Upvote
0
Maybe Pentax in your future?The R3 has an EVF. Big disadvantage for sports. But tell us what you know that "The R3" beats a 1DXMKIII. We all would like to know
So we wait for the R1 and hope it will be "serious"
As of "now" there is no EVF in the world that offers all the advantages of an OVF for sports in bright light. Bloom, Lag, Color, NoiseBut....haven't you been telling us how Sony is decimating Sony's market share, what with their EVFs an' all.
higher MP lower speed and lower MP higher speed without any compromises. BINGOI think that what Canon has in mind for the R1 is not there yet and the R3 will be pushing the boundary as it is and perhaps a stop-gap but I suspect it'll be filling a neglected niche. The idea of a flagship camera being the one and only, the best at everything is antiquated unless you can make it adaptable to various scenarios. For example, if it could function in two modes - higher MP lower speed and lower MP higher speed without any compromises.
Jack
It's not possible to keep an OVF with RF mount - no room for a mirror.As of "now" there is no EVF in the world that offers all the advantages of an OVF for sports in bright light. Bloom, Lag, Color, Noise
"Rumors" are that the R1 will address this. Everyone including Nikon and SONY are waiting to see if this is true. Canon is not tipping their hand nor are their patents to research which leads many to think the EVF is a "joint-venture".
The R3 will buy Canon time.... But if the R1 is not "at least" double the resolution of the 1DXMKIII it will not sell as expected. That means that 40MP will not work... As most of you know,,, 40MP is NOT double the resolution. User determined file size from 85MP down to accommodate buffer to a sweet spot of 15fps RAW. Sports photographers know how to change files size......
Telling us "all you need is 20MP" is an insulting and condescending "script" in 2021.... as it was in 2020.
Some would go so far as to say.... remove the video from the IDXMKIII... Utilize the new focus system, double resolution and keep the OVF. A specialized "Stripped Down" camera for sports professionals.
Improve sealing, put in dual same media CFExpress, limit the camera to 15fps RAW. For kicks add auto MA for our big whites and the ability to update lens firmware with the camera tethered.
Cross-points across the entire VF. I would pay $8,000 per copy for this stripped down camera
Why would you need auto MA on a MILC?As of "now" there is no EVF in the world that offers all the advantages of an OVF for sports in bright light. Bloom, Lag, Color, Noise
"Rumors" are that the R1 will address this. Everyone including Nikon and SONY are waiting to see if this is true. Canon is not tipping their hand nor are their patents to research which leads many to think the EVF is a "joint-venture".
The R3 will buy Canon time.... But if the R1 is not "at least" double the resolution of the 1DXMKIII it will not sell as expected. That means that 40MP will not work... As most of you know,,, 40MP is NOT double the resolution. User determined file size from 85MP down to accommodate buffer to a sweet spot of 15fps RAW. Sports photographers know how to change files size......
Telling us "all you need is 20MP" is an insulting and condescending "script" in 2021.... as it was in 2020.
Some would go so far as to say.... remove the video from the IDXMKIII... Utilize the new focus system, double resolution and keep the OVF. A specialized "Stripped Down" camera for sports professionals.
Improve sealing, put in dual same media CFExpress, limit the camera to 15fps RAW. For kicks add auto MA for our big whites and the ability to update lens firmware with the camera tethered.
Cross-points across the entire VF. I would pay $8,000 per copy for this stripped down camera
No its just not practicle if it sacrifices resolution. And this has been the case in the past. If the camera is supposed to be for professionals, we dont use anything like this to shoot video. One of our lenses could cost $250,000. What we want is simple for still sports photography and its beyond many who have not worked in the business for 20+ years to understand. Canon is motivated by enthusiasts for the bottom line, it does not mean we have to be silent or happy with what affects us.
All we asked for in the last focus group with Canon was enhanced resolution, dual same media, greater sealing, 15 fps RAW, auto MA, end user firmwear capabililites on our big whites. Four of us asked for "sealed" external hard drive capabilities in the 2-4TB range for "harsh" shooting conditions with "buffering" in line with CFExpress.
