The magic drain pipe (80-200 L) which I don't own but love the pictures that I had taken with it.

Jeevz said:

Thanks!
Was from Lac de la Dathee, in Lower Normandy, France.

I got so many varied shots on this morning; after the clouds obscured the MW there were the other lake reflections. Then the mist started rising off the lake... then the sun started shining through the mist...

It's a beautiful place.

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Yes, it does seem like a lovely place.

kirispupis,

Fantastic reply and great image.

Re: Canon U.S.A. Puts Its Latest Digital Imaging Solutions On Display With Interactive Booth Demonst

DudeInTheSky said:

And there you have it! A press release stating that Canon will be demonstrating HDR (High Dynamic Range) grading in a DI suite! Since none of Canon's current cinema cameras can support HDR (well, maybe C500 in 2K 12bit 4:4:4 mode) one starts to wonder which Cinema cameras Canon will be showing at NAB. i.e. will C300mk2 come in way above Canonrumors' suspected specs, OR will the C500mk2 be shown...? Or something different? If Canon is planning to demonstrate HDR grading with footage from an Arri or Sony camera, I think it's a safe bet to assume Canon wouldn't include that in a pre-NAB press release...

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I think you may be reading too much into that statement. Sounds more like they want to show off their year-old 40k DCI compliant reference monitor. Their use of HDR here would seem to be a reference to the latest "trick" -- using various techniques to squeeze extra DR out of existing chips (from any manufacturer). Of it could simply be a case of canon sticking to their guns regarding 12.5 stops of DR. There's certainly nothing in that statement that even remotely indicates a new camera.

It seems odd that if there's a new 4k camera to be announced at this show, that they would offer a "4k frame grab demonstration" using the 3 year old 1dc.

The only Cinema EOS camera to be announced at NAB was the 1DC in 2012, (there was a C500 development announcement, but that doesn't count), and it was announced the friday before NAB. That year...all the press releases for NAB came that day, with a general press release (like this week's) coming after the show was open. At this point, all we have is CR to trust on this. I'm not saying it's not gonna happen, but the wind does seem to be blowing in that direction.

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mackguyver said:

Marsu, that's interesting to hear that you have been over there and I'm sure the atmosphere is very tense. My only experience has been walking around big cities at night and sometimes wandering into a bad neighborhood or being surrounded by a gang. Fortunately I didn't have a camera, but on a recent shoot in a relatively safe city, my camera attracted a lot of attention from the homeless. They kept asking me how much it cost and such making me a bit nervous.

Back to the ethics topic, I wonder what sanj decided to do

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I decided to go with the picture without the birds. Thanks for the confidence. Appreciate.

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This thread certainly went all over the place, but I'm glad to hear you made that choice and feel good about it. I'm sure it's a stronger photo without the birds distracting from the lion.

People are talking about noise and then downsampling to say 20MP. For me if I'm buying this camera I'm buying it to make high DPI 30x45" prints. Downsampling is not an option to clean up the image.

I don't get the too heavy too bulky thing yes it could be lighter but if it was the lenses wouldn't feel as good in the hand.

I've just traveled over 30,000 miles with my 5DMKIII, 24-105 F4 L, 16-35 2.8 L, 70-300mm L and the nifty fifty all adds up to around 7kg not including accessories and my 20kg backpack with clothes and supplies.

I don't think I could have had a better travel companion. The only thing I wish I had had was an extra 100mm on the 70-300 at times.

IQ brilliant
Ergonomics brilliant
FPS brilliant
Weather sealed brilliant
AF brilliant

There's not much more I could have asked of it! And 25k pics later with plenty of war wounds it's still shooting like a champ. Built for hard use and delivers.

I tried last weekend, but the snowdrops and bloodroot weren't out yet (or I couldn't spot them under the leaf debris. I might post a photo of a male Red-Winged Blackbird in full territorial / sexual call, or a turkey vulture - those are the first fauna of spring, and I have heard and seen them.

I was not as happy with the 7D MK I, and that has kept me from jumping on the MK II.

I had two 7D MK I's. The first one went back before the 30 day period expired, I just did not like the IQ. I replaced it with a used 1D MK III which was wonderful by comparison, and cost me about the same.

Eventually, I bought another refurbished 7D as a 3rd body on impulse during one of the Canon 20% off sales, and got a bit of use from it, but I found myself using my 5D MK II most of the time. I sold it and found a deal on a used 1D MK IV for $3K just as the 1DX came out.

Right now, I'd buy a used 1D MK IV rather than a 7D MK II. I've had one and loved it, but my hands developed carpal tunnel and I could not hold it. I had originally bought it with 7K actuations, and sold it for $4200, by then, the infatuation with the 1DX had diminished, and the 1D MK IV's were in high demand. I used the 1D MK IV at up to ISO 12800 when absolutely necessary and acquired nice printable photos.

