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50mm f/1.4 Canon vs. Sigma

I currently have the Canon version and while sometimes it takes amazing images, a lot of the time I find it's super soft or just misses focus. I also own the 85mm f/1.8, which I find to be much sharper and hits focus a lot more often, so it's not me having a focus issue.

My question is, would it be worth switching to the Sigma version? I'm mostly worried about it not having the creamy bokeh that the Canon version has because the Sigma is a much sharper lens.

Example of when I hate this lens:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/jesseherzog/14892121262/

Focus is off and image is super soft. Not a fan of the bokeh in this either.

Examples of when I love this lens:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/jesseherzog/15083888055/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/jesseherzog/10998659386/

Sony a7r with Canon Lens experience

Hello Guys,

I know that this is a Canon forum, but i would like to hear some thoughts on this matter from Canon people.

So i`m thinking on buying a Sony A7R to join my trusty Canon 5d2 and Fuji X100s. I have a Sigma 35mm 1.4, Zeiss 21 and a 70-200 IS 2.8, and i`m thinking on buying the sony 55 FE 1.8 too.

You can see my kind of photography here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/giamppiero/

I would like some advices from people who bought and use the A7r for Landscape photography and streetphotography, and what about the adapters experience, and general experience with the camera.

Thanks
João

Next purchase?

So, I've got a 70-200 2.8 II, 6D, and a 2.0 Tele III, and many other lenses, but, currently nothing longer than that. I really want a 200-400 1.4 but am hesitating because of the price. But, I was talking to photo professor at a local big time university, and he said with my 6D, I shouldn't buy the 200-400 unless I also (or first) buy a 1Dx body. I was holding off until the next generation since I like the 6D sensor, although I realize the 1Dx can do other stuff the 6D can't do. Which is more important to own- the 1Dx or the 200-400 1.4? If I get the 200-400 is it that important to get the 1Dx? Thoughts? A 200-400 1.4 with 1Dx total like $17,000! Ouch.

Canon and Stella McCartney Unveil Limited Edition Camera Bag Collaboration

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<p>Canon and Stella McCartney have announced an exclusive collaboration unveiling the limited edition Linda camera bag. Named after Stella’s mother and specially designed for the Canon EOS 100D White, the Linda camera bag combines fashion and technology with creativity and style.</p>
<p>Functional without compromising on style and true to Stella McCartney’s vegetarian philosophy, the Linda camera bag is completely cruelty free, crafted with an innovative Eco Alter Nappa leather alternative which uses natural vegetable oil coating that is less harmful to the environment. The stylish box shaped bag in a colour combination of matte neutral tones and metallic finish has been custom designed to house the Canon EOS 100D White, the world’s smallest DSLR camera. The chic EOS 100D is the perfect camera for those looking to explore the world of photography, whatever their skill level.</p>
<p>The camera bag also doubles as a sophisticated everyday handbag featuring an adjustable strap to be worn either over the shoulder or as a handheld tote.</p>
<p>A limited run of 1,000 bags will be produced and will only be available as a special package with the EOS 100D White. Within the UK, the package will be available from Harrods and Selfridges for £1,200.</p>
<div id="attachment_17493" style="width: 585px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/canonbag.jpeg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-17493" src="http://www.canonrumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/canonbag-575x575.jpeg" alt="The Canon & Stella McCartney collaboration." width="575" height="575" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">The Canon & Stella McCartney collaboration.</p></div>
<p>The special design collaboration between Canon and Stella McCartney was presented last night at the launch of the the 2014 London Stella McCartney Green Carpet Collection during London Fashion Week at a certified sustainable event co-hosted by Livia Firth, Natalie Massenet, Stella McCartney and Anna Wintour. The limited edition camera bag was presented alongside the designer’s exclusive sustainable evening capsule collection.</p>
<p>Stella McCartney is best known for her creativity, sense of style, innovation, and modern and ethical approach to fashion – making the brand a natural partner for Canon, which shares a mutual commitment to responsible and sustainable business.</p>
<p>Stella McCartney said, “Growing up with a mother and a sister who are photographers, I have fond memories of them pulling out cameras from their bags snapping and capturing moments. It was a no brainer to create a bag for this brilliant Canon camera, because it was really exciting to design something fashionable and stylish that encourages people to take photographs.”</p>
<p>Susie Donaldson, Marketing Director at Canon UK and Ireland said, “Photography and fashion have always gone hand-in-hand, with beautiful, evocative imagery at the heart of Fashion Week. For almost a decade, Canon has played an integral role in capturing the beauty, design, style and excitement of Fashion Weeks across Europe. We are thrilled to be collaborating with Stella McCartney, one of the most talent and admired designers, and extremely proud to be able to launch this striking piece at London Fashion Week.”</p>
<p><strong>Pricing and availability</strong></p>
<p>The Linda camera bag, complete with EOS 100D White will be available from Harrods and Selfridges on from early November 2014 for £1,200.</p>
<p>For more information please visit: <a href="http://www.canon.co.uk/stellamccartney">www.canon.co.uk/stellamccartney</a></p>
<p>Seen on [<a href="http://www.dpreview.com/articles/4473444242/canon-uk-introduces-limited-edition-stella-mccartney-bag-with-white-eos-100d" target="_blank">DPR</a>]</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">c</span>r</strong></p>

