Catoptrophobia afflicts less than 4% of the population.Keep it up, Canon. Keep announcing meaningless cameras, instead of mirrorless cameras.
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Catoptrophobia afflicts less than 4% of the population.Keep it up, Canon. Keep announcing meaningless cameras, instead of mirrorless cameras.
Comprehension and context went flying right by you with my post. I had no intention of discussing your 'why', I was addressing the buying habits. How easily you missed that. 'Why' is up to Canon, not me. Now, some here believe they are more in touch with camera markets than Canon. That's cute.Yes, indeed. Slcklick and others theoretising about average joy buying his next hamburger, not understanding the basic message of those complaining and answering the questions noone asked. Everybody and your mom knows, that most ppl buy stuff without emotional attachement. So why state the obvious? The basic message was not about why the world needs another Rebel. But why the world needs it NOW? So competition announces e.g. A7R IV and Canon is expected to come up with exactly what - next Rebel? Really great marketing reaction then ....
Hardly. An ELPH is a kid's camera.Oh ! That is a kid's camera.
Comprehension and context went flying right by you with my post. I had no intention of discussing your 'why', I was addressing the buying habits. How easily you missed that. 'Why' is up to Canon, not me. Now, some here believe they are more in touch with camera markets than Canon. That's cute.
Let me guess, your definition of 'technology' is limited to image sensor DR and readout speed, right?Some ppl are fine with Canon being a sales leader, I would prefer Canon being a techology leader again. In the long term, it might make a difference.
If you had said you saw 7 Sony MILCs, 6 Canon ILCs and a Nikon, and Sony read your post, they’d issue a press release stating they are dominating the ILC market in major metropolitan tourism destinations.*^†I conducted an official, scientific survey today in lower Manhattan. 7 Rebels (or even less), 1 M series, 1 5D with an L lens, 3 Nikon crops, 1 point and shoot I couldn't make out. I saw maybe 5 people using cell phones for photos. Zero all else. This was over an hour of walking outside and two hours of visiting the Museum of the American Indian.
Edit: You're welcome.
All in one coffee shop with folks Instagramming their foodIf you had said you saw 7 Sony MILCs, 6 Canon ILCs and a Nikon, and Sony read your post, they’d issue a press release stating they are dominating the ILC market in major metropolitan tourism destinations.*^†
* based on a Sony survey
^ for one day in the month of August
† in Lower Manhattan
Let me guess, your definition of 'technology' is limited to image sensor DR and readout speed, right?
An image sensor with millions of AF points? Not technology.An f/2 standard-range zoom lens for FF? Not technology.Tilt-shift-macro lenses? Not technology.That's pretty narrow thinking. I bet you use 2 cm wide scratch pads to jot down your ideas.
In other words, you do define technology as only having to do with the image sensor. As I said...narrow thinking. People buy cameras to take pictures, sensors don’t take pictures – cameras and lenses take pictures.Right now, the biggest obstacle with Canon cameras, is its image sensor and related stuff, yes.
So to answer your questions:
- Focusing, DPAF might be an advantage, but as far as other cameras don't have focusing problem, one does not need to care. Go at the continuous tracking and bum, you are done. 2-3 fps anyone?
- Not a camera technology.
- Not a camera technology.
Canon’s ILC market share 10 years ago was ~44%. Canon’s ILC market share today is ~49%.That's not a narrow thinking, that's just your delusional thinking, that Canon leads the market. I've got new perspective for you - in last 10 years, Sony got from what actual numbers, to what actual numbers? Even if they would gain 10-20% of the market, it mostly means one fact - they took it from others - go figure.
Given the global ILC market share numbers above, I suggest you get your head out of whatever fantasyland it’s in and look at reality. Your anecdotal experiences while shopping are just that...personal anecdotes. Not data.Now my observation from the frequent visits of our probably biggest local stores (Megapixel), to get your head out from the US market for a moment. Being there, watching ppl, listening to dialogues, I can tell you that Canon is not the first brand being suggested, nor is it the brand ppl ask for as a first option. Hey, they even tried to break me (knowing we are all Canon) to get Sony with an adapter, instead of 5DIV.
There are soft influencers like market sentiment, status quo, hype (waves of popularity) and no matter what Canon numbers are, they are not the leaders of the trends, irrespectively of their eventual no 1 position on the market. Their numbers might be simply higher, if they would prevent shit storms like with the 6DII.
In other words, you do define technology as only having to do with the image sensor. As I said...narrow thinking. People buy cameras to take pictures, sensors don’t take pictures – cameras and lenses take pictures.
Incidentally, the biggest obstacle faced by Canon is the declining camera market, and its the biggest obstacle for all other manufacturers as well. The ‘image sensor and related stuff’ is overblown in the microcosm of some Internet forums, out in the real world where people buy cameras it’s not an obstacle for Canon at all...as the market numbers show (I mean the real market numbers, not the ones you made up in your head...).
