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curby · Dec 13, 2012

So, thread title says it all. I imagine it goes something like this:

Customer: Why isn't the 17-55/2.8 IS environmentally sealed?
Canon: That's a feature we offer on our L-designated lenses.
Customer: So weather-sealing is something that only high-end gear offers?
Canon: Essentially.
Customer: But prosumer bodies like the 60D are sealed as well.
Canon: Our innovative lens mounts allow such customers to use sealed EF lenses for a fully dust- and moisture-resistant system.
Customer: Due to the crop factor of such bodies, a 24-70/2.8 L would end up being too long.
Canon: You could use the EF 16-35mm f/2.8 USM L.
Customer: So the only option would be a lens that costs twice as much as the camera and is obviously intended for a different purpose and platform? Why do you offer sealed EF-S cameras, but no sealed general-purpose lenses intended for those cameras?
Canon: ... Jeez, you guys are picky.

schmidtfilme · Dec 13, 2012

Hello,

I have a Canon 6D and I want to order a 17-40. I am wondering what filter I need, slim fit (slim size, ... whatever you call that) or regular size. If I use a regular size filter will I see vignetting?

In addition - is it possible to stack filter? E.g. add on top of the UV filter a pol filter or will I see vignetting? My question is not related to the mechanical possibility but just on the optical, so will I see at 17mm the filter in the picture?

Thanks a lot for any help.

Best regards
- Andreas

Beautor · Dec 13, 2012

Here's the situation: My retired parents who are in Malawi, Africa doing humanitarian work were recently robbed and their point-&-shoot camera was among the things stolen. They have asked me to find a good camera for them to use when they take a little time off to visit some of the game preserves in the area. They do have a 2nd hand cheapo PS camera now for taking pictures of people, and things up close. My parents are not photographers, nor are they particularly tech savy. What they want is a camera with enough reach to take pictures of wildlife as they travel around the game preserve. My Dad estimates that what he is looking for is to be able to get a reasonably close picture of a kudu or a hippo from about 200' away. They are not especially wealthy so a setup like a 7D and 100-400L is unfortunately out of the question. They just want to be able to take good pictures of the amazing wildlife that they see when they go out driving.

After talking to them it looks like their budget is in the up-to $600-$700 price range. Currently I'm debating between a new good quality point & shoot like the Canon SX150 IS because it has a 12x zoom (28-336mm equivalent), it is compact, and is easy to use. This option is less expensive, but would hopefully give them much better reach than their 2nd hand PS that has a 3x zoom. Being a compact camera also makes it easier for them to carry with them without inviting undue attention from unsavory individuals.

The other option would be a Rebel with the 18-55mm & 55-250mm lenses. I think I can do the Rebel kit for around $600, or maybe even lower if I'm lucky shopping Kijiji for 2nd hand equipment(Craigslist isn't big in my area). This option provides slightly more reach, but is way bulkier. If they go with this option the camera would primarily stay in their appartment and only go out when they go sight-seeing because of the probability of being robbed again in the future. As for use, I highly doubt that the camera would leave the green mode, so the extra features of a DSLR are not especially needed.

What I'm asking is for feedback on the options I've come up with. I haven't used a PS style camera for quite a while so I'm not certain of the quality, and if it would be sufficient. Does anyone have any other recommendations in their price range?

Dec 13, 2012

Hi, My gear on safari trips is a 7D, 70-200mm f2.8 & 100-400mm lenses plus 1.4 & 2.0 converters (& a selection of W/A etc).
No problem in autofocus without the converters BUT,
Is there any way I can get the 100-400mm lens to autofocus with a converter on?