I keep wanting to jump on a used 1D MK IV now that my hands have healed, but I'm holding off waiting to see what new cameras show up this year.

heres the post
http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=25693.0

jeffa4444 said:

Lee Filters showed a revised SW150 at The Photography Show with a rubber light baffle for the reflections (can be purchased for those with SW150 holders already), polarising filter, big stopper and a little stopper is coming. The ring for the 11-24 was not at the show but is due very soon.

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Thanks for the update and it's good to hear that they are expanding the SW150 filters as well. My bank account is less excited about the news...

We were told catagorically that they were NOT launching anything above the C500 MKII in 2015 by a very reliable Canon Cinema EOS dealer. C500 sales have not been very good they stated and since the arrival of the Sony FS7 the C300 sales had dived.

The priority for Canon must be the C300 replacement not a C700 at this stage.

http://petapixel.com/2015/03/24/lighting-gear-pioneer-paul-c-buff-passes-away-at-the-age-of-78/#.VRIV1y0ceyY.facebook

Nice write up. I own two Einsteins and two Alien Bees 400s along with umbrellas and other accessories of his. Just amazing workhorse products. His innovation will be missed and remembered fondly.

u scared the heck outta me RENAME YA TITLE u got people thinking they are being recalled :'(

This lens has been in short supply. A few are now in stock at B&H.
adorama has it too.

One thing I have noticed about many runners -- They seem to smile only when they stop running. ;D

I have the current A7R and the Canon 5d III, definitely two different tools. A7R is very good at what it does well This camera has slowed down my photography considerably (Possibly in a good way). EVF is very good for focus peaking, seeing what the camera will produce before taking the shot, and of course getting fantastic detail. It is not good for quickly getting focus (auto) , especially in low light. If you were thinking of getting any Sony landscape lenses built for it, the 16-35f4 is very good. I use a combo of Sony and Canon lenses but I am slowly getting what I like in Sony (16-35, 24-70, 70-200....and something bigger if they ever make one) that I share with the A6000.

Canon 5d III is probably still the best camera if you do more than one type of shooting. Great autofocus (feels as good as my 1D IV), very solid, dual cards for those of us who have had an SD card die in the rainforest, and I can't complain about the image quality or shooting speed for nature shots....1D IV is faster but I rarely shoot more than 3 shot bursts.

Size - this is the big reason that I have been trying "mirrorless". I loved the panasonic m4/3 cameras but wanted more. Sony gives me both the capability to go small when I want to but still can use the big lenses when they are necessary and get great detail. My travel kit (for everything but birding) is now able to be carried in a small pack on any plane and my back doesn't hurt at the end of the day. Still have to carry big lenses for birding so I will likely keep upgrading both kits indefinitely.

Do what the others have suggested, try each out by renting if you can. I am now used to both interfaces, but that can take a while...especially since Canon's is very good, Sony is catching up slowly. As always, my personal reasons for choosing to use any of these cameras is based on what I "need"/want to do with them. Great tools, general or specific usage. Go have fun.

Welcome to the forum.
We appreciate you sharing your experience with us.

Thank you very much guys. Appreciate.

Filmmakingyeahbaby said:

I wonder where all this leaves the 1080p C100 Mk2? Surely they must be planning a firmware update to make that capable of 4k (via external recorder)? Otherwise it's a bit of an anomaly as an HD only camera in their whole new line up...? They upped the image processor in it, didn't they? So I think after these all cameras come out, they must be planning to release an update for that one...

I'm very interested to see the C300 Mk 2, but I can't see them making it a competitor to the FS7 on price. They probably aren't going to sell it for anywhere near $10k, given the Mk 1 is still on for $11.5k. That's just not the market they are going for.

But I think the only way they can really justify charging much more is if they offer something that the FS7 doesn't. Even if they fall short of the FS7 in lots of ways, as long as they have one key feature it doesn't have, they can justify the price. And I'm not sure the native EF mount is enough.

I wonder if they're adding ProRes as a capture codec. On the FS7 you have to add an extra unit to capture ProRes. If Canon have licensed it and it's built in, they could definitely charge more... ProRes has been a huge success on the Alexa/Amira range. If they could get a Canon color, 10bit ProRes recorded on board, I think it would sell very, very well... at their target price range.

But this is all probably just very wishful thinking!

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Nope. No firmware update (hardware can't do it most likely anyway). As a professional they know that you will do the professional thing and pony up more $$$$ when their next camera comes out.