Canon’s ILC market share 10 years ago was ~44%. Canon’s ILC market share today is ~49%.
Sony’s ILC market share 10 years ago was ~14% (they were selling some DSLRs and mostly NEX MILCs then, but abandoned DSLRs soon after because they were failing to compete with Cakon and Nikon). Sony’s ILC market share today is ~17%.
So in the past 10 years, Sony gained a little bit of market share (3%) and Canon gained a bit more (5%, both mainly at the expense of Nikon). That’s the perspective of facts and reality.
Your ‘new perspective’ is what’s delusional, and your thinking is both narrow and wrong.
Pro tip – if you’re going to base a logical argument on numbers, it helps to have at least a rough idea of what those numbers actually are. Lacking that you usually end looking foolish, as you’ve just effectively demonstrated.
Given the global ILC market share numbers above, I suggest you get your head out of whatever fantasyland it’s in and look at reality. Your anecdotal experiences while shopping are just that...personal anecdotes. Not data.
If Sony takes meaningful market share from Canon (not something like the 3% they’ve gained from Nikon over 10 years while Canon was gaining, too), then maybe you can make those claims and actually sound like you know what you’re talking about.
Until then, your words are as meaningless and hollow as the empty thoughts behind them.
I am not surprised that you trotted out the Nokia trope (though I'm a little surprised you didn't trot out the Kodak trope as well). Smartphones were a paradigm shift, and in less than a decade the non-smartphone mobile market was effectively dead. Similarly, digital cameras were a paradigm shift, and in less than a decade the film camera market was effectively dead. MILCs have been around for well over a decade, and DSLRs are still the majority of the ILC market, and Canon remains the dominant ILC market leader.Neuro, Nokia probably had hard numbers too, before first iPhone was released, right? So much for your dependency upon the statistical "evidence".
You mean the 'shift' from 'influencers' that has had no effect on camera sales? I get that you think the tail can wag the dog, but that's not the way reality works.I myself don't care much about the the tourists using an ILCs. If hammer could make an image, they would use hammer instead of the camera probably. I do care abou the ecosystem I live in - wedding photogs, studio groups, influencers. I know what kind of shift I am seeing in last cca five years.
Of course they update their sensor tech – what do you think DPAF is? They've updated their lens tech, they've updated their lithography tech, they've been granted more patents than any other Japanese company for several years running.I think that Canon knows, that at some point they need upgraded sensor tech. I bet that the new tech is in development for quite some time already, even if Canon might still be growing their numbers with recent tech. Based upon your logic of following only hard sales figures, there would not be much need for an innovation, or would it?
I had a Nokia smartphone before the first iPhone was released.Neuro, Nokia probably had hard numbers too, before first iPhone was released, right? So much for your dependency upon the statistical "evidence".
I do. I am a tourist, and I use an ILC.I myself don't care much about the the tourists using an ILCs.
I think that Canon is regularly upgrading its sensor tech. As well as other major manufacturers of any sensors.I think that Canon knows, that at some point they need upgraded sensor tech.
so the new rumored lenses are actually old lenses now being made available for purchase...sad...The Japanese rumor blog Nokishita just announced that "Canon will announce in the coming days:
- EOS 90 (body, 18-55 mm kit, 18-135 mm kit)
- EOS M6 Mark II (body, 15-45 mm kit, 18-150 mm kit)
- RF24-70 mm F2.8 L USM
- RF15-35 mm F2.8 L USM
- Lens hood EW-88E
- Lens hood EW-88F"
I am not surprised that you trotted out the Nokia trope (though I'm a little surprised you didn't trot out the Kodak trope as well). Smartphones were a paradigm shift, and in less than a decade the non-smartphone mobile market was effectively dead. Similarly, digital cameras were a paradigm shift, and in less than a decade the film camera market was effectively dead. MILCs have been around for well over a decade, and DSLRs are still the majority of the ILC market, and Canon remains the dominant ILC market leader.
Along the same lines of knowing the numbers before you base claims on them, you should try to actually understand the examples you are citing, instead of blindly parroting rehashed tropes.
You mean the 'shift' from 'influencers' that has had no effect on camera sales? I get that you think the tail can wag the dog, but that's not the way reality works.
Of course they update their sensor tech – what do you think DPAF is? They've updated their lens tech, they've updated their lithography tech, they've been granted more patents than any other Japanese company for several years running.
Your whole premise is that 'sensor tech' is holding them back. Reality proves you wrong.
But hey, you go right on believing that the two stores you shopped in last week and the three photographer buddies you chatted with yesterday represent the market. Clearly, you like fantasy better than reality.
Influencers, ugh. We've really sunk to a new low in the Kardashian IG world.