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A Canon DSLR Rumor Roundup Heading into 2018

RickSpringfield said:
Mikehit said:
RickSpringfield said:
Here's hoping that Canon consolidates all of the 5D camera bodies into a single camera called the 'Canon 5DSr Mark II'.

It seems possible to make a FF camera with high megapixels, without an AA filter, include a headphone jack/focus peaking/zebras/useable encoded full sensor 4k, WiFi, GPS, 7-9 FPS for stills, a flippy touch screen, weather seal it, and include in body image stabilization, the ability to shoot at a lower RAW MP if/when wanted/needed, and dual card slots.

Charge the 3700$ if they must (Although 2899$ would be a huge hit).

I think that camera would get critical acclaim and also bring IQ focused enthusiasts to Canon. I'm not convinced that the promise of smaller size bodies and lenses for mirrorless is enough on its own to bring people over. I think Sony is drawing people in because hybrid shooting is more prevalent than ever and enthusiasts would rather have the ability to shoot in this hybrid video/photo manner vs. being forced into 2 separate devices... one body for photos, one body for video.

Canon built the hybrid shooter market with the 5D Mark II. They could win all of that back with a release like the above.

Remarkable how 'wishlisters' casually throw in comments like '3,700 if they must but 2,900 would be great'. Make it sound like 3,700 for a body like that is excessive. And then just knock of 1,000 bucks for the hell of it. But why stop there - why not 2,000. Or why not ask for a 100MP 1Dx2 for the cost of a Rebel?


I agree that Sony is drawing people. But mainly those for whom 4K video in a stills camera is essential - and what many fail to realise is they are precious few. Growing, yes, but a small increase in a small market area looks great, doesn't it.

Its ok if you don't like my perspective ... but that doesn't make it wrong. A $2899 price would certainly draw in more people than a $3700 price.

That doesn't make it a good decision. A $20000 Lexus would draw in more people than $40000, but that doesn't make it realistic.
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Frame rate and play off of 12-bit, 14-bit, 16-bit

Mikehit said:
Following the announcement of the D850, there is chatter about Canon's response and some of this has been on the level of MP and frame rate. If any manufacturer shows any step back on anything regards image quality they get a hail of abuse irrespective of the practical consideration and the area of the market the camera is aimed at.

I have zero understanding of the technicalities of processing power vs downsides such as heat sinking, but how far can we go with the 5DSR mk2 - if it were to appear - offering higher frame rates? Could they take a leaf out of Sony's book and do so by dropping from 16-bit, 14-bit or 12-bit and is there any noticable effect on image quality. Or, more exactly, under what circumstances would a difference become obvious?

You need one bit per stop of DR plus some leg room for preserving noise to facilitate better noise reduction. Both Nikon and Sony ignore the latter and divide sensor readout values by the black point, in essence shifting bits to the right* so that fewer bits are needed. Sony even goes so far as to apply noise reduction before writing the raw file, resulting in angry astrophotography people losing stars in their images.

Modern FF sensors need at least 12 bit raw files just for DR. The difference in file size to 14bit is way less than the 14% you could be lead to believe would be achievable. The raw file also contains a thumbnail, preview, metadata, headers, ... Canon would be able to achieve something in the ballpark of 14% increase in write speed most easily by not including a high quality full resolution jpeg embedded in the raw file. That's right - when you set your camera to raw+jpeg, the jpeg data is written twice.

* For the technically proficient readers: laymen prefer MSB left without further explanation.
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LensTip Review: Sigma 24-70 f/2.8 DG OS HSM Art

JumboShrimp said:
This thing is just too heavy for me, but I love the IS. I guess my perfect solution is still to come. Or, perhaps I'll just stick with my trusty 24-70/4 L IS. If only Canon would just add IS to theirs with minimal weight increase ...

Tamron G2 could be interesting. I believe it weighs in about halfway between the Canon 24-70 2.8L II and the Sigma Art. Heavier than I'd ideally like for a general purpose lens, but I guess that's the price you have to pay for f/2.8. I'm quite torn at the moment between sticking with the 24-70 4L IS and switching to one of the 2.8 models.
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Pricing in USD of the New Canon Gear

jd7 said:
SecureGSM said:
Sigma 85 Art can be had in Australia for AU$1,031.20 inc. GST brand new delivered from an authorised reseller with 2 years warranty included right now. That's US$820.00 at current exchange rate. Father's Day special promo.


bergstrom said:
sigma art 85 1.4 for over $574 cheaper

http://www.onestop-digital.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=34905&currency=USD

That seems like a great price for the Sigma! I will wait for reviews but at this point I think I would lean towards the new Canon over the Art because of its IS, weight, size, and filter size. Still, price is a factor to think about too.

