Canon Officially Announces the Canon RF 45mm f/1.2 STM

Interesting thought. Same here. sometimes I think I would prefer a 100 over an 85 as well as a 28 over a 35.
135 would be a bit too long for me. But I should try that out more often.
But the 50 mm range on FF was always challenging for me.
The 135mm L is a very versatile tele. Although it's a prime and not a zoom, I often choose it over my 70-200/2.8. Often the diference between framing with a 135 and a 200 is just one step closer. If you ahve a 2nd camera with a 24-70L, then you don't miss the zoom's bulk.
The old EF version is lighter and more portable, the new RF version has closer focus, greater max magnification, image stabiliser, sharper and slightly brighter.
If I had to choose only one prime, it would be a challenge between an 85mm and 135mm for me. But neither lenses are solo lenses, they need a 2nd lens on a 2nd camera to work well.
 
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Strange, that's true.
And they did the same on Canon USA's website, but with a different photograph from the same shoot.


The most ridiculous one is the last one, the one of that girl at the pier. Gives a good idea of the bokeh.
There's a video on that setting, on Canon Japan's Youtube channel.


So far, I've watched/read and downloaded all full-res files available on all the following reviews/presentations and, at this point, I'm not as optimistic as I was previously, I'm apprehensive, this doesn't seem like the right lens for me.


EDIT: I forgot this one:
 
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Finally a true "prime lens".

The true meaning of a prime lens was nearly lost in the past few years. Photography is mostly about creating art after all, and a good prime lens should be able to satisfy the artistic needs of those who purchase it.

I guess Canon is finally listening to its audience who are bored of flat rendering lenses and want to create magic with a prime possessing the magical attributes you would expect. At least now we don't have to carry with us old EF lenses and chunky adapters to produce some art.
 
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So far, I've watched/read and downloaded all full-res files available on all the following reviews/presentations and, at this point, I'm not as optimistic as I was previously, I'm apprehensive, this doesn't seem like the right lens for me.
I'm waiting for the definitive review from Chris Frost (...and the fact that he wasn't able, or wasn't already been given the possibility, to release its reviews says it all...), but from two specific reviews I saw, the one from TDP and a French video review on YT that I posted earlier in this thread, I got 95% of what I needed to know.
 
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This is $800 NZD here, which is cheaper than used sales of the EF 50mm f/1.2 L. Crazy in the best way.
That's pretty crazy! I picked up the RF1.2 on TM a while ago for $2200 NZD, and was pretty stoked with that price.

The arguments over the lack of native 3rd party RF lenses might be over if they continue to release more of these.
 
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I'm going to go out on a limb and ask, is that the actual color of that little clump of hair? Seems like an odd spot for such a chromatic aberration.
It’s reflecting the sun next to a blown out area. The lens really fringes a lot in the entire frame

@Richard CR
It is purple fringing. I forgot this link, that clears all doubts. We can see the girl’s hair from different angles.

Look at those trees

What a colorful world, it’s all sunshine and rainbows :ROFLMAO:

EDIT: BY THE WAY...

Yes, I'm aware this is a budget lens, segmentation and all. It makes sense for it to be displayed with the R8, but shouldn't the R8's EFCS create bokeh issues at f/1.2?
All samples I downloaded were shot with the R5 II and R6 III fortunately.
 
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Hopefully this cheapo / super expensive divide in prime lenses means the $1k price point is reserved for a Sigma 50mm 1.4. I would choose that over the four 50mm RF lenses so far.

Same goes for 35 and 85mm.
 
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Absolutely shocking MTF and CA for a 2025 lens, regardless of price. And FOUR stops of vignetting? Lest you forget, that's sixteen times darker in the corners.

If any smaller company released this it would be junked. Canon are just trading on their name now.
 
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I switched to the RF mount in 2020, first with an R5 and currently with an R5 II. From the outset, I had considered buying a second, smaller, lighter body. Initially, I considered the RP, then the R8, but as I have started making more videos recently, I finally took the plunge yesterday and ordered an R50V. It arrived today and is sitting on my shelf right now, eagerly awaiting the 1.2/45, which I also pre-ordered yesterday. The R50V pairs very well with the RF 1.8/24 IS STM, and I'm sure that, together with the 1.2/45, it will make a wonderful, small, lightweight kit for everyday use. I can't wait for it to arrive!
I liked the R50V a lot, but I sold it yesterday. The lack of useable electronic shutter bothered me more than expected. The AF wasn’t as good as the R8 either.
I would still like a camera in the R50V formfactor, but with R8 like performance :)

The R50V is great for video, though.
 
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I might be wrong in assuming that you might refer to a head shot taken at F1.2. If yes, below is my answer, if not; my apologies.

