EOS 6D Mark II To Shrink & Move Upmarket [CR2]

[Canon Rumors]

We’re told the EOS 6D Mark II, which isn’t expected until early 2016 at the earliest, will move upmarket “slightly” in features and pricing.</p>
<p>We’re told again that a big goal with the camera is a smaller size and lighter weight, without sacrificing build quality. The camera will have its own full frame sensor, just like the current camera, along with the addition of NFC. Canon is also working on a “new connectivity feature” that may appear first in the EOS 6D Mark II, but it still in its infancy.</p>
<p>There “won’t be anything groundbreaking” in the EOS 6D Mark II, but the goal is to make it a good evolutionary upgrade. Expect bigger things from the EOS 5D Mark IV and EOS-1D X Mark II.</p>
<p>It’s far too early to expect any sort of specifications leak, as we’re nowhere near that being finalized.</p>

 

[7enderbender]

And how does "smaller and lighter" correlate with "upmarket"?

 

[Canon Rumors]

And how does "smaller and lighter" correlate with "upmarket"?

Smaller and lighter without losing build quality.....

Whether Canon likes it or not, the EOS 6D line will be competing against cameras such as the A7 series. Size and weight have started to matter...

I expect the EOS-1D X Mark II to shed some weight.

 

[Bernard]

My wife would love this. She finds the current 6D just a little too big, she prefers the Rebel T5/T6 form factor. It will probably be a killer lightweight combo with the 24-70 f:4.

 

[jeffa4444]

The smaller & lighter whilst retaining MOST of the atributes of the current camera would seal the deal for me the 6D is a great landscape / travel camera. The one thing I want Canon to address is the low level pattern / banding noise of the present sensor which shows up if you have fog or grey skies in your shots its almost impossible to remove in LR.
Secondly they should address the GPS remaining on when you turn the camera off if its enabled as this drains the battery rapidly.

 

[degos]

Yet another Canon item moving up the ladder in pricing. Really fed-up with this constant escalation. So much for being the 'affordable' full-frame option.

My upcoming full-frame choice will be between a second-hand 6D1 or the Sony A7. I think Canon loses either way.

I wonder what stratospheric price they have in mind for the 5D4.

 

[jeffa4444]

Yet another Canon item moving up the ladder in pricing. Really fed-up with this constant escalation. So much for being the 'affordable' full-frame option.

My upcoming full-frame choice will be between a second-hand 6D1 or the Sony A7. I think Canon loses either way.

I wonder what stratospheric price they have in mind for the 5D4.

The operative word though was "slightly" so I dont think it will move up to the current 5D MKIII pricing and it may spawn a new entry level full-frame camera.

 

[jeffa4444]

Would not be surprised to see Canon competitively align the 6DMKII against the Nikon D750, keep the current 6D to compete against the Nikon D610 until a new camera comes out. From a pricing point of view that would make sense with the 5DMK4 competing against the Nikon D810 as the cureent 5DMKIII does.

 

[bdunbar79]

Would not be surprised to see Canon competitively align the 6DMKII against the Nikon D750, keep the current 6D to compete against the Nikon D610 until a new camera comes out. From a pricing point of view that would make sense with the 5DMK4 competing against the Nikon D810 as the cureent 5DMKIII does.

And subsequently keep winning.

 

[Sith Zombie]

Not sure I like the price increase part, but if they add dpaf and a swivel screen then I'm in!

 

[Luds34]

I think the size of the current 6D is fine. If they make it a little smaller, sure great. But with any real glass mounted the body size becomes less and less of a factor. Right now a 6D with say a 16-35 f/4 or 24-70 f/4 has good balance. And with a small prime like the 35 f/2 IS it is a joy to bring along anywhere.

After playing around with my Tamron 150-600 this weekend on both the 70D and the 6D, I can reiterate my number one improvement would be the focus system. Give me more points, covering more of the frame, and all cross type.

A distant 2nd to the focus system, the 1/4000th shutter limit. More so now then ever, with mirrorless cameras having electronic shutters going to 1/32000, you at least need the 1/8000.

