Poll: What will be the price of first EOS M?

[Mt Spokane Photography]

Body only, $799, with lens $999

How many of the body only units do you think would sell? You at least need one lens, or a adapter. They might sell a body only after a year or so, but it will be a kit to start out. The rumor is that a adapter will also be in the kit, which makes sense, but increases the price.
I would not buy one without the adapter and lens.

 

[archangelrichard]

about the same as the T3 or less

I don't see it being the equal of an SLR (they might equal the price of the Nikon - WITH the adapter and lens bundled -- no body only)

Coincidentally look at the lens 22mm. What other camera has a sensor where 22mm would equal 50mm on a full frame (hint! NOT an APS-C)

 

[Aglet]

I think it'll be around $900 with the 18-55mm kit lens
The G1x should be down around $650-700 and could fall there with the new M on the scene.

 

[zim]

£495 ~ $773.34 same price as a 550D with kit lens

 

[mb66energy]

My guess:
Body only 549 or 599
Adaptor: +149
2.0/22mm: +249
4.0/18-55: +399

18-55: f/4.0 is just my GUESS - Canon has to take some advantage off a new mount system - as we can see for the 2.0/22mm lens ...

Body only should be well priced below T4i because it is much easier to built: No mirror/screen/AF-sensor array/cocking mechanism for mirror PLUS no (nearly!) external controls, less material, etc.
Sensor is mass product (if it isn't a totally new sonsor, I do not expect this), Digic V is mass product (5 or10 $), TFT touchscreen displays are mass product (thanks to smart phone boom) ... the rest is a little bit PCB an a shutter mechanism - too mass products.

 

[marekjoz]

So far (130 votes), the expected announced price tag of the new "Canon EOS M body only" was roughly estimated by 113 canonrumors users at 740$ (+/-50$).
Will Canon listen to you? ;D

 

[HarryWintergreen]

Is Canon aiming at people attending this forum? I'm afraid this is not the case. So they will be wanting to set foot on the mass market, i.e. 400-599.
btw, I think Canon has already written the G1X off, so pricing should not be dependent of the G1X sales.
In the end all I still dare to hope for is a decent mirrorless with an articulated screen that is still pocketable.

 

[moreorless]

Figure a reasonable price and double it.
$599 X 2 + $1195 for the kit with 22mm lens and M to EF adapter..

You think they can make it 300$ above the T4i kit and a 100$ above 60d kit?
Looking at initial poll votes we can see, how unpredictable this product is

Very possibly. If the G1X is priced at $800, the mirrorless APS-C with interchangable lens ($200) plus M to EF Adapter ($200) will cost a bundle. I do not expect a body only version, since a lens or at least M to EF adapter is needed and no one has any lenses that fit it right now. I would not consider a body only at first.

Compare it with other Mirrorless Cameras, not DSLR's. Thats why Canon is releasing a mirrorless, they seem to be made of gold, and Canon is not going to let Sony or Fujii out price them. Unfortunately, Nikon 1 with its tiny sensor V1 does not compete.

Sony Nex 7 Kit $1349 http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Compact-Interchangeable-Camera-18-55mm/dp/B005IKZU8O/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1342828726&sr=1-1&keywords=nex+7+sony

Fujii X100 Black kit $1599 ($1199 std kit) http://www.amazon.com/Fujifilm-X100-Digital-2-8-Inch-Special/dp/B006UL2VKK/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1342828832&sr=1-2&keywords=fuji+x100

I see it as a rather different situation to the X100/X1pro though, Fuji was offering an even more prenium version of an already prenium product, Canon's mirrorless looks to be less prenium than the G1X in many reguards, worse lens, fewer manual controls, no viewfinder etc.

I wouldnt be supprized if they price in pretty highly at launch(dropping alot within 6 months) to cash in on the mirrorless fadsters but $1200 seems excessive to me, I'd expect $800 to be the top end of the pricing with either the 22mm or 18-55mm in a kit, perhaps with a more expensive one with both and an EF adaptor aswell.

 

[moreorless]

My guess:
Body only 549 or 599
Adaptor: +149
2.0/22mm: +249
4.0/18-55: +399

18-55: f/4.0 is just my GUESS - Canon has to take some advantage off a new mount system - as we can see for the 2.0/22mm lens

The problem there though is that your not really offering a budget kit zoom which is really the lifeblood of an entry level system be it mirrorles sor DSLR.

My guess is Canon will view the 22mm as there systems key advanatge over Sony, beyond that I think a small/cheap ultrawide zoom perhaps makes more sense.

 

[marekjoz]

My guess:
Body only 549 or 599
Adaptor: +149
2.0/22mm: +249
4.0/18-55: +399

18-55: f/4.0 is just my GUESS - Canon has to take some advantage off a new mount system - as we can see for the 2.0/22mm lens

The problem there though is that your not really offering a budget kit zoom which is really the lifeblood of an entry level system be it mirrorles sor DSLR.

My guess is Canon will view the 22mm as there systems key advanatge over Sony, beyond that I think a small/cheap ultrawide zoom perhaps makes more sense.