It also depends how soon you need (or "need") it - if you can wait six months, the price will almost certainly drop some on the Canon as well. If you need it soon, well, the price premium for the Canon will be higher.
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Upgraded Pro Canon Lenses for Crop Bodies

I'm a 17-55 owner and would like to see an update to this and the 10-22. In reality though, Canon has shifted their consumer marketing to DSLR's that do both stills and video well. Given that, I'm not sure we'll see an update to lenses like the 17-55, 10-22, or 15-85 any time soon. The population seems to be content with quiet lenses with enough zoom capabilities, ie 18-135, that also produce good quality pictures. As stated before, if someone is looking for the ultimate image quality, they are going to need to look at FF lenses for that.
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A Full List and Some New Images of What's Coming This Week From Canon

LonelyBoy said:
privatebydesign said:
A 5DSR MkII and the five TS-E's seem like a potential dream package for many shooters, I wonder how Canon will cock it up ;)

By delivering an "underwhelming" but extremely effective set of features and selling them in boatloads to professional and amateurs while the reviewers rate them at the bottom and the internet says Sony and Nikon will steal marketshare?

;)
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The highend comparison ;-)

Dylan777 said:
Mikehit said:
Dylan777 said:
Sony is missing few bazookas in their mirrorless: 400mf2.8, 600mmf4 etc...However, not every A9 owners would need these big lenses. From everyday large primes to f2.8 zooms Sony covered. I don't see reason we keep mention Sony has issue with lens selection.

Visit your site, very cute model.Great shots :)

IMO the criticism comes because the A9 was clearly aimed at sports and wildlife and anyone who does those regularly will want want 400mm+ with f4 or faster.
If you use a CaNikon tele (or even their own A-mount tele!) with adapter all those AF/drive features vaporise in a cloud of footnotes on their spec sheet.

And if you don't need their fancy AF and functionality, the case for buying the A9 becomes weaker.

Faster frame rate and more adv. AF are huge benefits in photography, regardless, type of photography you in. Sure wildlife and sports shooters would enjoy more....what about wedding pros? You think they would benefit lugging that 400f2.8 and 600f4 around their neck with A9???

Wedding group shots, to have camera recognizes(face recognition AF) on the groom + bride and stays in focus while compose the shots....that just one of many features wedding pros could benefit. About completely "silent shooting mode" in the church???

Please re-read my post. Carefully. And you will see I don't actually disagree with you.
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Specifications & Images of the Upcoming Canon Lenses

Maybe this is off topic, but i own the 17mm which i would buy again. For the wide angel, i like the shift function, and tilt can be used with little luck and try/error even when handholding the camera. It's my general wide angel lens

2nd choice would be the 24mm for the same reasons.

In my opinion these 2 lenses can be used very generally, whereas i see the longer ones as specialised lenses mostly for product photography, within a professional setup.
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Canon EF 400 F4 DO IS II USM first impressions

Adam, thanks for your impressions and thank you for those really nice pictures.

Out of curiosity (if you know):
AdamBotond said:
... the 400 DO II, which was offered to me second hand in brand new condition and at a very reasonable price. ...
As this lens is quite new and well reviewed, why was the owner selling it? Didn't it feed his needs?
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filename format updates??

ronaldbyram said:
Hey gang, two questions..
1. why does canon not have custom file names on all camera bodies? I know its on the the high end bodies.. is it just a $$ games with options?

2. I have searched the rumors board and I see as far back as 2012, isnt it time Canon updated its file name format?
I am using the 7D MarkII and have a custom Name with my Initials and a 5 digit # Example RSB8xxxx.CR2
this way I sort of keep up with the # of shutter clicks and limits my Dupe file names. And I can group my pictures in groups of 10k.

As I start to approach the 100k Mark for photos taken, I see that I have to alter may prefix to support that range. Not that I dont have to change at the 10k mark already.

I would think that now its 2017 isnt it time for a new format? maybe allow a 6 digit # by default?
I agree!
On my 7D2, I have my file names set to D(for Don)YY(for the year, now at 17)B(a letter that I increment every 1000 photos)XXXX, so a recent picture might be named D17B4567.CR2....

On my 6D2, I am forced to use IMG_XXXX so after only 10,000 pictures, I get duplicate file names. That SUCKS!
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Canon 50 1.2 vs Sigma 50 art specifically for low light photos

I think in general you get a lot of negative comments from people whose poor technique and lack of patience and lack of skills in posing people is blamed on particular lens. Maybe some lens have a tolerance problem but in general if you can't take a good photography with a 50 1.2 you should take up something like fishing.