What 3rd party flash?

Hi, I currently own a 430EX and a 580EX, along with a number of Canon cameras (DSLR and Powershot).

I am looking for two extra flashes:

Flash A, to be used off-camera:
Must have:
  • ETTL optical slave (Canon optical wireless)
  • Dumb slave, so that I can trigger it with my Powershot
Nice to have: some kind of radio slave support, any system.

Flash B, to be used on- and off-camera:
Must have:
  • ETTL optical master & slave (Canon optical wireless)
  • Dumb slave, so that I can trigger it with my Powershot (currently S90)
  • zoom
  • AF assist (reliable)
  • some kind of radio master & slave support, any system
Nice to have: video LED.

What are the current choices?

mirrorless ?

I was wondering, are we all hoping to be using our lenses and flashes some day on a mirrorless camera? What is it that we want from this camera? do we want it to fit in our pocket? Do we want it to have a FF sensor? We certainly want the best AF Canon can muster, but do we want a little plastic computer hanging off the back our our teles? Or do we just want what we basically have now, - the mirror + any and all benefits that a mirrorless arrangement gives us?

EOS 7D Mark II: More High ISO Samples

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<p>Fotoblogia.pl has posted some sample images from the upcoming Canon EOS 7D Mark II. The images at ISO 3200 look pretty awesome to me, especially for APS-C. There’s not a lot of great imagery out there from the EOS 7D Mark II yet, so we should see even better results when the real world stuff comes out.</p>
<p>The initial reception to this camera based on specs was pretty tepid, which I didn’t understand. However, as the sample images and hands-on accounts have come out, there seems to be a pretty big shift to genuine excitement for the camera. I personally can’t wait to shoot some hockey with this camera come November.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/fotoblogia/sets/72157647629974871" target="_blank">View Sample Images</a></p>
<p><strong><strong>Canon EOS 7D Mark II $1799: <a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1081808-REG/canon_9128b002_eos_7d_mark_ii.html/bi/2466/kbid/3296" target="_blank">B&H Photo</a> | <a href="http://www.adorama.com/ICA7DM2.html?KBID=64393" target="_blank">Adorama</a> | <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NEWZDRG/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00NEWZDRG&linkCode=as2&tag=canorumo-20&linkId=4IHYPE3ZKJN5VL4X" target="_blank">Amazon</a> | <a href="http://www.cameracanada.com/enet-cart/product.asp?pid=7dmarkii" target="_blank">Camera Canada</a></strong></strong></p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">c</span>r</strong></p>