Not all lenses. The 17-40L lens hood is all but useless. I've decided to simply leave it behind. Also my EF M 22mm lens has no lens hood but it does have a clear protector filter on it permanently. I also don't have hoods for my FD lenses.

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mackguyver said:

PhotographyFirst said:

You guys are only thinking full frame? Sigma's 8-16 is already in the "Art" class of optics and build quality. I have one on my T1i and it is an outrageously superb lens even at 8mm. The sharpness and microcontrast are amazing, and for focus stacking landscapes, it has nearly zero focus breathing. The FOV is around 12-13mm equivalent for full frame.

Sigma already conquered the UUWA zoom lens segment for crop cameras long before anyone else.
It would be interesting to see if they make the 12mm full frame version better to match the 8-16. The 8-16 is way better even for a crop lens.

Here's a TPD comparison. Although his 8-16 looks like the lower right corner is decentered to be softer than a good copy, which I have. Even then, beats the noodles out of the 12-24.
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If I still had a crop body, I'd get that lens in a heartbeat. It's excellent. Also, you're right, Sigma pioneered the whole ultrawide zoom segment, and I imagine they're feeling a bit encroached by the new 11-24 f/4. The 12-24 f/4 compares pretty favorably when stopped down and is way cheaper. I still think it's a pretty niche product, though, so I'd be surprised if they gave it the Art treatment, but maybe, like Canon, they will make it a statement piece. In other industries, there's lots of evidence that it works - Dodge sold a ton of Neons and minivans when they rolled out the Viper, and Ford is even planning to produce a $400k (really) Ford GT successor. Getting people excited about a brand (or in the showroom) can really pay off if done well. I think Sigma could definitely pull off something unique as they've done before in this segment.

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I am not discounting that it might be a crop Art lens, but there's sooooo much more money to be made in the FF segment, i.e. if you have the money for a FF rig, you are far more likely to be able/willing to pay ~ $1k for an Art lens.

- A

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The (U)UWA zoom lens segment is an area I’ve long been interested in. I have also written many posts about (U)UWA too. I won’t go over them all… search my profile posts if you’re really interested… lol

What I will say here though, is that the choice of UWA zooms available today is truly terrific (and also ‘simply great’) for both APS-C and FF. When I bought my first UWA zoom, there were only a few options. Now there are so many options, including ‘version 2s’ of certain lenses even!

-A, while I do agree in part with your analogy of the ‘statement piece’ approach / possible philosophy to justify an ART UWA from Sigma… also remember there are so many more people with APS-C cameras than FF still, and as such – although a higher proportion of FF photogs might buy an UWA than APS-C photogs, I’d say there is more money ‘overall’ (total volumes sold x profit per lens) in APS-C than FF.

Sticking to APS-C firstly… the Sigma 8-16mm is indeed a truly terrific lens, which I’ve had for a few years now. I upgraded from my previous UWA zoom, the Sigma 10-20mm (f/4-5.6 model). It’s noticeably sharper corner to corner than either Sigma 10-20mm f/3.5 or the f/4-5.6 model). Has much lower CA, more pleasing IQ and other aspects overall. It handles flare ‘ok’ (perhaps the only ‘slight chink in its armour’). Most importantly it is able to produce significantly wider shots than any other APS-C UWA zoom lens.

There are other good / great options: Canon’s 10-22mm, Canon 10-18mm STM, Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8, etc. For FF there is the new and highly acclaimed 16-35mm f/4 IS. Sharp, including corner to corner, AND with IS. That’s good! I’m all for IS… also in UWAs. (I wish it was built in to my camera body – or into my Sigma 8-16mm – of course with no loss of IQ).

The Sigma 8-16mm for crop is indeed superior comparably to the FF Sigma 12-24mm v1 or v2. Of course there is copy to copy variation… but I’m generalising / averaging. So with Canon now producing the 11-24mm, that’s a new ‘level’ of commitment to the FF UWA zoom lens segment. Well done Canon. From all accounts – it is a fantastic lens (though indeed, expensive!)

I think with Canon recently producing 2 new FF UWAs and an APS-C UWA (10-18mm STM) – they are showing how they believe this market segment will continue to be a profitable one (even for the 10-18mm STM, which is – in effect, a ‘budget lens’). Again, kudos to Canon for every STM lens they have produced to date.. all very good. The EF-M 11-22mm STM also is a fantastic UWA lens, by the way, for EOS-M cameras!

Having been quite disappointed at what even ‘expensive FF UWA zooms’ have been able to produce at the edges and particularly extreme corners (even when stopped down), but seeing what my Sigma 8-16mm produces corner to corner is one (but not the only) reason I am staying with APS-C as my main camera at this stage. (Costs of other lenses, including reaching the equivalent focal length for telezooms in FF is another). I have thousands of dollars invested in glass… with the only lens that I’m still ‘seeking’ – being a fast 50mm (or thereabouts) Canon prime (but that’s another story).

