of the 5D2. I am very happy with mine.

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Indeed competition happened. Don't get me wrong, I love the 5d2 for pure IQ, but there are a lot of things I miss about my mk4, I'm hoping I get 5d2 IQ and 1d everything else in the 1d X. If they make it as good as they claim and the AF is on par with the D4 (which is 100% accuracy, insane) I'm a happy camper. I'm just a little thrown that Nikon blasted forward and Canon made the 5d3 A LOT better (af for one important aspect) but failed to increase DR and reduce noise at any level....

I hope that the 1d X will be at least 13,5 stops of DR and two stops better at 1600 and above compared to the mk4 and the superclean lower iso's of the 5d2. And that the tracking blows the mk4 completely off the planet, and it HAS to to match the D4.

Here are a few walk about photos from today. Rather low contrast day outside. I rotated the bench slightly and cleaned it up a bit, otherwise they are right from the camera as jpegs, 5D3.
I think the lens will be a great complement to a 24-70 or some other daily use lens.

Red

http://www.pixiq.com/article/canon-c300-now-with-bbc-approval

That's a pretty good mark of approval I'd say.

I'm french living in Brussel.
I've made a preorder on digit-photo.com early in march and no news at all...
In brussel they recieve the mark III since the 22nd of march !
I just cancel my preorder and buy one at mediamarkt for 3200€ (100€ cheaper than digit-photo...).
But they was just 2 bodies in stock...

Maybe the last one is still there (mediamarkt is like Fnac).

Hi,

I have just bought these two cameras on eBay for fun and because I was there when the auctions have ended
Manual for Agfa Optima I: http://www.cameramanuals.org/agfa_ansco/agfa_optima-1.pdf
Zeiss Ikon Nettar http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/330703930635?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

I wanted to ask what kind of film I can use with them? (I received Agfa Optima 1 just now, and shutter and aperture seems to be working just fine, so i want to test it. (Havent received Zeiss yet))

Can you tell me what kind of film to use? (i've never used anything like this, or any non automatic film camera to be frank.. Just wanna try them for fun while i wait for my Canon 60D )

awinphoto said:

Understandably, however the presenter in the latest 1dx video (assuming thats the one your mentioning) is once again a mouthpiece, much like chucky w and most of the reps at tradeshows, where this rumor came from. Its all to be taken with a grain of salt, and given the center points are double cross sensitive, i'm sure assuming there is no technical/physical reason the camera cant AF at F8, which has been possible in previous 1d cameras, I dont see why a future firmware couldn't be implemented to do so if not but in 1 point. I dont know, personally, why it cant or what's stopping it, but I do know Canon listens to it's customers so if it's a problem or you want it fixed... start contacting them asap.

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I think some big guns have let Canon know what they think of the lack of F/8 AF. Neuro has pointed out that it is inherent in the design of the center point, and will require a physically different AF sensor. If they do that, it likely will not be in the first 1D X cameras delivered.

If those big name wildlife photographers have no influence, we don't stand much chance, except to change brands.

If its merely firmware, one could presumably tape the pins and it would work. I don't expect that.

neuroanatomist said:

The Canon specification is the same for both - 32-104°F/0-40°C (actually, it's the same for the 1-series, too).

Speaking from personal experience (New England winters), the camera does fine in sub-freezing temperatures. The first thing you'll notice is the reduced battery life you already mentioned, also the LCDs will stop functioning in extreme cold (including the transmissive LCD, although Chuck Westfall mentioned that the 1D X's transmissive LCD is built to withstand much colder temperatures than the 7D).

The bigger issue isn't functioning in cold temps, it's what happens when you bring the camera back inside and the cold results in condensation forming inside camera and lens. Here are some tips on that.

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My 7d used to be awesome in extreme temps but it has been getting worse and worse in sub freezing... the camera will lock up... LCD will appear "on" for the top LCD but when I go to use the camera... eye to the VF, trying to activate AF, nothing.. turning on or off from the power switch does nothing... Have to take the battery out and reinsert and it starts working again. It gave me 2 solid years of abuse and service but 2 recent photoshoots where it was subfreezing it has done this... Any ideas? Weathersealing drying up/giving up?

msdarkroom said:

Auto Lighting Optimizer
Does the auto lighting optimizer get applied to raw images? The book says (p 142) that "with jpeg images, the correction is applied when the image is captured." To me that implies that the raw correction is applied at a different time. Thoughts? Or is it not applied at all to a raw image? Would it be applied to a DPP raw but not a DNG conversion?

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ALO only applies to JPG images. However, there's a flag for it in the RAW metadata that DPP will recognize and apply. Other RAW converters will ignore it.

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High ISO NR
This is a very misleading menu title in my opinion. The menu title says "high" but the book (p 143) says the NR is applied to all ISO speeds. Raw images that are viewed in camera have NR that "looks minimal." Does DPP add to the minimal NR automatically? Is there minimal NR applied to a DNG converted raw?

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It's applied to all ISO settings, but more NR is applied as ISO increases. DPP applies similar NR, although you can change the defaults.

This topic has been moved to Third Party Manufacturers.

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=4988.0

I think the D800 pics look pretty good. No surprise there.

Canon and Nikon both make great camera systems. Nothing new.

Ok I will have to set my set button to magnify then. Thanks

i store my gear in a pelican 1510 with dividers i just feel its safe as can be in the peli case waterproof dustproof child proof lol

Just ordered a 600ex-rt from Crutchfield, and it will be shipping out today. Cancelled my still-pending order at Amazon (never even got a shipping estimate from them on it)

Crutchfield has now come through twice for me.. for the flash, and for the 5D3 kit! And I'll have over $250 in store credit to use with them as part of their rewards program... sweet!