Shootout: EF 16-35 f/4L IS vs EF 17-40 f/4L

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<p><a href="http://www.grahamclarkphoto.com/canon-16-35mm-f4-review-hands-on-shootout-17-40/" target="_blank">Graham Clark</a> has completed a shootout between the latest Canon ultra wide angle zoom, the EF 16-35 f/4L IS and the always dependable and very popular EF 17-40 f/4L.</p>
<p>There are tons of RAW files and video to whet your appetite if you happen to be undecided between the two lenses, or if you’re not sure you want to “upgrade” your EF 17-40 f/4L. I found this to be about the most thorough review and comparison between the two lenses, as well as showcasing the EF 16-35 f/4L IS.</p>
<p><iframe width="500" height="281" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/K7n1L1QCjqU?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe></p>
<p><strong>Graham says in his conclusions

</strong><em>“The inclusion of Image Stabilization, incredible corner sharpness and bar-none the best CA performance on corners I’ve ever seen put the Canon 16-35 F4 IS at the top of a very short list of must-get Ultra-Wide Angle Zooms. If you’re a Canon or Sony landscape and/or a travel photographer in the market for a ultra-wide angle zoom, and/or you’re looking to upgrade whatever you currently have, this is the one to get.”</em></p>
<p><a href="http://www.grahamclarkphoto.com/canon-16-35mm-f4-review-hands-on-shootout-17-40/" target="_blank">Read the full shootout at GrahamClarkPhoto.com</a></p>
<p><strong>Canon EF 16-35 f/4L IS $1199: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00K8942SO/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00K8942SO&linkCode=as2&tag=canorumo-20&linkId=6AVWEQKBYJ7TXPHU" target="_blank">Amazon</a> | <a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1051475-USA/canon_9518b002_ef_16_35mm_f_4l_is.html/BI/2466/KBID/3296" target="_blank">B&H Photo</a> | <a href="http://adorama.evyy.net/c/60085/51926/1036?u=http://www.adorama.com/CA16354.html?kbid=64393" target="_blank">Adorama</a></strong></p>
<p><strong>Canon EF 17-40 f/4L $839: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00009R6WO/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00009R6WO&linkCode=as2&tag=canorumo-20&linkId=47LMPTCRS374COKV" target="_blank">Amazon</a> | <a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/279582-USA/Canon_8806A002_EF_17_40mm_f_4L_USM.html/bi/2466/kbid/3296" target="_blank">B&H Photo</a> | <a href="http://www.adorama.com/CA1740U.html?kbid=64393" target="_blank">Adorama</a></strong></p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">c</span>r</strong></p>

Patent: Improved Cooling for DSLRs

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<p>Canon has filed a patent that uses more of the camera as a heatsink to cool the electronics and most likely the sensor. I think this would be especially useful for video applications. 4K perhaps?</p>
<p><strong>Patent Publication No. 2014-171141 (Google Translated)</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Published Date 2014.9.18</li>
<li>Filing date 2013.3.5</li>
</ul>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-17483" src="http://www.canonrumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/coolingpatent.png" alt="coolingpatent" width="279" height="327" /></p>
<p><strong>Canon patents</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>An electric path for heat imaging devices , electric heating member group, member boric mount ring portion (heat sink) heat to low thermal conductivity of the resin, and the order of the mount ring</li>
</ul>
<p>Source: [<a href="http://egami.blog.so-net.ne.jp/2014-09-27" target="_blank">EG</a>]</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">c</span>r</strong></p>

Help: Canon 24mm f2.8 IS Vs. Canon 24mm f1.4L II for astrophotography

I am aware that these two lenses compete in different leagues in terms of build quality and IQ.
I am planning to get into astrophotography and many folks have told me that my 24-70mm f2.8L (I) will not be good enough.
There is a guy that is selling his 24mm f2.8 IS at a good price and the lens is in like-new condition, would you stay with the 24-70mm and give a try, or buy the 24mm f2.8 IS or keep saving and get the 24mm f1.4L II?

I am aware that there is a Rokinon 24mm f1.4 that seems to be a good option but I prefer to use canon. And my other current option will be my EF 15mm f2.8 (fisheye) lens.

