Estimate the price/body size of the new rumored Canon Megapixel Monster...

[nicku]

Many of Canonrumors forum members are estimating different prices or body type for the newly rumored Canon Big Megapixel Monster that eventually will be released as a response to Nikon D800.
Let's see the centralized opinion of the forum users...

 

[Cannon Man]

I'm betting 1D sized and 11 000$

 

[caMARYnon]

I'm betting 1D sized and 11 000$

me too, maybe 9999

 

[well_dunno]

Hi,

I voted for 5D body 3500-5000 range. Ever since I became a member of this forum, Canon has been great at releasing products at price points which I would have considered to be marketing harakiris before the releases. In other words, my guesses are generally inaccurate so they probably release a 1D body...

Cheers!

 

[Cannon Man]

They don't have to follow what Nikon is doing. They chose to go with a lower megapixel 5D III.
If i was canon i would make a real flagship camera with high megapixels and with the added funding from higher price concentrate on high image quality and dynamic range.

If you think they should follow nikons D800 then why does not Nikon follow Canon's 5D III?

 

[nicku]

They don't have to follow what Nikon is doing. They chose to go with a lower megapixel 5D III.
If i was canon i would make a real flagship camera with high megapixels and with the added funding from higher price concentrate on high image quality and dynamic range.

If you think they should follow nikons D800 then why does not Nikon follow Canon's 5D III?

Canon AND Nikon are developing their business based mainly on the market feedback, but when they develop new cameras, technology they do it with one eye to the competition.

Regarding Nikon not fallowing Canon... how the Nikon D700 appears???.... I believe as a response to the 5D.

 

[Timothy_Bruce]

I think it will take the place and price of the now a bit old 1Ds3

 

[well_dunno]

I would also say D800 is produced with the successful logic of 5D mk2. Canon has had two cams with the same sensor though, the 1Dsmk3 and the 5dmk2. 5D mk3 is out so 1Ds line is empty for now. Canon might decide to go with a 3D-4D kind of middle model to address 5D2 owners unhappy about 5D3 specs as well as 1Ds3 owners. Alternatively they can launch two cams one pure 1Ds line and a D800 competitor.

Nikon currently does not have a successor for their 3Dx line but a D800. Coming with a 1Ds line cam and a high price tag is going to leave D800 alone in that market segment. I imagine mid-lower end FF market is bigger than the market for top of the line cams...

Just my 2 cents - Canon is usually doing what I think they should not out of a business point of view... :

Cheers!

 

[ScottyP]

I can't picture it being the 1D size/pricepoint. Seems like in the past the 1D bodies were not the megapixel leaders, as they focused more on IQ and durability and ergonomics, etc..

 

[AmbientLight]

My reasoning is that the new model will come in a 1D body with a pricetag similar to, but possibly a bit lower compared to the 1D-X. Why?

Without Nikon's D800 in the market I would expect Canon to use a price tag higher than the 1D-X, because then they would compete only with medium format cameras or the older D3X, which would enable Canon to confidently ask for a very high price tag, without customers likely to complain about it.

Now given that people are purchasing D800s Canon is likely to use a lower market entry price to divert a significant amount of consumers, who might otherwise purchase D800s.

I do hope that this is not only wishful thinking on my side.

 

[dstppy]

One Dollar, Bob!

 

[Ricku]

No way this camera is going to be 1D size. What a waste that would be.

As if our camerabags aren't heavy enough already?

No landscapers wanna carry around a big bulky elephant camera.

 

[AmbientLight]

You do appear to ignore that there are people shooting other people in studios. A 5D body format won't do any good to people shooting a lot in portrait orientation.

Landscape photographers are not the only target group and I suspect landscape photographers are not even the primary target group. Do you see many people running around shooting landscapes with medium format cameras? I can't remember seeing a single one. For sure there may be some, who do, but not too many.

 

[K-amps]

Marketing's greed will overcome Engineering's logic... The Camera is supposed to compete with the D800... but I will not be surprised if this is a 1Ds mk.IV...

 

[Ricku]

You do appear to ignore that there are people shooting other people in studios. A 5D body format won't do any good to people shooting a lot in portrait orientation.

Landscape photographers are not the only target group and I suspect landscape photographers are not even the primary target group. Do you see many people running around shooting landscapes with medium format cameras? I can't remember seeing a single one. For sure there may be some, who do, but not too many.

So?

The ones who really needs the extra bulk can just buy a grip for the camera.

But we who don't want the extra bulk (and weight), can't remove the built in grip from a 1D camera.

 

[Loswr]

The ones who really needs the extra bulk can just buy a grip for the camera.

But we who don't want the extra bulk (and weight), can't remove the built in grip from a 1D camera.

Does anyone need bulk? It's more about balance and feel. Also, 'just adding the grip' is not an ideal solution - the ergonomics of the 1-series are far superior (written by someone who shot with three different gripped bodies before getting a 1-series). The 1-series is also more comfortable to hold, because the grip doesn't bulge on both sides to accomodate the batteries. Finally, I was always bothered by the flex between grip and body when attaching the gripped body to a tripod - not an issue with an integrated grip.

 

[Tammy]

I would also say D800 is produced with the successful logic of 5D mk2. Canon has had two cams with the same sensor though, the 1Dsmk3 and the 5dmk2. 5D mk3 is out so 1Ds line is empty for now. Canon might decide to go with a 3D-4D kind of middle model to address 5D2 owners unhappy about 5D3 specs as well as 1Ds3 owners. Alternatively they can launch two cams one pure 1Ds line and a D800 competitor.

I also think that Canon may consider going back to its previous model line with a high megapixel sensor in a 1D body and the same sensor in a 5D body named the 3/4D and priced in $4,000 range. This would give Canon the most comprehensive lineup of SLRs, covering all segments of the market.

 

[bdunbar79]

I would also say D800 is produced with the successful logic of 5D mk2. Canon has had two cams with the same sensor though, the 1Dsmk3 and the 5dmk2. 5D mk3 is out so 1Ds line is empty for now. Canon might decide to go with a 3D-4D kind of middle model to address 5D2 owners unhappy about 5D3 specs as well as 1Ds3 owners. Alternatively they can launch two cams one pure 1Ds line and a D800 competitor.

Nikon currently does not have a successor for their 3Dx line but a D800. Coming with a 1Ds line cam and a high price tag is going to leave D800 alone in that market segment. I imagine mid-lower end FF market is bigger than the market for top of the line cams...

Just my 2 cents - Canon is usually doing what I think they should not out of a business point of view... :

Cheers!

Um, the 1Ds line is GONE and is no more (hint: The 1D X).

 

[robbymack]

My guess, 5d type body at $4000-4500 at introduction. That would fit nicely in the line up.

I am sure regardless of the price, specs, or body style their will be several of you rushing to start the next "I'm moving to nikon" thread.

 

[well_dunno]

Um, the 1Ds line is GONE and is no more (hint: The 1D X).

I was referring to a 1D type body by 1Ds line, perhaps 1Dxs as NL suggests? (I know Keith is discredited for the inaccurate 1Ds mk 4 rumors but anyway)

Either case, my guess is 5D type high MP body to sit between 1 and 5 lines...

Cheers!