5D Mark V wish list

[awair]

I regularly use 2 bodies at an event (currently 1D series & 5D series). What I want/need most of all is:

1. Feature parity for all software/menu items (e.g. Spot metering off centre AF point)
2. Two card slots that are the same (SD/SD, CF/CF or CFast/CFast)
3. Card slots that are common between 1D/5D

I don't expect the cameras to have feature-parity (megapixels & frame-rate being the most obvious), in fact it's better that they don't. Use the 1DX for fast sports action - better with less megapixels to manage afterwards. Use the 5D4 where a crop in post is likely, the ISO needs to be higher or a high frame rate is not as important.

I've stopped using the 1DX & 1DC together, because they are 'too similar', yet don't share all the same options (1DX has firmware 2.x with several useful additions; 1DC has been limited to firmware 1.x). This creates a cognitive dissonance (senile confusion), which doesn't happen when I use the 5D as the 2nd (or 1st camera).

Canon should recognise that Pros don't just use the 1-series (the MacBook works the same as an iMac or Mac Pro, only it has the tilt-flippy...), so please provide software feature-parity.

I don't envisage ever going back to using 2 1-series bodies for an event, I feel that I'm better supported with more specialist tools that give a greater of options.

I'm really happy with the 5D4, probably won't get the Mark V, but if the only new feature was dual CF, it would be very tempting from a card management perspective. Although I actually get better transfers with the SD card.

I'm not techie enough to know if CFast is 'the future' or just another Betamax? How about dual SD for the Mark V, and the 1DX Mark III?

 

[applecider]

The IV got the focus system from the 1DX ii, including the better cross points and f8 compatibility. The better AF system was my reason to upgrade from iii to IV.

If history repeats the 1DXiii will debut a newer AF System and the V will get it, maybe 6 months later.

Resolution wise I find that the files from the IV look acceptable to me when cropped to 160% or so enlargement for the most part. More MP might push that up toward 200%, sadly I’ve not had the chance to try 5DSR files to get a feel for their enlargement potential for my satisfaction.

 

[Antono Refa]

especially if we are going that route where high data rates are common.

Some people seem to not realize 4K & high fps are niche features.

3000USD+ camera bodies serve a niche market.

4K is probably used 100,000-times more frequently than 35mm sensors.

Hell, my new mid-range Android phone records 4K60fps video

Precisely. As do all recent Apple phones, myriad GoPro and GoPro clones, etc, hence the off the cuff 100,000:1 guess.

If 4K is a niche feature, full frame camera bodies are infinitesimal.

This whole thread is a wishlist for a niche product.

There's a difference between cameras having a feature, and the feature actually being used.

I have a Galaxy Samsung S8 that can shoot 4K video. I never use it, I don't have a 4K display, and don't plan to buy one.

 

[3kramd5]

especially if we are going that route where high data rates are common.

Some people seem to not realize 4K & high fps are niche features.

3000USD+ camera bodies serve a niche market.

4K is probably used 100,000-times more frequently than 35mm sensors.

Hell, my new mid-range Android phone records 4K60fps video

Precisely. As do all recent Apple phones, myriad GoPro and GoPro clones, etc, hence the off the cuff 100,000:1 guess.

If 4K is a niche feature, full frame camera bodies are infinitesimal.

This whole thread is a wishlist for a niche product.

There's a difference between cameras having a feature, and the feature actually being used.

I have a Galaxy Samsung S8 that can shoot 4K video. I never use it, I don't have a 4K display, and don't plan to buy one.

Of course there is. If I were merely considering owning the device, the pulled-from-my-arse ratio would be even more skewed. As it is, even considering use, I expect it’s undercutting 4K usage in the action camera area and dashcam area alone.

Now, people seeking out high quality 4K machines with proper codecs and formats for significant use, sure that’s a rarity.

 

[Antono Refa]

especially if we are going that route where high data rates are common.

Some people seem to not realize 4K & high fps are niche features.

3000USD+ camera bodies serve a niche market.

4K is probably used 100,000-times more frequently than 35mm sensors.

Hell, my new mid-range Android phone records 4K60fps video

Precisely. As do all recent Apple phones, myriad GoPro and GoPro clones, etc, hence the off the cuff 100,000:1 guess.

If 4K is a niche feature, full frame camera bodies are infinitesimal.

This whole thread is a wishlist for a niche product.

There's a difference between cameras having a feature, and the feature actually being used.

I have a Galaxy Samsung S8 that can shoot 4K video. I never use it, I don't have a 4K display, and don't plan to buy one.

Of course there is. If I were merely considering owning the device, the pulled-from-my-arse ratio would be even more skewed. As it is, even considering use, I expect it’s undercutting 4K usage in the action camera area and dashcam area alone.

People care about 4K dashcam like I care about S8 having 4K. They buy whatever's on the shelve.

Now, people seeking out high quality 4K machines with proper codecs and formats for significant use, sure that’s a rarity.

If they weren't that rare, Canon wouldn't have left their money on the table.

 

[slclick]

Built in Magpul QD

 

[tmc784]

IBIS

 

[ahsanford]

If history repeats the 1DXiii will debut a newer AF System and the V will get it, maybe 6 months later.

+1. Canon's put the same high-level AF setup from the 1DX-line into the 5D# line on the last two generations. It's a logical bet that they'll do that again with the 5D5.