If you go with any of the options, could you tell me why?

Thanks

Strange effect using 5D3 and 16-35 f/2.8L II

Hi,
just wondering about how this happened?

See the strange effect that the leaves have in the middle where the blue sky is the background, like chromatic aberation, but in light Blue I wasn't shooting into the sun, but it was a very bright day, taken late afternoon.

I couldn't get rid of it in LR due to parts of the sky having the same Blue colour.



Cheers Brian

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Dynamic Range - Try it for yourself, conclude for yourself: 5D III vs. A7r

I received my A7r rental from LensRentals today. I've been working, but I took a few minutes to snap some quick shots of my living room, with the goal of preserving the highlights of the bright sunlit outdoors in the front windows. To do that, I had to underexpose the foreground well below the levels that they appeared it my eyes.

I did not try to make any explicit exposure choices here. The goal was simply to expose for the highlights. These were shot from the hip, no tripod, no real planning. The goal was just to create a couple exposures with highlight preservation in mind, and see how the shadows handled some major pushing. I'll leave it up to each person to draw their own conclusions. I have provided a link to the raw files, so you can all download them, play with them yourself, and verify (or refute, if you prefer) the various claims made about DR.

Here are the original exposures:

A7rvs5DIII-ExposeforHighlightsSmall-2_zps113197bd.jpg

Canon 5D III

A7rvs5DIII-ExposeforHighlightsSmall_zps115aa47e.jpg

Sony A7r



Here are the exposures lifted to generally mirror what the room looked like to my bare eyes (+4EV, -100 Highlights):

A7rvs5DIII-ExposeforHighlightsPushShadows4stopsSmall-2_zps08a3d84d.jpg

Canon 5D III

A7rvs5DIII-ExposeforHighlightsPushShadows4stopsSmall_zps0b6ac9f8.jpg

Sony A7r



Just to see how far I could push things, here a couple more versions, not particularly "realistic", but still a good demonstration of what's possible and how the raw data reacts. No interpretation of the data needed here...5D III totally falls apart. A7r...noisy...but manageable.

Maximum push (+5EV, -100 Highlights, -100 Whites, +50 Shadows):

A7rvs5DIII-ExposeforHighlightsPushShadows5stopsSmall-2_zps4641d4d1.jpg

Canon 5D III

A7rvs5DIII-ExposeforHighlightsPushShadows5stopsSmall_zps30d8d68a.jpg

Sony A7r



Here are full size versions of the +4 stop pushed examples (zoom in on PhotoBucket for full size):

Canon 5D III

Sony A7r


Here are full size versions of the +5 stop pushed examples (zoom in on PhotoBucket for full size):

Canon 5D III

Sony A7r



Histograms

ETTR? Yup. Too much. On both cameras.

Histograms_zps7d7211cb.gif




You can download the raw files here:

http://1drv.ms/1ol6Km5




Finally got a chance to process one of the sets of images I got with the A7r and 5D III. This particular set of images I did not really expect to show any difference, however I think the subtleties and small push here might actually be best. I saw this rock with a patchwork of different kinds of mosses, frames in the spotty sunlight shining through some pine trees. I thought the light and shadow made for a decent example of DR.

Here are the original shots:

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Canon 5D III

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Sony A7r

Here are the shots processed to bring up the shadows:

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Canon 5D III (+2 EV, -80 Highlights, +100 Shadows)

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Sony A7r (+2 EV, -85 Highlights, +100 Shadows, +35 Contrast)



Here is a quick close-up comparison of the two key shadow areas after the 2-stop push.

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Raw files pending.

Canon 600mm f/4L IS II USM Purchase

My next lens is going to be the Canon 600mm f/4L IS II USM. I am an amateur and my photography is strictly for fun (lots of kids, sporting events, school trips, animals, charitable organizations). I could buy the lens today or buy it next March - I will enjoy it once I get it but I am in no rush. If the price stays the same, I would rather buy it today. If I could save $500 or $1,000 - I would rather wait...