Of course I’d love a Canon FF with the Canon 11-24mm… but that’s a new bucket of dollars I would have to split open! So in that sense, well done to Canon for the ‘more budget friendly’ FF 16-35mm f/4… which a lot of people have said is ‘truly great value’ (including it having IS!)

mackguyver said:

PhotographyFirst said:

Going lower than 12mm is beyond where a lens is useful. I have yet to see a single 11mm Canon shot that looks good in 3:2 format. Going that wide only looks good in panoramic formats, IMO.

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12mm seems a bit arbitrary and I think it's a bit premature to say that about the 11-24 given that people have only had it in their hands for 2 weeks at best. The wider the lens the more difficult the composition, so it's going to take some time for someone to really nail a shot at 11mm. When they do, I think people will see the value...and besides it's a zoom...there's no law that says it has to be used at 11mm

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I agree with Mackguyver here… there is definitely nothing wrong with having a lens that goes wider than a previous model. (The Sigma 8-16mm lens, which only really works on APS-C DSLR bodies, has been tested to be about FF equivalent to 12.5mm). By the way, TDP’s test of the Sigma 8-16mm at 8mm f/8 appears to have an issue (shake, or another variable) – as it is noticeably not as sharp as the f/5.6 or f/11 (and it should be from most other tested Sigma 8-16 lenses at those comparable settings). Or it could be an unusual anomaly for that particular copy. Mine is truly sharp from f/5.6 to f/16 when defraction starts to make itself known.

When I obtained my first UWA lens, it took some time for me to capture quality images and photograph UWA well… but now with several years of UWA experience under my belt, I’m better (but can still learn and improve – that’s another reason I love photography).

Note – here is what I think about fisheye- that just doesn’t ‘work’ for me. There have only been a handful of fisheye photos that I have thought ‘wow… I really like that’. The ‘fisheye effect’ is off putting to me, as is vignetting, and other ‘lens effects’ that some people like / see as adding value. But there have been so many more rectilinear UWA photos that I do say ‘wow’ to! When I moved from 18mm to 10mm and then to 8mm (in APS-C lens ‘wide’ possibilities) – each time I have really appreciated what I could now achieve.

I recently took a photo of a beautiful small lake (ok, it maybe was a pond!) in New Zealand with towering mountains in the background, and I could only capture what I really wanted with my (APS-C) Sigma 8-16mm. After I took the ‘8mm’ shot, I set it at 10mm, and I couldn’t fit the entire pond and perspective / composition in that I wanted. Same with some rainbows that I have captured previously (eg needed to cut off ends, or stitch multiple images together at 10mm).

Already in the last few weeks I’ve seen some great shots with the (FF) Canon 11-24mm at 11mm. Looking forward to more. Well done Canon!

And... Sigma… I'm looking forward to what you produce, whether it’s an ART or something else. Will only be good for us photographers (who are not 'pixel peepers' - but love sharp, contrasty, beautiful images capturing the light!)

Paul 8)

e17paul said:

Patak said:

what would be a better choice between these two lenses? i currently own 70-300 and really like the 70-180 range.

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I'm assuming that the 70-300 you already own is one of the non L models.

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The OP notes in his footer that he has a L 70-300. The non-L is very hit & miss!
OP, keep your current lens, it's highly regarded and is lots of shooters favourite.

-pw

tron said:

mackguyver said:

There is some truth to that, but I have the same number of lenses now as I had when I posted this message. My needs have changed (events>real estate) and Canon has released two fantastic wide zooms in the past two years. I traded the 16-35 f/2.8 II for the the 16-35 f/4 IS and sold it after buying the 11-24 f/4. I'm very content with what I have now .

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OK 1.5 year ago I had sold the version 1 16-35 2.8 so I was ready to get the 16-35 f/4 IS. I like it very much. Although I am thinking about 11-24 I wouldn't like to sell my 16-35. It is very practical (filter in front element, IS). So I believe I am worse than you (G.A.S wise speaking ;D )

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I have the EF-M 11-22 IS for my little M, so that's my walkaround wide lens now that I sold its big brother. It's very sharp and compares well to the 16-35 f/4 IS though it's a 18-35 and missing one aperture blade. I need to pick up a ridiculous 55>82mm step up ring for my C-PL and NDs

I suggest this a lot. See if you can rent the candidate lens. If you can rent it for a few days, you will know for sure if you can handle it in the conditions you shoot in all day. Me - I have to get back to pumping iron, then I can try pumping magnesium and silica. I currently use the 400 f/5.6L, a very appealing lens, I can easily handhold it and pan.