Dec 13, 2012

I read lens reviews with great interest - The job can wait ....
The MTF charts tell me of the improving standards and which lenses to drool for.
Now some recent reviews ask whether the actual lens’ performance exceeds the ability of the sensor being used in the tests.
Here is the question the other way round: Which lenses will match the awaited 40+ MP "Hawk-eye" sensor?
Here is my camera-bag:
5Dc and 5D MkII houses
50mm /1.4, Old Tamron 28-200 , TS-E 24 L (old), 16-35 / 2.8 L II, 70-300 L
Recently invested in a 24mm 2.8 IS as my price-dropped, but still expencive - pancake.
Which of them would survive a possible (theoretic) upgrade to a monstrous 40+ MP house? That is: will they give pictures sharp enough to justify the upgrade?
And how many other lenses would?
Will the new multi-MP cameras have many options, other than prime lenses in the future?
Or will we see new lenses with other optical qualities being sacrificed: CA, distortion, vignetting, etc., for higher MTF values?

Brymills · Dec 13, 2012

I picked up a new 24-70 F/2.8L II USM this week and from initial shots, it appears to have very bad vignetting. I'm not sure wether I'm expecting too much, or whether I have a duff copy? Due to work stuff I haven't really been able to test it properly, but so far, I'm not very impressed.
I'll upload some test shots this evening when I've got a bit more time free to play about with various focal lengths and f numbers.

Dec 13, 2012

I recently bought a Yongnuo YN560 II flash for my 5d2.
The flash is firing individually on test, but not when connected.

1. Is there any setting in camera ? (On the menu when trying to set the 'Flash function settings' it says "This menu cannot be displayed. Incompatible flash or flash's power is turned off"

2. What will be the problem? Please help...

nismohks · Dec 13, 2012

Hi,

i need to get a filter for my 85 1.2L and was wondering if this filter will work properly as i had read that these slim filters have a different front trim so that some lens caps dont work and also that you can't fit the lens hood over it.

Has anyone used this filter with the canon 85 1.2L?
Or maybe the 135 2L?

i ask because i can get a good price on this slim filter but i also have the non-slim one too, so i can either use that on the 85 and get the slim for the 135 or just use the slim on the 85 if it is compatible.

anyone have any experience using B+W's slim range?

Thanks

Marsu42 · Dec 13, 2012

This question has been bothering me for some time, esp. after procrastinating in forums while trying to decide what expensive gear is eventually "worth it" to me

... please not I'm not trolling and applaud everyone who puts his/her money into expensive gear to get shots just for the sake of remembering his/her kids or such.

So here it goes: When looking at a lot of sample shots, I'm wondering "would have that gear been necessary", and the inverse question "What shots can *only* be taken with this kind of equipment" and why is an expensive dlsr necessary at all?.

My guess is that a good part of the dslr market segment is populated by 30-40+ year old males who made their first photographic good experiences with analog dslrs (me, too). They just stick to the good ol' ways while the companies know these customers are rather well off by now and will respond to "quality" and "feature" upselling, so they exploit these suckers pushing the next $3500 camera or $2000 lens to customers who feel secure when having expensive gear.

I think I'm not alone with this question, and the difficulty often results in pro photogs either recommending "just get a [enter latest model name here], you'll never regret it" or the exact opposite "no need for the latest equipment". So here is my list that a dslr with proper equipment is good at, i.e. as a pro shooter you are well advised to take it into consideration or you'll end up being asked "My grandma could have shot that with her p&s"...

lighting: multiple off-camera flashes that are reliably triggered with fast x-sync or hss give a distinct "non-p&s" impression
thin depth of field and/or strong bokeh: can only be done with expensive lenses with large glass elements, and esp. fast primes
shooting reliability, i.e. more "keepers": while you can take good shots with nearly every equipment, it is seldom or never known how many shots or opportunities were lost. This concerns button layout, af precision, ...
shooting moving objects: pro dslrs are faster, at least at the moment. That concerns af speed/tracking, shutter release time and fps - the latter being better on mirrorless.
shooting in extreme natural conditions: pro dlsr equipment is sealed and sturdy, but for many usages throw-away equiment might make more sense and outodoor/underwater p&s will be there sooner or later.
shooting in difficult lighing conditions: the best sensors will always be the most expensive and eventually end up in dlsr equipment, meaning more dynamic range (well, with Nikon ) and higher iso capability for faster shutter speeds or low light shooting
(super)tele shots: longer focal lenght with decent quality is and will be a domain of expensive equipment
sharpness for large prints: while the next iPhone will probably have more mp than the current Canon crop cameras, attaching a $1000+ lens will still make a difference.
composition: a large ff viewfinder enables you to concentrate on the shot, at least as long as there are no dencent electronic viewfinders for p&s around

