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Someone above asked if P stands for Pro or plastic. Never before Canon had a pro camera in other color than black. So a multicolor grip would suggest a "plastic" = cheap camera. Not plastic as material.
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But what does 'follow the monehy' actually mean? I agree with the logic that this means a lower end model first, but the higher ends models have a higher profit margin which is why nearly all announcements on MFTs are now at the $1,500 - $2,000 bracket with lenses to match (admittedly they have already built a stable of good models at the lower end) and reflect Sony's targeted markets.
Knowing how Canon is very thorough about its market research then it depends what this research tells them. If there is more expectation at the
If research shows that there is a higher level of expectation at the $3,000 level (5DSR) then surely that will be a potentially better return? Maybe expectation is lower at the $1,200- $1,500 level and given the much-lauded size benefits of mirrorless, it may also be impacted by the M series?
Not plastic as material.
It also pulls people into your ecosystem. Even if the margin on the camera is low, the margin on lenses, batteries, adapters, etc is much higher. And once people pick a side, they'll tend to stay there. It's why Sigma has been so smart...make all your lenses adaptable and people will buy into Sigma lenses and care less about what body they ultimately have.Lower entry model doesn't require much R&D and may have higher margin. They also move alot of volume vs higher end model. I'm speculating that's where the money is. That probably make the most business sense but not for hard core enthusiasts or professionals.
And Im with you on this. Hoping the S1 delivers, and the Sony A7 series has evolved nicely too. After the 6dII flopped, and with no solid rumors of a 90D coming, I dont see my pathway forward with Canon as someone who needs solid video for professional work and a versatile photo camera for my personal work. My 80D/GH4 combo needs an update...and for travel it'd be nice if it was 80D/90D/6D sharing batteries in some form. But right now it's looking far more like I'm moving all Sony or all Panasonic within the year.I think it's time for me to consider switching camp, and revisit Canon in 2-3 years if they have a viable professional product. The rumor Panasonic S1 for $2000 has pique my interest.
I"m certain that there is something much more exciting in development and I totally agree that it doesn't make any sense to release the RF letnses if it were not for some higher-end camera model planned along the line. Personally I don't really see the point in releasing a lower specs R camera but let's say for now that the whole "follow the money"-aspect makes sense from a business point of view. Maybe we're all getting it wrong and all future planned R models, shouldn't be approached form a budget point of view but more towards functionality and "purpose" of the cameras. One more for action and sports, another one more for portrait and studio photography, and yet another one more for something else.....but that's just a wild speculation. We'll find out soon enough I supposeIf true, this means the EOS R, with an obsolete sensor, will be follow up with an even less capable camera with another recycled sensor. Why produce such great new lenses and then release cameras like these? Canon must have something much more exciting in development.
It also pulls people into your ecosystem. Even if the margin on the camera is low, the margin on lenses, batteries, adapters, etc is much higher. And once people pick a side, they'll tend to stay there. It's why Sigma has been so smart...make all your lenses adaptable and people will buy into Sigma lenses and care less about what body they ultimately have.
And Im with you on this. Hoping the S1 delivers, and the Sony A7 series has evolved nicely too. After the 6dII flopped, and with no solid rumors of a 90D coming, I dont see my pathway forward with Canon as someone who needs solid video for professional work and a versatile photo camera for my personal work. My 80D/GH4 combo needs an update...and for travel it'd be nice if it was 80D/90D/6D sharing batteries in some form. But right now it's looking far more like I'm moving all Sony or all Panasonic within the year.
RP "Revolution Postponed"
Sounds like Canon is slowing down. What a waste for RF50F1.2 and RF2870F2.
Pfttt. Who says pros are in a rush for it right now? What is doomed are the "Canon is doomed" comments.Where is the 1D X equivalent? Pros are never going to give up the 1D X bodies for the R body unless and until there is a pro body in the lineup. Canon might be doomed indeed.
Amazing, isn't it? They come out of the woodwork every time. I especially enjoy the ones who say things like, "Canon quickly threw this together to answer xyz company" as though they got up last week, saw XYZ company's upcoming release spec sheet, and said, "Oh crap! Get Billy Bob over there in the corner to throw something together for next month. They've got air between their ears. Can't say what I really think. I'd get banned. My suspicions are that these folks won't ever purchase what they say they wish for when it is released anyway. Why? Because, according to them, XYZ company is already selling what they say they want and they aren't buying it either.If you have been paying attention, the lower than current R body to come next has been widely known as to be the next release. Y'all are acting like the next R body will have a T2i sensor. I'm not sure but getting on a forum and spewing how Canon is Doomed (what's the acronym again?) while they continue to $$$$$ year after year seems to be a mental masturbation conundrum for you.
Have you used the EOS-R?Its hard to imagine what they could do to make the EOS R even worse,
Of course he hasn't. He's never even seen one in a store, held one, and wouldn't know the difference anyway.Have you used the EOS-R?
I don't expect everyone to have experience in tech production and to understand production timelines but still, these things are not knee jerk reactions and if I had a nickel for every time someone said how Canon should react to a release by Nikon or Sony.....Amazing, isn't it? They come out of the woodwork every time. I especially enjoy the ones who say things like, "Canon quickly threw this together to answer xyz company" as though they got up last week, saw XYZ company's upcoming release spec sheet, and said, "Oh crap! Get Billy Bob over there in the corner to throw something together for next month. They've got air between their ears. Can't say what I really think. I'd get banned. My suspicions are that these folks won't ever purchase what they say they wish for when it is released anyway. Why? Because, according to them, XYZ company is already selling what they say they want and they aren't buying it either.
Nokishita seems to think it’s a “sport” camera?