With the recent price drop of many of the Canon lenses, I am curious if canon will have a rebate / special deal on this lens in the next six months? Maybe a Black Friday rebate? I have not followed Canon's historical approach to pricing so I would really appreciate anyone thoughts...

Have a GREAT week and thanks to everyone who makes this forum so fun to follow!

tom

Square or cross shaped sensors

Moving this topic from another thread since it was off topic.

Slyham said:
This conversation brings up a question I have had for a while. Why not have a square or a cross shaped sensor?

Let me explain. Say you are camping near a lake. First you take a picture of the lake during a sunrise. You set the camera to landscape at 16:9, or whatever you want, and only the pixels in that ratio is used in taking the shot. Next your child wakes up and is sticking her head out the tent door. So you switch to portrait 4:5 and you can hold the camera in the same comfortable position as you do in landscape and take the picture. The day goes on with different shots with different ratios.

Obviously this would only work with a mirrorless camera and you could not have a lens hood with pedals.

I think some of the advantages would be you get to hold the camera "normally" for portrait shots, you only use the pixels you want (thus keeping the size of files to a minimum), there is less cropping in post, etc.

What do you all think? Stupid idea or does it have some merit?

dak723 said:
The Olympus OM-D EM-1 mirrorless camera does not have a square or cross-shaped sensor, of course, but it does basically what you want (including portrait 3:4 without rotating the camera). If you shoot RAW, it will use all the pixels of its entire 4:3 sensor image, but JPGs are cropped as you specify.

So, yes, I would say your idea has merit!

Marsu42 said:
As far as I remember, there was a rumor inventive Sony were to release a square sensor ff camera. And it makes sense, after all the lens is round so you're essentially throwing away potential good pixels. The only idea I have that prevents this is that current lenses are qc-tuned for max. 3:2 and the glass might not be up for a 1:1 task? But this is ot, maybe you should open a new thread for this.

mrzero said:
Genius. I want to take portrait photos without removing my baseball cap. That's got to be worth a few grand more.

Speedlites - How many are enough?

Yeah, a question with no definite answer, but yet....

I have now sold two of my studio strobes (elinchrom), and am about to sell the other two I have. What I have left is my three 600ex rt and a st-e3. I am thinking about aquiring another three speedlites, to allow me the flexibility of having enough light for most situations that I will encounter as an amateur (with the occasional paid photogig). My main use will be a studio setup, but I would also like the opportunity to do HSS.

Any thoughts?

More Talk of an October Announcement of a DSLR [CR1]

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<p>There has been a lot of chatter about the possibility of Canon announcing a high megapixel DSLR some time in October. I have a feeling most of this is rooted in the <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/2014/09/a-new-eos-pro-body-with-46mp-next-month-cr1/" target="_blank">FM post from a little ago</a>. We continue to receive emails stating the camera is coming and the camera isn’t coming. So for now, I have nothing that shows an imminent announcement.</p>
<p>If something does come in October, I have a feeling it will be a development announcement or a camera that won’t ship for a long while. There seems to be a growing concern that people are tired of waiting for Canon to release a high resolution camera. It’s also suggested there’s a growing number of Canon shooters that are buying Nikon and Sony cameras to meet their needs.</p>
<p>Our specifications for the EOS 7D Mark II came about three weeks prior to the launch, so if there is indeed a camera coming in October, there should be better information soon (Unless it’s a development announcement).</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">c</span>r</strong></p>

GoPro can deliver 30 FPS for 1/2/3 seconds...

…and besides that burst, they now offer full manual exposure and better dynamic range.

It also sports 4K video at 30fps, HD at 120fps and now has a touch screen display on the back.

Now, why is it a cool little company like GoPro can offer all that in such a small package for such a low price and we are still content with these half ass improvements Canon keep offering at every line up.