... added, though imho only slightly valid because a eos-m takes ef lenses, too:

macro capability: true 1:1 (or higher), not just 'close focusing' as 'macro' has come to mean in the P&S world
tilt-shift lenses: ability to correct for perspective distortion, and manipulate the DoF/plane of focus in a way other that a uniform linear distance from the camera

Let me know if anything else comes to your mind what's the sense of buying a dlsr system.

Dec 13, 2012

Hi all,
I have my cousin gifted the above Nikon lens from USA telling it is great for landscapes with very sharp images. But I do not have a suitable adapter to use on my 5d2 body.

1. Which adapter available in India?
2. Anybody have any experience with this combination?

I will be thankful for the help with any information in this subject.

Dec 13, 2012

Hey guys, so I was wondering if anyone has heard of when the 6d would be available in Australia? It appears from ppls posts that we are the only country who don't have it yet. One chain store told me only yesterday that they don't expect it at least til march!

sagittariansrock · Dec 12, 2012

So I finally upgraded my 70-200 2.8 IS to the vII, and I am faced with the following facts:
[list type=decimal]
[*]The 70-300, while good for it's price, does not have a very fast AF.
[*]Since I have owned the 70-200 2.8 IS vI I have hardly taken the 70-300 out.
[*]300mm @f/5.6 isn't really useful for birding- in fact there isn't really much use for 200-300mm for me on a regular basis.
[/list]
So I am thinking of selling it in favor of a 1.4x teleconverter to use when needed.

Let's break down the questions:

How is the 70-200 II plus 1.4x AF speed? Please comment on both II and III and the Kenko ones, if you have used them. [As a reference, the Tamron AF is faster than the non-L Canon but much slower than the L. More than enough for slowly moving subjects (humans) but not fast moving ones (birds)]
Have you used more than one version of the 1.4x TC? I don't have a weather-sealed body, and I believe the II added only weather-sealing. So if there's not a world of difference between II and III, would I be fine with the I?
Do you use your 70-300mm variable zooms (L, non-L, third party, whatever) between 200-300mm? If so, when?

As always, your input is greatly appreciated.

poias · Dec 12, 2012

Please help me understand why people are excited about 6D? I cannot be excited about 97% VF, 1 x-pt AF, crippled 6D with wifi and facebook buttons. I will stick to a 5-year-old beloved 5D Mark II which is identical in IQ to Canon's newest sensors. Canon, you are not getting a dime of my money on your recent cameras. I have diversified my lenses so am not hostage to inferior sensors anymore.

Dylan777 · Dec 12, 2012

Back in 2008, I would say "you are crazy if you spend over $500 on camera gear". Little P&S was fine for me at that time.

Well....after my wife and I welcomed our 1st child Sep 8th 2008, the money I spent into DSLR gear increased slowly.

2012 is my highest record spending into camera gear.

A. Bought 5D III @ $3500
B. Bought 24-70 f2.8 II @ $2300
C. Bought 50L @ $1439

D. Thinking about another 5D III as a 2nd body - if BH or Adoroma have some good deals this x-mas.

Trust me..... I DO NOT have million dollars in the bank nor making money from photography. This is just family photos.

What about you? What is your record spending into camera gear?

Dylan

Dec 12, 2012

Messing with paint.

stoneysnapper · Dec 12, 2012

Hi, I've had this lens for a while now and its not one I use too often however I noticed the other day that in shots I used it for that it is showing exif data of 105mm and not 100mm when used on a 1Dx. Previously it had been ok and showing at 100mm, I've just checked it on my 7D and it is showing as 100mm. I've not come across exif data being misread before, anyone else seen this with either this lens or any other? Not the end of the world but just a query.

Dec 12, 2012

So I was wondering, if higher pixel density is useful for landscape photos, would the 7D be a more useful tool for the job than say the 5Ds or 6D. As I understand it (which may not be very well...) the shallower DOF with FF is no advantage and neither is high ISO capabilities if shooting with good ambient light (which most landscape shots tend to have I think).