As just announced, when offered with 22mm f/2, on APS-C it becomes a classic street pocket camera.

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

Now that we can be reasonably sure that not only is it mirrorless, but has no viewfinder as well, I'm going to revise my price downward, since its not a serious camera.
I expect $599 for the body plus extra for the kit depending on whats included, so about $799 with 18-55mm zoom.
Too bad about the viewfinder, I've lost interest. Outdoors in bright sun, there would be no way to see and frame a image, nuch less check critical focus. I guess you could buy a hood for the lcd, but whats the point, when even the G1 X has a viewfinder of sorts.

 

[mb66energy]

Now that we can be reasonably sure that not only is it mirrorless, but has no viewfinder as well, I'm going to revise my price downward, since its not a serious camera.
I expect $599 for the body plus extra for the kit depending on whats included, so about $799 with 18-55mm zoom.
Too bad about the viewfinder, I've lost interest. Outdoors in bright sun, there would be no way to see and frame a image, nuch less check critical focus. I guess you could buy a hood for the lcd, but whats the point, when even the G1 X has a viewfinder of sorts.

I will buy a black cloth with the camera - as in the good old times ...

Is it a serious camera? Don't know. Definitly not for sports or wildlife action. But perhaps for landscape, studio and portrait setting.

I would use such a camera as ONE SYSTEM for
1. always available camera - e.g. with the 22mm lens
2. movie cam to do first steps in short movies
(have some ideas where i need 16mm equiv and short DOF with my 2.0 100mm)

Hopefully you are right with your price estimate - I agree with your arguments.

Best - Michael

 

[marekjoz]

Now that we can be reasonably sure that not only is it mirrorless, but has no viewfinder as well, I'm going to revise my price downward, since its not a serious camera.
I expect $599 for the body plus extra for the kit depending on whats included, so about $799 with 18-55mm zoom.
Too bad about the viewfinder, I've lost interest. Outdoors in bright sun, there would be no way to see and frame a image, nuch less check critical focus. I guess you could buy a hood for the lcd, but whats the point, when even the G1 X has a viewfinder of sorts.

But there was no viewfinder on photos, since they were published. For me it was quite clear, that the only option for viewfinder would be an electronic only.
Regarding the price, I hope we won't be surprised by Canon quite the opposite way as while you're not interested in this one, let's remember, that most likely there are other to follow and what will see tomorrow will set the reference for the next mirrorless from Canon.

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

Now that we can be reasonably sure that not only is it mirrorless, but has no viewfinder as well, I'm going to revise my price downward, since its not a serious camera.
I expect $599 for the body plus extra for the kit depending on whats included, so about $799 with 18-55mm zoom.
Too bad about the viewfinder, I've lost interest. Outdoors in bright sun, there would be no way to see and frame a image, nuch less check critical focus. I guess you could buy a hood for the lcd, but whats the point, when even the G1 X has a viewfinder of sorts.

But there was no viewfinder on photos, since they were published. For me it was quite clear, that the only option for viewfinder would be an electronic only.
Regarding the price, I hope we won't be surprised by Canon quite the opposite way as while you're not interested in this one, let's remember, that most likely there are other to follow and what will see tomorrow will set the reference for the next mirrorless from Canon.

I missed that in the photos, I guess I assumed something as basic a necessity as a viewfinder. I guess its another point and hope camera.

I'm sure that a lot of people will be happy to use one without a viewfinder. Many of them will be buyers who picked up one in a dark store and liked what they saw on the rear LCD, and only discovered how difficult it is to use outdoors. I've tried the black cloth method BTW, and it works unless the wind is blowing, but at best it is a PITA. When you plan to invest $$$$ in a new system, it needs to be a little better than that.
Canon may have a accessory viewfinder, which would bring the price for a kit with lens, adapter, and viewfinder back up to $1195.

 

[Vaz]

I voted 600 to 800. I'm a little optimistic though. I'm willing to pay 600 for a 22mm kit. Something tells me cannon is going to release it at much more than that though. I'm really interested in eventually getting one of these, but if it can't be price competitive with the NEX system, then what's the point really?

 

[marekjoz]

Thank you all for participating in the poll!
As we already know the prices, it's time for a summary:
- 131 people voted
- 152 votes collected
- 138 votes took into account - 10% of total number votes rejected (7 lowest and 7 highest)
- finally projected body only price: 729$ +/- 50$

As the announced price of a kit with 22 f2 was set at 799$, I think that we matched the price of the "body only" quite well.

Although the research was not quite scientific , I've learnt something from this poll: people here can estimate the price of the new Canon gear quite accurate! Maybe it means, that Canon has done it's market research quite good as well

 

[wickidwombat]

Although the research was not quite scientific , I've learnt something from this poll: people here can estimate the price of the new Canon gear quite accurate! Maybe it means, that Canon has done it's market research quite good as well

or it means we are fast learners from the punishing prices of late
except for the 40mm f2.8 that is that little gem is worth the $200 easy