thanks for any advice in advance, here's a little bit of something I've been going through, btw I'm very new to trying to film on a pro-sudeo level so please excuse any of my cringe worthy comments or questions
I'm more of music guy but am working with someone who's also a music person but also willing to help on the video front. I was in the market for a Canon but after watching a bunch of videos with the iPhone xs max compared to countless prosumer cameras I was sold that it could match up with the real deal. So I upgraded from 7plus to iPhone xs max and filmic pro app, also bought final cut pro. So it came time to start shooting some music video footage at 4k 24fps 100 bits, shot in natural and flat and took time to really get some great footage, and although I thought the videos came out very good, they just weren't as creamy and smooth (when moving slightly and all around actually) as some of the other footage on different days they got with a couple of Canons, those didn't have 4k but were at 1080 hd 24fps (Quick note: now that I think about all those youtube shootout videos with the xs max vs enter really great camera here, they never were actually moving very much, but always still or slow-mo, and I'm not talking about moving fast or sloppy but just slightly, just seems the iPhone with filmic pro doesn't have the juice that solely prosumer cameras have, I could be wrong) So this person decided to only use the canon 1080 hd 24 fps footage and in editing right now its looking phenomenal! I'm not sure which canons they had but I know neither had 4k, I started to think maybe 4k was a problem at least on my end with filmic pro and iPhone but we tested 1080 hd 24 and it looked worse than the 4k, plus I stumbled across this beautiful 4k music video shot on a mark 4 posted by canon Europe so clearly that was idiotic off me to even think that 4k could have been the problem
here's the Canon Europe video shot with 5D mark 4 has me sold
I've come to the conclusion am not going to get footage like this off my iPhone Xs max no matter what 3rd party app and however much editing or however much skill, I don't doubt you can get some really great footage thats doable as I've got some myself but it just doesn't look professional or have weight like this but feels more thin/grainy/sharply digital and so on but still good
I've been holding off on buying the 5d mark 4 as it's going on 3 years and hopefully they'll be coming with a newer version before the olympics, but also I do not like the crop on 4k at all, I believe all of the current canons have that crop at 4K?
I watched the leaked 90D video and wasn't able to tell if there is crop on the 4k, do you guys think that 90D will be able to shoot the same quality as that video I posted? is not having 24fps but only 30 and 25 a bad thing?
so after all that I'm trying to find out in the price range of about 4grand(has two be new, and also tryna get a 50mm and 24-105 lens hopefully) but willing to spend a little more what kind of canon could produce the quality thats in that video I posted other than the mark 4. You think the EOS R? 90D when it comers out? or should I wait a little while longer? the whole goal is to get footage like in that video and I am aware that theres a lot of post production and a lot of skill when actually filming but I want to make sure that the camera I buy Is capable of getting such footage in the first place, sorry if my thread is a mess and really makes no sense to you guys, let men know if I can further explain anything and thanks again for your time and help!
I'm more of music guy but am working with someone who's also a music person but also willing to help on the video front. I was in the market for a Canon but after watching a bunch of videos with the iPhone xs max compared to countless prosumer cameras I was sold that it could match up with the real deal. So I upgraded from 7plus to iPhone xs max and filmic pro app, also bought final cut pro. So it came time to start shooting some music video footage at 4k 24fps 100 bits, shot in natural and flat and took time to really get some great footage, and although I thought the videos came out very good, they just weren't as creamy and smooth (when moving slightly and all around actually) as some of the other footage on different days they got with a couple of Canons, those didn't have 4k but were at 1080 hd 24fps (Quick note: now that I think about all those youtube shootout videos with the xs max vs enter really great camera here, they never were actually moving very much, but always still or slow-mo, and I'm not talking about moving fast or sloppy but just slightly, just seems the iPhone with filmic pro doesn't have the juice that solely prosumer cameras have, I could be wrong) So this person decided to only use the canon 1080 hd 24 fps footage and in editing right now its looking phenomenal! I'm not sure which canons they had but I know neither had 4k, I started to think maybe 4k was a problem at least on my end with filmic pro and iPhone but we tested 1080 hd 24 and it looked worse than the 4k, plus I stumbled across this beautiful 4k music video shot on a mark 4 posted by canon Europe so clearly that was idiotic off me to even think that 4k could have been the problem
here's the Canon Europe video shot with 5D mark 4 has me sold
I've come to the conclusion am not going to get footage like this off my iPhone Xs max no matter what 3rd party app and however much editing or however much skill, I don't doubt you can get some really great footage thats doable as I've got some myself but it just doesn't look professional or have weight like this but feels more thin/grainy/sharply digital and so on but still good
I've been holding off on buying the 5d mark 4 as it's going on 3 years and hopefully they'll be coming with a newer version before the olympics, but also I do not like the crop on 4k at all, I believe all of the current canons have that crop at 4K?
I watched the leaked 90D video and wasn't able to tell if there is crop on the 4k, do you guys think that 90D will be able to shoot the same quality as that video I posted? is not having 24fps but only 30 and 25 a bad thing?
so after all that I'm trying to find out in the price range of about 4grand(has two be new, and also tryna get a 50mm and 24-105 lens hopefully) but willing to spend a little more what kind of canon could produce the quality thats in that video I posted other than the mark 4. You think the EOS R? 90D when it comers out? or should I wait a little while longer? the whole goal is to get footage like in that video and I am aware that theres a lot of post production and a lot of skill when actually filming but I want to make sure that the camera I buy Is capable of getting such footage in the first place, sorry if my thread is a mess and really makes no sense to you guys, let men know if I can further explain anything and thanks again for your time and help!
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