I ask because i want to take more landscape shots. I currently own a 40D and am thinking of getting a 10-22mm. However, i will prob upgrade from the 40D in the new year (once we know what's happening with the 7D line) and may move to full frame (which would make the 10-22 redundant).

My first post btw - thanks all

Eneade · Dec 12, 2012

Hi there !

I've been using my T3i for a year now and I am bored by the AF and ISO abilities of the camera.
My gear consists in the 18-55 kit lens // 35L // 50 f/1.4 // 85 f/1.8 // 70-200 f/4L IS and I'm mainly doing "street photography".

I'm considering going FF with a 5D3, I am convinced the AF and ISO performance are all I will need for some time.

My concern is that my main lens currently is the 35L (FF equivalent of 56mm) so my main lens with a FF camera would be my 50 f/1.4, which is definitely not as good as my 35L (sharpness at f/1.4 on the 35 blows the 50 until about f/2.5).

How will the 50 f/1.4 on a FF body compare to the 35L on a crop sensor (giving that I shoot a lot wide open) ?
I hope people here have been on the same boat and can give me some advice ;-)

curby · Dec 12, 2012

Background:

I shoot wildlife, landscapes, travel, indoors, low-light, etc. Not much portraiture or action. I currently have a 450D with a 17-55/2.8 IS and 70-200/4 L IS. My main non-artistic weakness is shaky hands, which is why I use, and only seriously consider, lenses with IS.

Goals in upgrade:

[list type=decimal]
[*]Better noise in low light/high ISO situations.
[*]Good AF (AF point coverage and performance, speed in focusing, UI for point selection).
[*]Availability of lenses.
[*]Low weight/physical size. (related: I won't be using two bodies)
[*]Environmental sealing.
[/list]

Crop/FF vs. Goals:

If I upgraded to a newer crop body, I'd gain better ISO performance, potentially better AF, opportunity for me to reuse my 17-55, maintenance of reach of my 70-200 (to 320mm), and likely lower weight than a FF option. The environmental sealing may or may not exist on the body, and definitely doesn't exist on the 17-55.

If I went with a 6D, I'd get better low light performance and better ISO performance, potentially better AF, and environmental sealing. I'd have to replace my 17-55 with the 24-70/4 L IS, which while smaller, sealed, and capable of near-macro performance represents more expense and one lost stop. I'd be able to continue using my 70-200 but would lose some reach on the FF sensor. And lastly, the 6D would likely be bigger and heavier than crop options.

How does the noise compare on something like a 60D with 17-55/2.8 IS, vs. a 6D with 24-70/4 IS? If the 6D has to go up in ISO to compensate for the smaller aperture, will the resulting noise generally be more or less than the crop body at a lower ISO? How about a 7D instead of a 60D? In short, how does the low light benefit of going FF compare to the loss of a stop in aperture?

Thanks for any advice and help you can offer.

alben · Dec 12, 2012

I would like a few filters, one to stop the sky, some for longer exposeres of waterfalls or seascapes, my main lens would be the 24-105, and would prefer something on the P system for other lenses. Budget of aprox £100, thanks,

Alan

WLaputka · Dec 12, 2012

Just posted a teaser from my shoot in the Holy Land a few days ago. Here's a short, 30 second vignette featuring just Petra. Ill update this thread with the remaining teasers as I finish them.

Enjoy

https://vimeo.com/55478406

Canon Rumors · Dec 12, 2012

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<strong>More non-L primes coming


</strong>Expect to see a new EF 50 f/1.4 IS sometime in 2013. There have been variations of a replacement for the very old (1993) EF 50 f/1.4 and it sounds like a 1.4 IS variant is going to be the winner. We have also heard of an f/1.8 IS version existing. Don’t expect such a lens to be much less than the $800 that the EF 24 f/2.8 IS, EF 28 f/2.8 IS and EF 35 f/2 IS all approximately cost.</p>
<p>The EF 85 f/1.8 is also in the works with an IS version we’re told. I haven’t heard anything about the very good EF 100 f/2 getting a replacement.</p>
<p>Source: [<a href="http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/Canon_new_lenses.html" target="_blank">NL</a>]</p>
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Ido · Dec 12, 2012