YuengLinger said:
Sarpedon, I'm very sorry to hear about your gear. :-[

Hector1970, glad you are not frustrated with yours.

Together, you are persuasive about the 50 1.2, but for every few stories like yours, I hear too many negative experiences.

I was wrong, earlier, to say I wouldn't touch it "with other people's money." I'd borrow one from somebody who has a known good copy and give it a whirl, but still might hold out, as eventually Canon will release some kind of update. Maybe.
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New PowerShot G1X III

3.5 years plus in the making...Canon don't screw this one up again.

Canon PowerShot G1 X Mark III Specifications:

24mp APS-C Sensor (The PowerShot G1 X Mark II was 1.5″ sensor)
Dual Pixel AF
DIGIC 7
24-120mm lens or 15-50mm or 15-75mm???


powershot2012 said:
Is a G1X III still in the pipeline or has Canon abandoned this series?
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I want a new nice firmware for the 1dx2, is that too much to ask?

scottkinfw said:
These would be nice, but I would save my $6,000+ for a lens. I can't see moving away from my 1DX unless something really earth moving came out in a III.

Do love my 1DX

Scott

privatebydesign said:
No, but I think the thread would have far more value if you actually listed some of the features you'd like.

From a functionality point of view I'd like:-

Intervalometer,
Accurate RAW file histogram,
Unleash the crippled touchscreen!

What I'd like in a MkIII:-

Illuminated buttons,
Twin CFast slots,
7D MkII lever outside the joystick,
RT flash control,
WiFi,

I think when you have a camera the level of the 1DX it is hard to justify the cost of an upgrade. I was contemplating the 1Dx and then thanks to CR, I became aware of the 1DX2 being fairly close so in that context it made sense for me to wait. The wait gave me DPAF which was a real positive since I wanted to do more video and a few other things, one being the illuminated AF points, more like the 1D4.

Jack
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Patent: Variable Curved Image Sensor Concept

djack41 said:
Pie in the sky. Canon has its customers discussing fairy tales. Meanwhile. Canon takes 5 years to update cameras with 4 year old technology.

Maybe.

I have bought the 200D and I am very satisfied with the DPAF in live view especially for closeups of flowers in nature with wide open aperture settings. DPAF is some years old, but it is still unique as far as I know in terms of a combination speed / non-hunting / precision.
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Stock Notice: Loupedeck Photo Editing Console for Lightroom 6 & CC

Maiaibing said:
Mt Spokane Photography said:
I managed to edit 130 photos today using my mouse, but 500 would be a better output.

Are people able to edit a image 100% without using a keyboard or mouse, or must you still use them for some tasks. I'd really doubt that they can be done without a keyboard.
Have CPS and have used touch pads for many years. I also use shortcuts on the keyboard - but you could get a programmable keyboard and have shortcuts here too, so you only have to tap once. I also do this. The combo works for me.

The best touchpad ever (fingerworks ipad) sadly cannot be bought anymore because Apple bought them out to make the iphone. I still use my fingerworks pads, but I have also supplemented with a Wacom tablet. I do all my editing with the Wacom tablet, pen, shortcuts and presets.

Wacom can work for you as a touch pad also. However, Fingerworks got it right and Wacom does not (very frustating), but since you never have used the fingerworks pad you are unlikely to notice this and will enjoy the advantages of touch a lot. Also nothing beats the pen for careful editing.

Do note that it takes time to use a pen effectively. Lots of youtube video's to help you out with getting it right. I only use 25% of my Wacom for the gestures and 100% for pen editing.

Good luck!

I have a Wacom, and have used several of the touch pads in the past. However, with no feeling in your fingers, and no fine motor control, I found them to be a struggle. I not only have CPS, but Neuropathy. I struggle to use a mouse because I can't feel the left button.

As I noted earlier, what works well for some, may not work well for others. I can use both hands, and have used a pen in one hand and mouse in the other which worked very well before my hands became worse.

I'm beginning to be very pessimistic that there is anything I can use without pain.
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Sigma 100-400 + TC-1401 will not AF on 6D

The 6D, like most older Canon bodies, does not autofocus above f/5.6 (third-parth f/6.3 lenses actually lie to the camera that their max aperture is f/5.6). Many newer bodies AF up to f/8 with the center point, including the 7D2, 80D, and 6D2. Only the 5D4 and the 1DX2 AF at f/8 with all points (but depending on the lens/extender combination, possibly fewer). The Live View AF doesn't have a hard limit and some people have managed to get DPAF to focus up to f/11, albeit slowly, if light is plentiful and there's enough contrast.
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