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But....haven't you been telling us how Sony is decimating Sony's market share, what with their EVFs an' all.
As of "now" there is no EVF in the world that offers all the advantages of an OVF for sports in bright light. Bloom, Lag, Color, Noise

"Rumors" are that the R1 will address this. Everyone including Nikon and SONY are waiting to see if this is true. Canon is not tipping their hand nor are their patents to research which leads many to think the EVF is a "joint-venture".

The R3 will buy Canon time.... But if the R1 is not "at least" double the resolution of the 1DXMKIII it will not sell as expected. That means that 40MP will not work... As most of you know,,, 40MP is NOT double the resolution. User determined file size from 85MP down to accommodate buffer to a sweet spot of 15fps RAW. Sports photographers know how to change files size...... ;)

Telling us "all you need is 20MP" is an insulting and condescending "script" in 2021.... as it was in 2020.

Some would go so far as to say.... remove the video from the IDXMKIII... Utilize the new focus system, double resolution and keep the OVF. A specialized "Stripped Down" camera for sports professionals.

Improve sealing, put in dual same media CFExpress, limit the camera to 15fps RAW. For kicks add auto MA for our big whites and the ability to update lens firmware with the camera tethered.

Cross-points across the entire VF. I would pay $8,000 per copy for this stripped down camera
 
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I think that what Canon has in mind for the R1 is not there yet and the R3 will be pushing the boundary as it is and perhaps a stop-gap but I suspect it'll be filling a neglected niche. The idea of a flagship camera being the one and only, the best at everything is antiquated unless you can make it adaptable to various scenarios. For example, if it could function in two modes - higher MP lower speed and lower MP higher speed without any compromises.

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higher MP lower speed and lower MP higher speed without any compromises. BINGO
 
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As of "now" there is no EVF in the world that offers all the advantages of an OVF for sports in bright light. Bloom, Lag, Color, Noise

"Rumors" are that the R1 will address this. Everyone including Nikon and SONY are waiting to see if this is true. Canon is not tipping their hand nor are their patents to research which leads many to think the EVF is a "joint-venture".

The R3 will buy Canon time.... But if the R1 is not "at least" double the resolution of the 1DXMKIII it will not sell as expected. That means that 40MP will not work... As most of you know,,, 40MP is NOT double the resolution. User determined file size from 85MP down to accommodate buffer to a sweet spot of 15fps RAW. Sports photographers know how to change files size...... ;)

Telling us "all you need is 20MP" is an insulting and condescending "script" in 2021.... as it was in 2020.

Some would go so far as to say.... remove the video from the IDXMKIII... Utilize the new focus system, double resolution and keep the OVF. A specialized "Stripped Down" camera for sports professionals.

Improve sealing, put in dual same media CFExpress, limit the camera to 15fps RAW. For kicks add auto MA for our big whites and the ability to update lens firmware with the camera tethered.

Cross-points across the entire VF. I would pay $8,000 per copy for this stripped down camera
It's not possible to keep an OVF with RF mount - no room for a mirror.
 
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As of "now" there is no EVF in the world that offers all the advantages of an OVF for sports in bright light. Bloom, Lag, Color, Noise

"Rumors" are that the R1 will address this. Everyone including Nikon and SONY are waiting to see if this is true. Canon is not tipping their hand nor are their patents to research which leads many to think the EVF is a "joint-venture".

The R3 will buy Canon time.... But if the R1 is not "at least" double the resolution of the 1DXMKIII it will not sell as expected. That means that 40MP will not work... As most of you know,,, 40MP is NOT double the resolution. User determined file size from 85MP down to accommodate buffer to a sweet spot of 15fps RAW. Sports photographers know how to change files size...... ;)

Telling us "all you need is 20MP" is an insulting and condescending "script" in 2021.... as it was in 2020.

Some would go so far as to say.... remove the video from the IDXMKIII... Utilize the new focus system, double resolution and keep the OVF. A specialized "Stripped Down" camera for sports professionals.

Improve sealing, put in dual same media CFExpress, limit the camera to 15fps RAW. For kicks add auto MA for our big whites and the ability to update lens firmware with the camera tethered.

Cross-points across the entire VF. I would pay $8,000 per copy for this stripped down camera
Why would you need auto MA on a MILC?
 
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No its just not practicle if it sacrifices resolution. And this has been the case in the past. If the camera is supposed to be for professionals, we dont use anything like this to shoot video. One of our lenses could cost $250,000. What we want is simple for still sports photography and its beyond many who have not worked in the business for 20+ years to understand. Canon is motivated by enthusiasts for the bottom line, it does not mean we have to be silent or happy with what affects us.

