Firmware: Canon releases v1.4.0 for the Canon EOS R5

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I"m not getting technical, but set at 8KD29.27 ProRes RAW video recording a Moog One and ARP 2600. Now 40min in uninterrupted. SSD 2TB says 1hour and 12 minutes left before card change ... WOW.

Fan on Ninja v+ just went up one notch. SSD card is hot, but to be expected.

Well Worth the Wait, just AWESOME!!!
 
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jam05

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Yes, once again Canon gave the middle finger to still photographers. Where are the zebras, slower fps in ES, greater button customization…
The R5 is a still camera shooters dream. Who wants slower fps in ES? Did you send in a request for it? How many other cameras have it? If it's on any Canon low end cameras then you have a legitimate beef. Send it in along with your proof on which model that option is. Obviously it's not a high demand request. I always go to tech support and send and official request along with model number my option is found. Example save settings to disk found on other Canon cameras. And I get at least 25 other photographers to do the same. Canon answered. That option was on the next update. And button cusomization is great for myself. Be specific rather than spout generalities.
 
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I let me Camera sit and cool for a while and started testing again and I am getting some different results.

Camera Settings:
  • 4K HQ 24fps
  • Internal Recording to CFexpress card only
  • Screen out from the body
  • Rf 15-35 set to full auto
  • Shutter Speed = 1/50
  • Aperture = F2.8
  • ISO = 800
  • Canon log enabled - Log 3
Test Results so far:
  • First 29:59 no overheat symbol - Formatted the card and start again
  • Second Run overheat symbol seen at 12mins then went away for 10 mins. Overheat on at 22mins and stayed on till I hit second 29.59
  • Camera still on and flashing overheat symbol. Camera reporting I have 1min left - Time of posting I am 7mins into recording 3 clip and overheat symbol still flashing.
The temp in my room has gone up 4 degrees since this morning to be sitting around 29c.

Edit total Record time = 1h 12mins as of 4:23PM PST - Still going
Edit #2 Total Record time = 1h 30mins - the overheat symbol flashed the entire 29:59
Internal or external battery?
 
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So. I am not sure what magic some people are using. But in a 74 degree F room. I could only get 41 minutes from the R5 in 4k 24 HQ. Internal recording and internal battery. Not really much different than previous firmware. How the heck are you people getting an hour or more? Are your rooms colder? Are you moving some air over the camera? Maybe its my CF card. Using the Angelbird 2TB. I could try my San Disk 512GB and see if that makes a difference. I would love to get 1 hour in ambient room temp
 
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So. I am not sure what magic some people are using. But in a 74 degree F room. I could only get 41 minutes from the R5 in 4k 24 HQ. Internal recording and internal battery. Not really much different than previous firmware. How the heck are you people getting an hour or more? Are your rooms colder? Are you moving some air over the camera? Maybe its my CF card. Using the Angelbird 2TB. I could try my San Disk 512GB and see if that makes a difference. I would love to get 1 hour in ambient room temp

Do you have the LCD screen flipped out or mounted against the camera?
 
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So. I am not sure what magic some people are using. But in a 74 degree F room. I could only get 41 minutes from the R5 in 4k 24 HQ. Internal recording and internal battery. Not really much different than previous firmware. How the heck are you people getting an hour or more? Are your rooms colder? Are you moving some air over the camera? Maybe its my CF card. Using the Angelbird 2TB. I could try my San Disk 512GB and see if that makes a difference. I would love to get 1 hour in ambient room temp
Did the Camera shut off or just flash the thermal warning?
 
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liv_img

EOS R5, 5D Mark IV
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I let me Camera sit and cool for a while and started testing again and I am getting some different results.

Camera Settings:
  • 4K HQ 24fps
  • Internal Recording to CFexpress card only
  • Screen out from the body
  • Rf 15-35 set to full auto
  • Shutter Speed = 1/50
  • Aperture = F2.8
  • ISO = 800
  • Canon log enabled - Log 3
Test Results so far:
  • First 29:59 no overheat symbol - Formatted the card and start again
  • Second Run overheat symbol seen at 12mins then went away for 10 mins. Overheat on at 22mins and stayed on till I hit second 29.59
  • Camera still on and flashing overheat symbol. Camera reporting I have 1min left - Time of posting I am 7mins into recording 3 clip and overheat symbol still flashing.
The temp in my room has gone up 4 degrees since this morning to be sitting around 29c.

