Describe the 6D in one word...
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It's hard for me to think of a single word to define the 6D, since I do not understand what Canon wants with it, as it is clearly confusing even for many of us here. Mainly (looking at the voting poll) I see two groups: one group saying that this is the FF Rebel, the other one calling it "the true replacement of the 5D Mark II". Let's start from these two groups.
1) If it is meant to be the FF Rebel: It won't succeed, as I do not think that a Rebel user will ever jump into FF without SEARCHING, READING and COMPARING first. Remember, we're not talking about "smurthphone photographers" or point 'n shoot customers here, jumping squeaking in joy with a bunch o' dollars to burn into the FF segment. We're not even talking about "four X" Canoneers (as in 1000D). We're talking about Canon users with 2-3 years of DSLR experience. And a pretty much GOOD experience, with bodies that used to deliver every bang for all the buck.
At this point, I would insert a group split:
a) Rebelers with non-expensive lenses and
b) Rebelers with expensive lenses.
Group a) won't bite the bait, since they will SEARCH, READ & COMPARE the 6D with D600 and frankly I do not see any reason not to jump ship. I definitely would do it. Group b) won't bite the bait, as I would really doubt that someone with expensive lens would pick a 6D with crippled specs for their "long awaited, yearned for" FF.
2) If this is meant to be "the true replacement of the 5D Mark II", then this will again fail. Just from the specs alone, most of the current 5D2 users won't see this as an upgrade. We're living in times of crisis, we're living in times of higher expectations from technology. We're living in times of internet, fast information, instant customer feedback, and in times of competition already making better moves. That quick drop in the 5D3 price was a confirmation that something went wrong in those "high level marketing forecasts", "trend analysis" or whatever they call it at Canon's. I would guess the number of 5D2 users saying in March "this new 5D3 has to wait, I won't upgrade right now" was quite larger than Canon initially predicted. As others here already well stated, this would rather push up the sales on the 5D3, but won't do any good in the price segment where 6D wants to position itself.
So, what the heck is 6D? Well, if no one can bring up some interesting, plausible explanation here, then I'll have to say one word: failure.
1) If it is meant to be the FF Rebel: It won't succeed, as I do not think that a Rebel user will ever jump into FF without SEARCHING, READING and COMPARING first. Remember, we're not talking about "smurthphone photographers" or point 'n shoot customers here, jumping squeaking in joy with a bunch o' dollars to burn into the FF segment. We're not even talking about "four X" Canoneers (as in 1000D). We're talking about Canon users with 2-3 years of DSLR experience. And a pretty much GOOD experience, with bodies that used to deliver every bang for all the buck.
At this point, I would insert a group split:
a) Rebelers with non-expensive lenses and
b) Rebelers with expensive lenses.
Group a) won't bite the bait, since they will SEARCH, READ & COMPARE the 6D with D600 and frankly I do not see any reason not to jump ship. I definitely would do it. Group b) won't bite the bait, as I would really doubt that someone with expensive lens would pick a 6D with crippled specs for their "long awaited, yearned for" FF.
2) If this is meant to be "the true replacement of the 5D Mark II", then this will again fail. Just from the specs alone, most of the current 5D2 users won't see this as an upgrade. We're living in times of crisis, we're living in times of higher expectations from technology. We're living in times of internet, fast information, instant customer feedback, and in times of competition already making better moves. That quick drop in the 5D3 price was a confirmation that something went wrong in those "high level marketing forecasts", "trend analysis" or whatever they call it at Canon's. I would guess the number of 5D2 users saying in March "this new 5D3 has to wait, I won't upgrade right now" was quite larger than Canon initially predicted. As others here already well stated, this would rather push up the sales on the 5D3, but won't do any good in the price segment where 6D wants to position itself.
So, what the heck is 6D? Well, if no one can bring up some interesting, plausible explanation here, then I'll have to say one word: failure.
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6D in one word: Confusing
On an unrelated note, is it really too much to ask for dual card slots, given that Nikon provides it in the $1200 D7000, D300s and all models higher ?
On an unrelated note, is it really too much to ask for dual card slots, given that Nikon provides it in the $1200 D7000, D300s and all models higher ?
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disappointed. To a certain degree...Canon should have put the 7D autofocus system in the 6D. CF slots, or dual CF/SD and New sensor with 20MP or down to 18MP, Joystick control, 1/8000 top shutter, an M-Fn button, I was basically hoping for a full frame 7D. but then again this would have been an issue with the 5D mark III owners most likely....but ultimately until I use the camera in my hands and see how well it handles, I cannot make a decision either way on how much i will like the image files or the camera itself. I would maybe use it as a second body or back up. One interesting note is that it can autofocus at the center point down to -3 EV. I am with most of you as I am not sure how quickly some people will upgrade to this fullframe from a rebel or 5D mark II. I own the 7D and the 5D mark ii and I am looking to upgrade to the 5d Mark III and eventually pick up a 1d mark III or Mark IV for a second body for sports.
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The new Canon Eos PoopD series camera. We have a lot of exciting features no one uses right now but this is the future! State of the art nothing. All the focus system features of the failed 5d / 5dm2 with a much improved center point only focussing allowing center point only shooting to be brought to the next ev in performance that has ever been achieved, -3ev! Wow you guys wont believe it! maybe the 6dm3 will actually have multiple cross point focus system but we will have to decide later. 8)
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I have a 5DMkII and I am thinking 5DIII mainly for the focusing system, silent shooting and the increased speed. The idea of 6D makes me laugh! (anyway I have already stated my 1 word for 6D: joke!). Of course, if it was much cheaper it might appeal to Rebel users.
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DarkKnightNine
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well_dunno said:
Couldn't have said it better. Canon of late seems to be trying to get away with giving us as little as possible. I really don't understand it. If I were in charge of Canon I would be trying to tack on as much as possible to keep my customers happy within all price ranges.
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Couldn't have said it better. Canon of late seems to be trying to get away with giving us as little as possible. I really don't understand it. If I were in charge of Canon I would be trying to tack on as much as possible to keep my customers happy within all price ranges.
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Ill vote you in right now if i can bring you coffee and be your caddy. 8)
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Ill vote you in right now if i can bring you coffee and be your caddy. 8)
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Letoneliul said:Hi, I've been wanting a full frame, and really the prices on used 5dmk2s are around $500 cheaper than this new 6D. Sure the 6D is arguably better on most accounts, but is it $500 better?
well that depends a lot on the IQ.
if canon managed to get banding free shadows that would make up for some shortcomings.
but still the AF is a lackluster. imagine how much better the 6D could be with a better AF.
even a AF similiar to the 60D would be welcome now.
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6D for me is a good landscape photogear for people with average financial capability. It is a little bit overpriced. If it can go down 1700 or below, it will be a fantastic camera. Advanced amateur sports photogs should get 7D2 anyway...
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