Generally, professional sports and wildlife photographers love 30 fps. It can make the difference getting the perfect shot. An articulating screen is a wonderful advancement for getting correct perspective.No its just not practicle if it sacrifices resolution. And this has been the case in the past. If the camera is supposed to be for professionals, we dont use anything like this to shoot video. One of our lenses could cost $250,000. What we want is simple for still sports photography and its beyond many who have not worked in the business for 20+ years to understand. Canon is motivated by enthusiasts for the bottom line, it does not mean we have to be silent or happy with what affects us.
All we asked for in the last focus group with Canon was enhanced resolution, dual same media, greater sealing, 15 fps RAW, auto MA, end user firmwear capabililites on our big whites. Four of us asked for "sealed" external hard drive capabilities in the 2-4TB range for "harsh" shooting conditions with "buffering" in line with CFExpress.
On the sidelines or from the press box 99.99% of the time we don't use or need an articulating screen. With 2.8/300 and 400mm we are hand holding most of the time on the field or for Olympic and Extreme sports the OVF is key here and again no articulating screen.Generally, professional sports and wildlife photographers love 30 fps. It can make the difference getting the perfect shot. An articulating screen is a wonderful advancement for getting correct perspective.
Its tough to make a specialty camera for one specific use. The manufacturer has to try to balance various user groups' needs with tech innovation, cost of production and estimated market size, as well as selling price.On the sidelines or from the press box 99.99% of the time we don't use or need an articulating screen. With 2.8/300 and 400mm we are hand holding most of the time on the field or for Olympic and Extreme sports the OVF is key here and again no articulating screen.
For 800mm 600mm 200-400mm 99.99% we are on a tripod/ mono-pod, with and without gimbal. Again.... we are not using articulating screens.
They break! This has been our experience and they are another pathway for moisture and dirt aside from braking for the "hard knocks" our equipment takes.
Running on the field to get shots after the game/event are the key use for these screens when it's an important event and you're surrounded by 4-6 layers of people. A inexpensive 90D with a 16-35 held overhead at 10fps is perfect. If the camera breaks you don't care.
Agreed Chig...but RP is very old {compared to current cameras/features} ...we are sadly missing a upgrade between $1000 - $2000 segmentRP costs $1000 and I'm sure there will be more new R models at similar prices
yeah i feel we are letting go the junior/mid market {not beginner or senior} ... R6 is never for mid market rangeI think Canon needs to respond to the Sony ZV-E10.
It is a huge threat to the EF-M mount cameras.
It will not dethrone the M50 since it will cost so much less but it is rumored to cost the same as the M6 Mark II.
As much as I would like to see a new EOS M camera, Canon can respond by simply lowering the price of the existing M6 Mark II.
Although, all Canon would have to do is make an M6 Mark II with a screen that flips out to the side.
They would only have to make an announcement and that would steal much of the thunder from Sony.
Yeah but upgrade is required on those two.. specially RThey R and RP are still rolling off assembly lines as I type this.
Yeah but upgrade is required on those two.. specially R
I hope not but if Canon and Nikon abandon DSLRs then it will be.Maybe Pentax in your future?
That is true with current technology but who knows what the future will bring.It's not possible to keep an OVF with RF mount - no room for a mirror.
Exactly.... As I said. There is no EVF in the world equal to and OVF.... which is vital to sports.It's not possible to keep an OVF with RF mount - no room for a mirror.
I’m seeing more and more pro sports shooters using EVF’s, so it clearly isn’t “vital to sports”.Exactly.... As I said. There is no EVF in the world equal to and OVF.... which is vital to sports.
More and More? Not one! As in zero. Not at our "agency" or those we compete with. As for "Press"... we see kids and adults sent from locals that show up with cell phones, P&S and assorted low-budget kits and their work product reflects their exp and equipment. You get what you pay for on both sides of the lens.I’m seeing more and more pro sports shooters using EVF’s, so it clearly isn’t “vital to sports”.
And yet some situations clearly favor MILC’s, golf backswings and tennis are two I personally know where true silent shutters that MILC’s enable shots DSLR users cannot get.More and More? Not one! As in zero. Not at our "agency" or those we compete with. As for "Press"... we see kids and adults sent from locals that show up with cell phones, P&S and assorted low-budget kits and their work product reflects their exp and equipment. You get what you pay for on both sides of the lens.