Edit total Record time = 1h 12mins as of 4:23PM PST - Still going
Edit #2 Total Record time = 1h 30mins - the overheat symbol flashed the entire 29:59
Wich brand of CF express? SanDisk? It seems the brand card has a strong effect on the overheating.
 
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Is the HDMI port 2.1 or 2.0? The difference would be 8k/10 bit/30 raw and raw light via HDMI
Any ideas on the max record length for 8k?
I realized that its likely not the cable - I just saw that the atomos update for the Ninja V does not include the R5 RAW update. Thats only incldued in the current Atomos Ninja V+ firmwareupdate. I hope that its going to come soon to the Ninja V.

My (completely uneducated) guess is, that external record times for raw will be much better than internal. Just how extern 4kHQ works for hours, while it only lasts 25 minutes internal.
 
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So. I am not sure what magic some people are using. But in a 74 degree F room. I could only get 41 minutes from the R5 in 4k 24 HQ. Internal recording and internal battery. Not really much different than previous firmware. How the heck are you people getting an hour or more? Are your rooms colder? Are you moving some air over the camera? Maybe its my CF card. Using the Angelbird 2TB. I could try my San Disk 512GB and see if that makes a difference. I would love to get 1 hour in ambient room temp
I'm having the same results as before the firmware. I've also noticed that the overheat control was removed from the menu.
 
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Aww, that’s a disappointment. I knew Atomos were being quiet about the bit-rate for 8K Prores RAW on the R5. 10-bit? Urgh. Despite plastering 12-bit all over the web but not DIRECTLY in regards to the R5. Really not sure what the point of 10bit 422 ‘RAW’ is. That 2.0 HDMI port and SATA combo is about five years behind the rest of the tech Canon and Atomos are installing. Why neither decided to use HDMI 2.1 on units designed to record 8K is beyond me.
I think its canons fault, not Atomos.
You get 12 bit 5k RAW though, if you use the crop mode on the canon. (according to the atomos homepage)
 
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There is a very long list of features and fixes for stills put together here:

Please feel free to add requests to that thread. Here is a consolidated list of what has been requested so far:

AUTOFOCUS/MANUAL FOCUS REQUESTS

  • Ability to make 1-point AF and Spot AF focus points smaller/more precise (i.e. pinpoint focus).
  • Ability to link metering mode to AF point spot.
  • Ability to decide if users in AI Servo want the shutter half press to return the camera to normal view (currently the only setting) or if they want to re-initiate the auto-focus to confirm more precise focus when magnified.
  • Ability to use the MF peaking and focus guide features while looking at the magnified view.
  • Ability to use MF while in servo mode. Would automatically temporarily switch the camera to one shot while using MF, so menus don't have to be used if in servo mode and the camera needs some help focusing more precisely.
  • Ability to hold the last focus used on a "focus by wire" lens and to retain the Bulb timer setting even when the camera goes to "sleep" between images
  • Improvements to Animal Eye AF speed and accuracy ("deep learning")
  • Ability to recognize more eye AF subjects like bugs/insects and ungulates.


MENU CUSTOMIZATION REQUESTS

  • Ability to select and customize which items appear in the Q Menu.
  • Ability to see exact battery percentage (not just bars) on the EVF/LCD without going in the menus.
  • Ability to choose the burst FPS numerically, such as 5FPS, 10FPS, 15FPS, 20FPS, etc.
  • Ability to shoot at fewer than 20 FPS in silent shutter.
  • Ability to set up more than 3 Custom modes.
  • Ability to choose a name for each custom mode and/or add a description.
  • Ability to perform “Batch Function” in the menu to change several options together (For example, Servo AF, Face Tracking, Animal all in 1)
  • Ability to save/backup/restore camera settings to/from memory card
  • Ability to choose max ISO Increments for the Auto ISO range in 1/3 stop increments instead of just full stop increments.
  • Ability to choose between prioritizing clearing the buffer ie I/O speed or improved thermal management by slowing down the I/O speed.
  • Ability to disable at the PHY layer either the CFE or the UHS II card without ejecting.
  • Ability to hide Menu pages or items not used.
  • Ability to edit the My Menu pages in a Canon external app (Windows, Mac, Smartphone) to make the process of moving items from page to page less cumbersome.


