Is the Canon EOS R7 the next camera to be announced? [CR2]

Fingers crossed that this will be a pro-grade sports/wildlife orientated camera, although the hints that it is a cross between an M50 and a 7DMkii could indicate otherwise.

If it's pro-grade, with bird-eye AF, fast burst speeds, an R6-based bodyshell, and a decent sensor with 28MP or more, it would make a great companion to my R5.
If it did all this and took the R5/6 battery grip. I probably couldn't preorder it fast enough lol
 
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entoman

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If it did all this and took the R5/6 battery grip. I probably couldn't preorder it fast enough lol
Same here. I normally wait a few months after a model is released (until the price drops and the initial bugs are sorted), but it's what I hope it is, I'll order straight away.
 
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The 7D II launched at $1799 (body only), so it's safe to say that a R7 isn't an M replacement.
Hard to say. The person who started the rumour apparently said it was like a cross between an M50 and a 7DMkii. If true, that would seem to indicate a slightly larger than M-sized camera with RF mount. We have no real idea of the specification yet, let alone the price, so the launch cost of the 7DMkii isn't relevant. The new camera could be a budget model, or it could be a semi-pro model, we just don't know.
 
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That might be true if the owner also owns a FF body. Otherwise, the R7 also would need a wide zoom, perhaps a 10-20 f/4 and a fast and small 30mm prime.
Given the RF 16/2.8, 35/1.8 and 50/1.8, I don't really see any need for anything but a standard zoom (17-55 or so) and a wide-angle zoom (10-20 or so), and the latter they might do without for a while (the extant EF-S 10-18 or 10-22 with an adapter will do well enough). Although I kind of expect an RF 28mm f/1.8 or so anyway,
 
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Only in field of view.
Yes. The 100-500mm would become an effective 160-800mm F7.2-11.36.

The RF 600mm F11 would become an effective 960mm F17.6.

.... and the RF 800mm F11 would become an effective 1280mm F17.6.
.... and the RF 800mm F11 with a 1.4x extender attached would become an effective 1792mm F24.64, if my math is correct.

It's always worth doing the math when considering various lens options!
 
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Yes. The 100-500mm would become an effective 160-800mm F7.2-11.36.
If you are at the same distance from your subject, the RF 100-150mm f/4.5-f/7.1 lens is still effectively a 100-150mm f/4-5-f/7.1 on a crop as it is on a FF, and that is the usual situation when we are out photographing birds etc. It's only effectively a 160-800mm F7.2-11.36 on the crop if you are standing 1.6x further away with the crop than with the FF.
 
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If you are at the same distance from your subject, the RF 100-150mm f/4.5-f/7.1 lens is still effectively a 100-150mm f/4-5-f/7.1 on a crop as it is on a FF, and that is the usual situation when we are out photographing birds etc. It's only effectively a 160-800mm F7.2-11.36 on the crop if you are standing 1.6x further away with the crop than with the FF.
But assuming a higher pixel density on the crop sensor, it would put more pixels on duck.
 
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If you are at the same distance from your subject, the RF 100-150mm f/4.5-f/7.1 lens is still effectively a 100-150mm f/4-5-f/7.1 on a crop as it is on a FF, and that is the usual situation when we are out photographing birds etc. It's only effectively a 160-800mm F7.2-11.36 on the crop if you are standing 1.6x further away with the crop than with the FF.
That'll teach me not to listen to dpreview articles about "equivalence" anymore then... ;)
 
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But assuming a higher pixel density on the crop sensor, it would put more pixels on duck.
That's a different matter altogether, but crucial. The FF 5DSR has the same pixel density as the crop 7DII, and so they both put the same number of pixels on a duck with the same focal length lens. It's the same with the D850 and the D500 - they both have the same pixel density. Resolution is given primarily by the combination of focal length of the lens and the pixel density of the sensor, and that is precisely why it is wrong to consider crop factor by itself as a measure of resolution.
 
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But assuming a higher pixel density on the crop sensor, it would put more pixels on duck.
Yep, that to me would be the main advantage of getting an "R7".

The 45MP sensor of the R5, cropped down to APS-C size, becomes a measly 17MP.
I'd assume, possibly wrongly, that the "R7" would have at least 24MP and quite possibly 33MP.
 
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I figured that the first APS-S camera in the R line would be the R7. It leaves Canon with all options left on the table. They release a crop (semi-) pro body and need no lenses for it. If it sells well enough, they can release two further crop body and design two specific lenses (1x kit lenses/ 1x UWA) and have a great entry level-enthusiast-(semi-) pro line up.

If it doesn't sell well, then they just say: Well, we did what customers wanted to do. It didn't work out. Buy M-cameras for APS-C of RF for Full-frame.

So basically, Canon can test the market for crop-body camera without making a commitment or statement about the M-line just yet.
 
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