- A

 

[AdjustedInCamera]

• Tilty-flip screen

+1

+1

 

[docsmith]

to me 5d4 was one of those looks boring on paper but you really feel the difference when you use it type upgrade compared to the 5d3

^^^ This

Owned the 5DIII, didn't upgrade to the 5DIV until a refurbished deal hit the market. Great/amazing camera. 20% improvement in a number of features really adds up.

But, if I were to think of what else I would want, it really is not much, I am very happy with the 5DIV, but:

• 9-10 fps
• illuminated AF points in viewfinder (currently they flash)
• Wider AF spread
• longer battery life (granted, I've hit 1,200-1,500 shots per battery, but if I shoot much (2K) video, I am often 500-800)
• More powerful battery to drive AF (its time to move on from the LP-E6N)
• Bigger buffer, faster writespeed to cards, especially SD (if the V still has SD)
• I do not use 4K video, but if I ever wanted, I would want smaller file sizes, so better options there

I essentially want the 5DV to be a bit sportier. So the 5D sport version.

I would not want more MP. That would be a negative for me. To me, the 5D line should be split between the high resolution 5DS and the sportier 5DV.

But the 5DIV is more than enough camera for me right now. I am not worried about what comes next. What I have now is great.

 

[Ozarker]

Built in Magpul QD

Yup!!!

 

[Ian_of_glos]

to me 5d4 was one of those looks boring on paper but you really feel the difference when you use it type upgrade compared to the 5d3

^^^ This

Owned the 5DIII, didn't upgrade to the 5DIV until a refurbished deal hit the market. Great/amazing camera. 20% improvement in a number of features really adds up.

But, if I were to think of what else I would want, it really is not much, I am very happy with the 5DIV, but:

• 9-10 fps
• illuminated AF points in viewfinder (currently they flash)
• Wider AF spread
• longer battery life (granted, I've hit 1,200-1,500 shots per battery, but if I shoot much (2K) video, I am often 500-800)
• More powerful battery to drive AF (its time to move on from the LP-E6N)
• Bigger buffer, faster writespeed to cards, especially SD (if the V still has SD)
• I do not use 4K video, but if I ever wanted, I would want smaller file sizes, so better options there

I essentially want the 5DV to be a bit sportier. So the 5D sport version.

I would not want more MP. That would be a negative for me. To me, the 5D line should be split between the high resolution 5DS and the sportier 5DV.

But the 5DIV is more than enough camera for me right now. I am not worried about what comes next. What I have now is great.

I completely endorse your comments and my wish list would be very similar to yours.
When the 5D mk4 was announced I felt that 7fps was something of a disappointment and I would have gladly gone down from 30 megapixels to 27 or 28 megapixels if it meant that the camera could shoot at 8 or 9fps.
Overall it is an excellent camera though and it is only very occasionally that I have missed the critical moment.

 

[jolyonralph]

• Tilty-flip screen

+1

+1

You want THREE tilty flippy screens?

 

[pwp]

oh, one more thing...Canon, please redesign the loathsome battery tray that currently blights the 5D4 grip. The previous design functioned perfectly. It's unfathomable that this got past the design assessments during development. Thank you...

-pw

 

[Maximilian]

• Tilty-flip screen

+1

+1

You want THREE tilty flippy screens?

For sure!
You know that a lot of people fear the mechanics to break. So you have two in spare

 

[Grimbald]

Tilty-flip screen

Slight bump in resolution, maybe 35 MP (so 8k Time-lapses would be possible, but a clear differentiation between the 5DSR and the 5D are fine with me).

Better low-light capacities!!

More DR!!

8-10 FPS

Better 4k Codec

8k Time-lapse build in

Build in Image stabilization. Given that this is already a feature in the 6d II for video, it is not completely unrealistic.

 

[Freddell]

I wish the next canon camera will support the new SD express form factor with 950MB/s throughput.
No need for the chunky large cards in the old camera.

 

[Diko]

• Slight boost in resolution e.g. 36 MP,
• No AA filter
• Articulating Touchscreen (so far I think I saw none asking for it. Which is not good, since actually I very rarely use VF anymore ergo been more extreme with the angles I shoot)
• DR, ISO - for me these are mandatory upgrade for a 4-year or longer cycle I don't care Canon what tech would use to achieve that as long as it is a real deal and not only on paper.
• NFC, Bluetooth!!!, WiFi ac are welcomed as well with nowadays technologies.

 

[Ozarker]

• Slight boost in resolution e.g. 36 MP,
• No AA filter
• Articulating Touchscreen (so far I think I saw none asking for it. Which is not good, since actually I very rarely use VF anymore ergo been more extreme with the angles I shoot)
• DR, ISO - for me these are mandatory upgrade for a 4-year or longer cycle I don't care Canon what tech would use to achieve that as long as it is a real deal and not only on paper.
• NFC, Bluetooth!!!, WiFi ac are welcomed as well with nowadays technologies.

Yes, an articulated touch screen would be great. That's the only feature from my 70D that I have missed.

 

[peters]

In the hope that anyone at canon reads this:

- FULL sensor readout in 4k
- fix of the insane rolling shutter problem in 4k
- more efficient codec in 4k

- maybe a bit more fps in photomode.
- swivel screen, but this won't ever happen