Announcing a lens hood... Interesting...
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A very important question. And to me, not at all. I like more blur, not better blur with less blur. And, I don’t know a lot about this, never had the interest, but how can it be a 1.2, when it’s not?Only one photo taken with the DS-Lens. Does the background realy look better with DS?
... And, I don’t know a lot about this, never had the interest, but how can it be a 1.2, when it’s not?
Not when we get mist or, especially, grit, on the zoom barrel. No thanks!The RF 70-200 can't come fast enough. At work we use shoulder bags, and the EF 70-200 just barely fits in upright. The RF will be the perfect size and it'll be so convenient to have a 24-70 sized 70-200.
Yes. I f you go to there website, Rudy does a demonstration. It is actually 1.5 stops light transmission difference. I personally did not find the difference between the two to make a difference to me. In other words, I am happy with what I have. I won't be missing anything.
https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/...RF-85mm-F12-L-USM-vs-the-RF-86mm-F12-L-USM-DS
You are right. The background is more subdued. One could say smoother. I'm wondering what the price difference will be? The real question for me is how it renders the backgrounds where no bokeh balls are present. The lens will probably be one of those rarities people will be seeking in 50 years.To me the example photo has a much nicer background, out of focus highlites are rounder softer, and colors are muted rather than cat eye, the face has more depth of field. This caused one objectionable highlite on the model's left side, the others look better. The face looks more evenly illuminated, likely due to the greater depth of field. When you compare the two images there are a ton of tiny things that render differently, but the main effect is that the model seems to pop out with more separation from the background, and the background is smoother and muted.
If I were doing 95% portraits, I'd get the DS based on that photo, but we need to see more first.
You are right. The background is more subdued. One could say smoother. I'm wondering what the price difference will be? The real question for me is how it renders the backgrounds where no bokeh balls are present. The lens will probably be one of those rarities people will be seeking in 50 years.
Announcing a lens hood... Interesting...
That lenses are excellent, like all the others RF lenses. But... When will release Canon a Eos R "Pro" with IBIS stabilization, 2 SD slots and 4K without crop????!!!!!????!!!!! That´s what every profesional photographer that I know are waiting for. And, by the way... what about a RF 35 mm 1.4 lens????????? 35mm is "The" lens. Come on Canon!!
Not when we get mist or, especially, grit, on the zoom barrel. No thanks!
Think of an aperture which is not a straight circle but made from a radially symmetric graduated gray filter - clear in the center, -2 stops on the outside. Light passing through the outer "large aperture region" is muted by the filter and hence it has a smaller effect on the final image. The center portion going through the clear part of the filter has more effect.
The combined effect is a little bit more DOF but the focus transition zones are smoother.
An example of such a filter with 25mm diameter @ 600 USD - so the DS lens is maybe cheaper than buying a similar filter of the right diameter for the non-DS lens while having it on the wrong place
25mm OD1.0 Radially Variable ND Filter - 0@Center-Neutral Density Filters-Optical Filters-Singapore Optics Shop
25mm OD1.0 Radially Variable ND Filter - 0@Center,Neutral Density Filters,Optical Filters,Singapore Optics Shopwww.optics.sg
And, by the way... what about a RF 35 mm 1.4 lens????????? 35mm is "The" lens. Come on Canon!!
I'm sorry, you're mistaken. 50mm is "the" lens, and they've already released a good one of those.what about a RF 35 mm 1.4 lens????????? 35mm is "The" lens. Come on Canon!!
That lenses are excellent, like all the others RF lenses. But... When will release Canon a Eos R "Pro" with IBIS stabilization, 2 SD slots and 4K without crop????!!!!!????!!!!! That´s what every profesional photographer that I know are waiting for. And, by the way... what about a RF 35 mm 1.4 lens????????? 35mm is "The" lens. Come on Canon!!
Thanks for the explanation, I can imagine it. This filter may in some way function like an aperture. But is not the DS element a radially symmetric graduated gray filter which is not clear in the center, but rather dark in the center? And would a radially Variable ND Filter with a clear center not work like an aperture, producing an image similar to one stopped down, which means with a less pronounced bokeh?
You can't know many professionals then, I doubt very much they're *all* bothered about this. And it's a bit tiresome that every time anything else is announced, people pop up saying the same thing. Patience - Rome wasn't built in a day! The RF system is only just over a year old!
You can't know many professionals then, I doubt very much they're *all* bothered about this. And it's a bit tiresome that every time anything else is announced, people pop up saying the same thing. Patience - Rome wasn't built in a day! The RF system is only just over a year old!
I know at least 200 wedding photographers and recently I was in a meeting with almost 50. No one want to spend money in a camera with just 1 slot. It´s ridiculous. What bothers me and I don't understand is why Canon do that. It´s not something that they can´t do. Rome was not built in a day but I am sure that the Colosseum began by having good foundations. Basic should be first. And double slot is something basic for professionals who are being paid to get something that cannot be repeated.You can't know many professionals then, I doubt very much they're *all* bothered about this. And it's a bit tiresome that every time anything else is announced, people pop up saying the same thing. Patience - Rome wasn't built in a day! The RF system is only just over a year old!
Right, Scyrene. I've been reading about the crisis of a single card slot for months now, and hearing about it in youtube vids. I do prefer that second slot, JUST IN CASE. But worrying about losing one card worth of shots out of thousands of cards full of shots means giving up ALL shots that COULD be taken with RF primes. Talk about a no-brainer choice!
Yes, I understand that there are portions of weddings that must be captured and preserved to get paid and reduce lawsuits and ill will. Yes. But there are other parts of weddings that the best RF prime lenses can capture better than anything else available right now, parts that will not void contracts, etc. As said, details. Spontaneous portraits of groom, bride, and their key friends and family. Sure, it would be heartbreaking to lose, in that one out of a 1000 weddings, some of those beautiful extra shots, but not devastating. In fact, in the heat of the event, few members of the weddings would even remember being photographed in moments that were not directly related to the key narrative.
And for really careful photographers who do want to use these incredible primes right now, use 16GB SD cards and change 'em out more often. Or maybe 32GB is a better balance.
Point is, serious, results oriented photographers are going to grumble about the current limit of a single card slot, but I do know top notch wedding photographers who aren't giving up the creative and quality advantages of the RF primes just because of an extremely rare card failure issue. Phew, all the things to worry about? Physical damage to cameras, or theft, or, heaven forbid, accidents on the way to a venue or on the way home...Please. I think we are hearing the gnashing teeth of keyboard bound photographers who obsess over specs and features rather than get out and take photos.
And we might be hearing from those poor souls who believe that waiting until Canon produces a two-slot camera--holding out, withholding funds--is a way of speaking truth to power, of scolding those corporate scrooges. Fine. More power to you, honey. Leave the rf primes to those of us who say, "Damn the torpedoes!"
Just my opinions!