 

[lholmes549]

I don't see the 6D as being "too big" for a start, but I will always welcome reductions in size and weight if the build quality is not compromised and ergonomics are still good. My hands prefer a bigger body, but when I'm carrying it on my back I'd rather have an A7r than a full frame Canon body.

I can't see the 6D II being something I'll buy though as the 6D is more than good enough for my needs. I really love the fact that Canon made a cheaper way into full frame, allowing me to get great IQ without all the bells and whistles you pay for with the 5D III.

 

[lw]

Perhaps "smaller & lighter" is a result of using this http://www.canonrumors.com/2015/06/patent-canon-improved-mirror-af-at-high-fps/

 

[Sith Zombie]

I think the size of the current 6D is fine. If they make it a little smaller, sure great. But with any real glass mounted the body size becomes less and less of a factor. Right now a 6D with say a 16-35 f/4 or 24-70 f/4 has good balance. And with a small prime like the 35 f/2 IS it is a joy to bring along anywhere.

After playing around with my Tamron 150-600 this weekend on both the 70D and the 6D, I can reiterate my number one improvement would be the focus system. Give me more points, covering more of the frame, and all cross type.

A distant 2nd to the focus system, the 1/4000th shutter limit. More so now then ever, with mirrorless cameras having electronic shutters going to 1/32000, you at least need the 1/8000.

I think maybe they'll whack the 19 point system in the 6dmkii as it's now become canon's lowest spec af. Whether or not they'll all be cross type is the question.....

 

[Sith Zombie]

The smaller & lighter whilst retaining MOST of the atributes of the current camera would seal the deal for me the 6D is a great landscape / travel camera. The one thing I want Canon to address is the low level pattern / banding noise of the present sensor which shows up if you have fog or grey skies in your shots its almost impossible to remove in LR.
Secondly they should address the GPS remaining on when you turn the camera off if its enabled as this drains the battery rapidly.

With regards to the sensor, I think the key will be seeing what the 5dmkiv offers. If its touting better performance, I think it's fair to say we'll see those increases in the 6dmkii sensor too.

 

[bereninga]

I think the 6D needs one major improvement: a better AF system. It'll be interesting to see how this camera can get better features AND become smaller AND still be priced below the 5DIII. Is this possible?

Also, what benefit is NFC vs wi-fi in a camera?

 

[TeT]

My wife would love this. She finds the current 6D just a little too big, she prefers the Rebel T5/T6 form factor. It will probably be a killer lightweight combo with the 24-70 f:4.

+1

 

[TeT]

Yet another Canon item moving up the ladder in pricing. Really fed-up with this constant escalation. So much for being the 'affordable' full-frame option.

My upcoming full-frame choice will be between a second-hand 6D1 or the Sony A7. I think Canon loses either way.

I wonder what stratospheric price they have in mind for the 5D4.

not just canon... What do you think the pricing on the next A7 variation will be, how about the Nikon D900 (or whatever it will be)

How much was the 6D on day one?

The 5D4 will be comparable to what the 5D3 + inflation was when it came out...

 

[SilverSnake]

Yet another Canon item moving up the ladder in pricing. Really fed-up with this constant escalation

This is hardly a phenomenon unique to the camera industry. It's quite common to have quality, amount of features and thus also price slowly climb upwards with new cheaper alternatives being introduced below that. Same thing happens with cars. Over the years even "cheap" and "low budget" type brands becomes better equipped and higher quality, as their customers expect improvement from year to year, and then all new brands are introduced at the bottom of the ladder. And repeat.

Personally I'd like for the 6D2 to climb a fair bit, because I'd love a 5D-level camera with GPS and I'm feeling that the 5D4 may not get a GPS, but unless the 6D2 jumps a fair bit I'm not sure that is going to fit my needs in other areas.

 

[super_newbie_pro]

WTF... The Sony products will become much more interesting ... And the Nikon D750 is already less than 2000 € ... I would not buy 6D MK II if the price exceeds € 2000 . I wait until March for my purchase, if you have the info that goes in this direction , I would be either at sony with A7(x) or nikon.