All we asked for in the last focus group with Canon was enhanced resolution, dual same media, greater sealing, 15 fps RAW, auto MA, end user firmwear capabililites on our big whites. Four of us asked for "sealed" external hard drive capabilities in the 2-4TB range for "harsh" shooting conditions with "buffering" in line with CFExpress.
No its just not practicle if it sacrifices resolution. And this has been the case in the past. If the camera is supposed to be for professionals, we dont use anything like this to shoot video. One of our lenses could cost $250,000. What we want is simple for still sports photography and its beyond many who have not worked in the business for 20+ years to understand. Canon is motivated by enthusiasts for the bottom line, it does not mean we have to be silent or happy with what affects us.

All we asked for in the last focus group with Canon was enhanced resolution, dual same media, greater sealing, 15 fps RAW, auto MA, end user firmwear capabililites on our big whites. Four of us asked for "sealed" external hard drive capabilities in the 2-4TB range for "harsh" shooting conditions with "buffering" in line with CFExpress.
Generally, professional sports and wildlife photographers love 30 fps. It can make the difference getting the perfect shot. An articulating screen is a wonderful advancement for getting correct perspective.
 
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Generally, professional sports and wildlife photographers love 30 fps. It can make the difference getting the perfect shot. An articulating screen is a wonderful advancement for getting correct perspective.
On the sidelines or from the press box 99.99% of the time we don't use or need an articulating screen. With 2.8/300 and 400mm we are hand holding most of the time on the field or for Olympic and Extreme sports the OVF is key here and again no articulating screen.

For 800mm 600mm 200-400mm 99.99% we are on a tripod/ mono-pod, with and without gimbal. Again.... we are not using articulating screens.

They break! This has been our experience and they are another pathway for moisture and dirt aside from braking for the "hard knocks" our equipment takes.

Running on the field to get shots after the game/event are the key use for these screens when it's an important event and you're surrounded by 4-6 layers of people. A inexpensive 90D with a 16-35 held overhead at 10fps is perfect. If the camera breaks you don't care.
 
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On the sidelines or from the press box 99.99% of the time we don't use or need an articulating screen. With 2.8/300 and 400mm we are hand holding most of the time on the field or for Olympic and Extreme sports the OVF is key here and again no articulating screen.

For 800mm 600mm 200-400mm 99.99% we are on a tripod/ mono-pod, with and without gimbal. Again.... we are not using articulating screens.

They break! This has been our experience and they are another pathway for moisture and dirt aside from braking for the "hard knocks" our equipment takes.

Running on the field to get shots after the game/event are the key use for these screens when it's an important event and you're surrounded by 4-6 layers of people. A inexpensive 90D with a 16-35 held overhead at 10fps is perfect. If the camera breaks you don't care.
Its tough to make a specialty camera for one specific use. The manufacturer has to try to balance various user groups' needs with tech innovation, cost of production and estimated market size, as well as selling price.

Thus, every camera going forward will have video capability, not having it would be marketing suicide. And to have video you need some type of articulating screen.

Nikon Z only have tilt screens and are heavily criticized by many for it.
 
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I think Canon needs to respond to the Sony ZV-E10.
It is a huge threat to the EF-M mount cameras.
It will not dethrone the M50 since it will cost so much less but it is rumored to cost the same as the M6 Mark II.
As much as I would like to see a new EOS M camera, Canon can respond by simply lowering the price of the existing M6 Mark II.
Although, all Canon would have to do is make an M6 Mark II with a screen that flips out to the side.
They would only have to make an announcement and that would steal much of the thunder from Sony.
yeah i feel we are letting go the junior/mid market {not beginner or senior} ... R6 is never for mid market range
 
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Maybe Pentax in your future?
I hope not but if Canon and Nikon abandon DSLRs then it will be.
I would rather stick with Canon but that is up to Canon.
I enjoy using DLSRs and find them useful.
Owning several mirrorless cameras as well does not change that.

PS: I also drive a car with a manual transmission.
 
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I’m seeing more and more pro sports shooters using EVF’s, so it clearly isn’t “vital to sports”.
More and More? Not one! As in zero. Not at our "agency" or those we compete with. As for "Press"... we see kids and adults sent from locals that show up with cell phones, P&S and assorted low-budget kits and their work product reflects their exp and equipment. You get what you pay for on both sides of the lens.
 
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More and More? Not one! As in zero. Not at our "agency" or those we compete with. As for "Press"... we see kids and adults sent from locals that show up with cell phones, P&S and assorted low-budget kits and their work product reflects their exp and equipment. You get what you pay for on both sides of the lens.
And yet some situations clearly favor MILC’s, golf backswings and tennis are two I personally know where true silent shutters that MILC’s enable shots DSLR users cannot get.
 
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