Hi all,

I'm planning my next purchase and I got confused after reading way too many reviews, so I though it would be best to ask you guys

I own a 60D with only one lens- the 40mm 2.8, and I think it's time for me to get a new one.
The 40mm is pretty awesome lens for its price, and it's so lightweight that you can carry it all day long, however, I found the focal length a bit too long when mounted on a crop sensor for everyday shots and as a walk-around lens, and it will probably be my backup lens.

Worth to mention that for me, photography is a hobby, and I'm not a pro.
I shoot all kind of styles - from street photography to landscapes and portraits (both in daylight and in lowlight environment)

I though about a versatile lens, something that will allow me to use wide angle to somewhat telephoto.

I thought about one of these lenses:

EF 17-40mm f/4L USM - Because I like the wide angle ( and I don't think the 17-35 justify the price tag)
EF 24-105mm f/4L IS EF USM - Looks like a very good range coverage, but I lose some of the wide angle.
EF 24-70mm f/4.0L - Looks good on the paper, but It's still not available, and I have an opportunity to purchase a lens now.

My budget is around 1200$ (give or take ~100\200$)

What would you get? are there any non-L lens that might be worth checking out? (I think I will upgrade to FF in the future, so I don't want to invest in EF-S lens.

Thanks for any assistance
Ido

604FF · Dec 12, 2012

Hi all 6D owners,

I just noticed that when the top focus point is lit, there is some very noticeable light bleeding around that focus point. I wonder if any of your 6D has the same issue.

Thanks.

Canon Rumors · Dec 12, 2012

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<strong>From DXOMark


</strong>DXO has released their impressions of the Canon EOS 6D pretty quickly. The camera receives a sensor score 82, which is on part with most of the Canon lineup.</p>
<p><strong>From DXOMark


</strong><em>“The EOS 6D offers a well-balanced performance across all three testing metrics, doing enough to put it into 10th place overall on the sensor rankings. Given the price, this does offer very good value for money, matched only by the Nikon D600. It suggests that this new market segment could be a real hotbed of key models for the major manufacturers and is therefore one to watch carefully.”</em></p>
<p><strong>CR’s Take


</strong>I just got my hands on an EOS 6D today, so I’m not yet a good person to ask as to whether or not the camera is a winner. I do like the size and weight, I’m all about trimming weight wherever I can in my kit. Give me a week or so, then you can start asking me your questions.</p>
<p><em><strong>Canon EOS 6D for $2099 at <a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/892349-REG/Canon_8035b002_EOS_6D_Digital_Camera.html/bi/2466/kbid/3296" target="_blank">B&H Photo</a> | <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009B0MZ8U/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B009B0MZ8U&linkCode=as2&tag=canorumo-20" target="_blank">Amazon</a> | <a href="http://www.normancamera.com/index/page/product/product_id/26833/product_name/Canon+EOS+6D+Digital+Camera+%28Body+Only%29+" target="_blank">Norman</a> | <a href="http://www.adorama.com/ICA6D.html?kbid=64393" target="_blank">Adorama</a></strong></em></p>
<p><em><strong>Canon EOS 6D w/24-105 f/4L IS for $2699 ($200 off) at <a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/892354-REG/Canon_8035b009_EOS_6D_Digital_Camera.html/bi/2466/kbid/3296" target="_blank">B&H Photo</a> | <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009B0MZG2/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B009B0MZG2&linkCode=as2&tag=canorumo-20" target="_blank">Amazon</a> | <a href="http://www.normancamera.com/index/page/product/product_id/26834/product_name/Canon+EOS+6D+Digital+Camera+with+Canon+24-105mm+f4.0L+IS+USM+AF+Lens" target="_blank">Norman</a> | <a href="http://www.adorama.com/ICA6DK.html?kbid=64393" target="_blank">Adorama</a></strong></em></p>
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