Canon EOS 7D Mark II AF Guidebook Available for Download

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<p>Detailed explanations of how to master the 65-point cross-type AF. <a href="http://usa.canon.com/CUSA/assets/app/pdf/brochures/EOS_7D_Mark_II_AF_guide_CUSA_9-2014.pdf?WT.mc_id=C126149" target="_blank">Download the PDF here</a>.</p>
<div id="attachment_17477" style="width: 414px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="http://usa.canon.com/CUSA/assets/app/pdf/brochures/EOS_7D_Mark_II_AF_guide_CUSA_9-2014.pdf?WT.mc_id=C126149"><img class="size-medium wp-image-17477" src="http://www.canonrumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/7d2afguidebook-404x575.jpg" alt="Click Image to Download" width="404" height="575" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Click Image to Download</p></div>
<p><strong><strong>Canon EOS 7D Mark II $1799: <a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1081808-REG/canon_9128b002_eos_7d_mark_ii.html/bi/2466/kbid/3296" target="_blank">B&H Photo</a> | <a href="http://www.adorama.com/ICA7DM2.html?KBID=64393" target="_blank">Adorama</a> | <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NEWZDRG/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00NEWZDRG&linkCode=as2&tag=canorumo-20&linkId=4IHYPE3ZKJN5VL4X" target="_blank">Amazon</a> | <a href="http://www.cameracanada.com/enet-cart/product.asp?pid=7dmarkii" target="_blank">Camera Canada</a></strong></strong></p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">c</span>r</strong></p>

The future if Canon starts to buy sensors from Sony

So as it turns out, Sony is willing to sell some of their sensors:

http://www.dpreview.com/articles/0661793352/photokina-2014-sony-interview-we-still-need-to-create-more-lenses

Sony sensors can be found in cameras from several different manufacturers. How does your sensor business work?

When we make sensors we put them in several categories. [At any given time] one category of sensors is reserved purely for Sony cameras - we don’t sell them to other companies. Like the sensor in the A7S. But once we’ve enjoyed this advantage we might sell them on later, after some time has passed. This is the second category. The third category of sensors is completely generic - the sensors are created for use internally and to sell externally, to anybody. China or Taiwan or wherever.

and Canon does not discard to buy them:

http://www.dpreview.com/articles/7079726133/photokina-2014-canon-interview-mirrorless-in-the-very-near-future

Canon released two cameras at Photokina - the EOS 7D Mark II and PowerShot G7X. One thing we’ve learned is that the sensor in the G7X is not made by Canon. Does this represent a new philosophy at Canon?

We select the best sensor, whoever the manufacturer is. That’s our policy.

So, let us imagine that Canon releases a 5D mark IV with the 36MP pixels sensor from the D800 and the A7r. Let us suppose that Sony supplies the same slightly improved sensor to both Canon and Nikon for the next 2 generations of cameras. Then, suddenly, when both vendors are addicted to Sony's sensors and have almost completely dropped their R&D in sensor technology, Sony releases a killer 100MP sensor with zero noise at ISO 51200 and 24 stops of DR and decides not to sell it to any external vendor. Sony would absolutely take over the market!

Definitely, it looks like a good decision for Canon not to use Sony's sensors for their flagship cameras. But, don't you think that Nikon is already in Sony's hands?

  • Poll Poll
Poll: Would you buy a high MP Canon EOS 5DIV?

Poll: Would you buy a high MP Canon EOS 5DIV?

  • Yes! Would preorder the same day as it was announced.

    Votes: 36 13.0%
  • Yes. If the reviews confirm the hype.

    Votes: 35 12.7%
  • Probably. If the reviews confirm the hype and the price is right.

    Votes: 84 30.4%
  • Maybe. But only after the price comes down.

    Votes: 52 18.8%
  • No.

    Votes: 69 25.0%

The question is hypothetical and presumes

1) a 5DIV would improve generically on the 5DIII but with a significant MP boost (at least 32MP compared to the existing 22MP for the 5DIII)

2) the price range of such a camera would follow the pattern of the 5D-family (around 3.500$ at launch)

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