BUTTON CUSTOMIZATION REQUESTS

  • Ability to assign any function to any button.
  • Ability to program the rate button to other options.
  • Ability to customize the Register/Recall shooting functions list with more options, such as AI Servo.
  • Ability to switch to standby Video Mode settings with a single dedicated button
  • Ability to combine more than 1 function to a button to change several options at once (For example, Servo AF, Face Tracking, Animal all in 1)


NEW FEATURE REQUESTS

  • Pixel shift functionality for ultra-high MP stills images. Multi-shot high res mode.
  • Pre-shot buffer, like Olympus Pro Capture
  • Software ND Filter
  • Landscape panoramic mode that assists with taking photos lined up for in-camera or in-software image stitching.
  • Astrophotography features, like star tracking
  • Total blackout of both EVF and screen for timelapse shooters and night shooters. The camera doesn't always need one or the other brightly glowing and wasting power for long exposures or during interval shots. Also, the red light should be included- option to shut it OFF in blackout mode.
  • Add a timer delay function, which can be assigned to most buttons. Pressing that button takes you to the timer delay screen where you can set a delay of 0 (none), 2, 10 seconds or a user specified value. Another line there lets you choose if the timer delay value is cleared (or kept) after each use.
  • Add a video setting for "video movement trigger". If you enable this then you can take a long video on a tripod of a mostly non-moving area, and the video will record if there is any motion (by a moving animal typically) and won't record if there is no motion. A menu line can let the user specify the number of seconds before & after each motion segment where it will also record video.
  • Identify the primary source of overheating so user can adjust shooting style if needed.
  • Provide a warning when camera is getting close to overheating so user can adjust shooting style if needed.
  • Allow hot and stuck pixels to be mapped out of EVF and screen views, not just final images
  • Add an option for DSLR-like display behavior: normally, display and EVF are off until the eye sensor triggers the EVF on. If the eye sensor is not triggered, the display only comes on for requested image review or automatic review if enabled or for menu operation. "live view" shooting on the display can be activated with a configurable button.
  • Ability to configure magnification power during photographing (actually it's x6 and x15). I'm working with telescope (1800mm/3600mm of focal length) and x6 is far to big. I really need x2 or x3 during focusing. For now I'm switching to crop mode which gives me x1.6 on display, but this is not the solution, because I'm loosing a lot of field of view ( witch is very tiny with such a telescope).
  • Ability to lock the magnification during photographing - right now it's resetting to x1 after each picture taken.
  • Ability via a menu option to select IS, IBIS, IS+IBIS when using both RF and EF lenses with IS.
  • Ability to see the COLOUR BALANCE DETAILS in the IMAGE REVIEW INFO display

FLASH REQUESTS

  • Ability to set a higher flash synch speed.
  • Focus stack with flash.


BRACKETING REQUESTS

  • Ability to set the first initial position for focus bracketing in the middle of bracketed shots instead of starting the bracket at the focused position and increasing focus distance only.
  • Ability to focus on the far distance of a bracket and press a button and then focus on the near distance of a bracket and press the shutter button, then the camera could work out the rest to get the perfect bracket between them.
  • Ability to customize aperture bracketing relative to the current aperture chosen with menu choices: Aperture bracket: on/off, #stops per step: 1:9, #steps wider: 0:9, #steps narrower: 0:9
  • Ability to start a focus bracket with a single shutter release. A single shutter release will start a focus bracket. The user has a menu line slider to specify where the initial focus position is relative to the front and back of the focus range. If set to "front" then it behaves the way the focus bracket currently works. Set in the middle (for example) between the front & back and the camera will make sure that that the initial focal length is in the middle of the focus bracket, etc. The user still sets the number of steps and the distance of each step as it currently exists.
  • Ability to start a focus bracket with two shutter releases: The first shutter release will use the focus distance to set the back focal distance, and the second shutter release uses the focus distance (which was moved closer) to set the front focal distance and start the focus bracket. The user sets the number of steps to use, or the step size to use (but not both, as the camera figures out the other one).
  • Ability to save a Custom Mode with focus bracketing.


VIDEO

  • In the R5, ability to enable 1080p 120 fps mode. If you can manage even faster modes, add them too. But 120 fps ought to be doable on the SD card given some of the 4K modes that can go onto that card. (This may or may not apply to the R6 as well, I just haven't paid much attention to it so I don't know.)
  • Move the video crop mode into the same submenu where you can set time lapse and slow mo, rather than one level above them.
  • Ability to save .cr3 raw files from any frame of a 8K Raw video Digital Photo Processor post software.
These are certainly good ideas. Some of them would not even take up any space in the menu. But most of them would.
In my opinion implementing all of these features would result in a VERY big menu thats not easy to handle. Also, to be fair, I dont expect giant changes in firmware. Good list anyway =)
 
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