Hi folks,
I'm looking for feedback from anybody WHO HAS ACTUALLY OWNED AND USED SPECIFICALLY. the Samyang 12mm f2.0 mirrorless or 16mm f2.0 APS-C lenses.
I know theres a lot of samyang bashing generally because some folk can only use af, I'm not talking to those people.
I'm talking to the other people who have got over that. I already use their 85 and 35's. I'm happy with iq, happy with manual iris, happy with stop down metering, happy with mf..
I want to hear from folk who are on that page, but have specific feedback good or bad about the 12mm f2 or 16mm f2.
On a more general subject (the slack-jawed belly rumblers may chip in here with something they read or even came up with themselves - it's a more conceptual question, so ill informed hypothesis is as welcome as any other...) do you think it is a waste of time buying ef-m lenses for the long ball game?
Here's my dilemma..
I shoot mainly video.
I am very happy to shoot on aps-c and have no issue buying dc dx ef-s etc lenses from canon or anybody else, as I'm not going full frame.
I have a 7d / 60d combo and 2x Ms.
I want a third manual lens, wide angle this time, for video work, especially timelapse, where the manual iris is a gift.
I do a lot of timelapse.
If I get the ef-m mount 12 then I can only ever use it on an m. Fine just now. But what about in 2 years when I'm being asked for 4k video?
If I get the 16 then I can use it on the m or on a 7d x0d class or rebel or cx00 class... but it's maybe just not as wide as I would wish after the 1.6x crop..
I already have the tokina 11-16 which I love for video, but I hate for timelapse (as I hate all the electronic aperture lenses that I sometimes forget to stop down and decouple) but then how viable is the M for timelapse anyway, no remote port, no internal intervalometer... and the extra stop would make a significan't difference for astro, big jump between iso 1600 and 3200...
So I guess the proposition is, getting a more vanilla 16mm that works with everything today and most probably tomorrow (including the duffer x0d bodies I buy cheap for knackering with timelapse) or get the more exciting 12mm which might never be any use for any other camera than one of the m's (or a third I may dedicate to ml timelapse) m's are so cheap just now, but will that be the case in 3 years? will they even be around in 3 years?
So, informed opinion on the first bit please, musings from anybody on the second point, if you will...
I'm looking for feedback from anybody WHO HAS ACTUALLY OWNED AND USED SPECIFICALLY. the Samyang 12mm f2.0 mirrorless or 16mm f2.0 APS-C lenses.
I know theres a lot of samyang bashing generally because some folk can only use af, I'm not talking to those people.
I'm talking to the other people who have got over that. I already use their 85 and 35's. I'm happy with iq, happy with manual iris, happy with stop down metering, happy with mf..
I want to hear from folk who are on that page, but have specific feedback good or bad about the 12mm f2 or 16mm f2.
On a more general subject (the slack-jawed belly rumblers may chip in here with something they read or even came up with themselves - it's a more conceptual question, so ill informed hypothesis is as welcome as any other...) do you think it is a waste of time buying ef-m lenses for the long ball game?
Here's my dilemma..
I shoot mainly video.
I am very happy to shoot on aps-c and have no issue buying dc dx ef-s etc lenses from canon or anybody else, as I'm not going full frame.
I have a 7d / 60d combo and 2x Ms.
I want a third manual lens, wide angle this time, for video work, especially timelapse, where the manual iris is a gift.
I do a lot of timelapse.
If I get the ef-m mount 12 then I can only ever use it on an m. Fine just now. But what about in 2 years when I'm being asked for 4k video?
If I get the 16 then I can use it on the m or on a 7d x0d class or rebel or cx00 class... but it's maybe just not as wide as I would wish after the 1.6x crop..
I already have the tokina 11-16 which I love for video, but I hate for timelapse (as I hate all the electronic aperture lenses that I sometimes forget to stop down and decouple) but then how viable is the M for timelapse anyway, no remote port, no internal intervalometer... and the extra stop would make a significan't difference for astro, big jump between iso 1600 and 3200...
So I guess the proposition is, getting a more vanilla 16mm that works with everything today and most probably tomorrow (including the duffer x0d bodies I buy cheap for knackering with timelapse) or get the more exciting 12mm which might never be any use for any other camera than one of the m's (or a third I may dedicate to ml timelapse) m's are so cheap just now, but will that be the case in 3 years? will they even be around in 3 years?
So, informed opinion on the first bit please, musings from anybody on the second point, if you will...