It is not about a cheap filter look; it is about having options when you need it.
Many assume that if I buy a 1.2 lens, I could use it only at F1.2
Reminder:
1 - depth of field is a function of distance. If people have been using it for a head shot at f1.2; that is their choice. I use my F1.2 when a full length person occupies 1/3rd of the screen. At that distance a dof of a 50mm 1.2 is deep enough. Believe it or not but under moon light, only that f-stop can save you from smear fat from a too high ISO without blurred movement.
2 - An f1.2 lens is a lot sharper at F1.8. Not because you bought an F1.2 that you will be shooting all the time at F1.2. In fact, I have Sirui F1.2 and I use it most of the time at F1.6. Finally, it is now time to be able to shoot with an auto-focus.
3 - having an F1.2 gives you chance to have that amount of light when needed, compared to not having it at all; cheap or expensive filter look.
4 - There are many things out there that don't care much about what is your dof. Flat surfaces for example; you can shoot them wide-open and dof is plenty enough.
Now, combine all four options and see if the lens might be useful to many photographers. I am sure that others have found other ways to use such a lens too.

Looking at an F1.2, or even F0.95 lens, I pay attention to sharpness, chromatic aberration, but mostly proneness to flare against the sun; then I decide if it is worth or not.

Having an F1.2 is about choices; compared to not having it at all. I wish Canon does the same thing at 20mm for example, without spending 2K.
I was joking a bit, but I do use my beloved 85mm f/1.2 II, to bring a bit more crazy example, even for street (preferably night settings), not only for typical head shots, often wide open. And this lens has really a small DoF distance in which a motif appears to be sharp. I then mostly shoot from a medium to bigger tele distance, and even complete people that then fit into the shallow DoF. But using such an extreme lens means that you really have to learn where it shines and where its limits are. Being undercorrected, this 85 shows a lot of lateral chromatic abberations in contrast rich settings - e.g. bright edges in light spots of night settings. Fortunately in the digital age this can easily be corrected by post-processing. But I never would use such a lens wide open in bright sunlight stettings, in fact, I'd never take it with me then. It is not made for lunchtime-in-the-desert settings ;)

With my EF 50mm 1.2 it is a bit of a different story, since this lens delivers nicely sharp images when stopped down, and it is relatively compact and light. So it is much more versatile as a standard prime lens one can carry frequently in a handy gear. And like you state, you always have the option to go up to f/1.2, with widens the application range of such a lens. That's quite attractive.

Regarding F/0.95 and 50mm I guess you may mean Canon's classic "dream" or "nightmare" (depending on the reception) 0.95/50mm lens with the classic Leica M39 thread mount (LTM) - for many years the fastest lens sort of "mass" (not really) produced industrially. I have two Canon 7 bodies with a set of 1950s/60s Canon lenses, but I am no collector, so I never was interested in investing several thousand dollars in that monster 50mm that Canon mainly created to show-off against Nikon in their new rivalry back then (before, they co-operated for many years, Canon made the cameras, Nikon the lenses). At least with a classic manual focusing rangefinder with 47mm rangefinder base, like the Canon 7 that was designed for this lens, in real life you never have any realistic chance to get a non-steady motif intentionally sharp wide open, only by pure chance. So, since I still use these vintage bodies for film photography (the soft but precise and luxury sound of its titanium shutter is already worth it), I got Canon's wonderfully compact and light 1.4/50mm lens. It makes much more sense for real photography (Canon made also a 1.2/50mm back then). Of course, with a modern ML camera and all its little EVF helpers, you may have more chances to get a motif that isn't particularly standing completely still, in focus with a superfast manual focusing lens.

My experience with superfast lenses over many years is, in a nutshell: only with a precise AF they are really useful in real life.
 
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I had several copies of the EF 50mm f1.2 L and I found it to be a frustrating lens to use. It was built like a tank and handled lfare really well. It had great colours and a lot of charector. BUT in low light (exactly when you want to use a f1.2 lens) it's AF was ponderous, hessitant and often would not lock on. I'm talking single point One shot mode.
That's no wonder that you had trouble with in-focus shots wide open. With such a superfast lens you need always to have "servo AF" activated, because the razor thin depth of field doesn't tolerate even small movements of the motif and the photographer for- and backwards. I used even my EF 85mm f/1.2 (single point or small AF range selected) very successfully for social shots with my 5D3, in fact my copy of that camera really shined in terms of AF precision with that lens - but always with servo AF activated. The EF 50mm f/1.2 focuses indeed less reliably wide open than the 85 II, I think because the contrast fall-off is more pronounced wide open, but still it worked quite well on my 5D3/4. My Tamron 24-70mm f/2.8 (G1) that I used for many years because it had a good VR and a good optical performance, was focusing much less reliably (I replaced it by an RF 24-70mmf/2.8).
 
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That's no wonder that you had trouble with in-focus shots wide open. With such a superfast lens you need always to have "servo AF" activated,
That’s not his point. All camera bodies can only achieve the maximum sensitivity for autofocus when using One Shot AF.
Many cameras in the past were rated at EV-3 using f/2.8 — that was achieved using only the central AF point in One Shot AF.
Current cameras are rated at EV-6,5 using f/1.2 — that is achieved using single point AF and One Shot AF as well, but now you can move the point around.
If you’re shooting in extremely low light, One Shot AF is the way to go, as Servo AF isn’t as sensitive.
 
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