An Update to the EOS 70D Coming Soon? [CR1]

[Canon Rumors]

We’re told that Canon will have some kind of an update to the EOS 70D before we see an 80D. Perhaps an EOS 70Da?</p>
<p>While the source didn’t know the name of the new camera, they did give us the following info.</p>
<ul>
<li>Same AF system as 70D</li>
<li>24 megapixel sensor with dual-pixel AF</li>
<li>A bit larger buffer</li>
<li>DIGIC 6.</li>
</ul>
<p>We were not given an announcement date for the camera. If such a camera is coming soon, CES in January would be the likely announcement time. </p>

 

[Chaitanya]

Re: An Update to the EOS 70D Coming? [CR1]

so a midlife upgrade to delay the successor? I thought Canon might actually provide a big firmware update like they did with 7D to keep camera releavent.

 

[Orangutan]

Re: An Update to the EOS 70D Coming? [CR1]



A 70Da I would understand, but how does it make sense to offer a camera that's worth the R&D process, but is still not "enough" to be an 80D? Maybe they have some big new tech to drop in the 80D, but need a bridge solution. CR1, after all.

Another possibility is that someone saw a 70D in use as a test-bed for a new sensor. That would make some sense.

 

[Plainsman]

Re: An Update to the EOS 70D Coming? [CR1]

... trying to catch up with the D7100....

 

[ajfotofilmagem]

Re: An Update to the EOS 70D Coming? [CR1]

A 70Da I would understand, but how does it make sense to offer a camera that's worth the R&D process, but is still not "enough" to be an 80D? Maybe they have some big new tech to drop in the 80D, but need a bridge solution. CR1, after all.

Another possibility is that someone saw a 70D in use as a test-bed for a new sensor. That would make some sense.

You read my mind. I agree with the possibility of a new 70Da, and on Canon 70D using a body to test a new sensor.

 

[9VIII]

Re: An Update to the EOS 70D Coming? [CR1]

This gives me hope that the 80D is full frame. I was thinking they would take that route until they started talking about resolutiuon so much, but if they just do a mid-cycle upgrade for the 70D then they could push both resolution and full frame.
This begs the question then, if they boost the 70D, how about the 7D?

 

[9VIII]

Re: An Update to the EOS 70D Coming? [CR1]

... trying to catch up with the D7100....

I hope not.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/nikon-d7200/nikon-d7200A6.HTM

Continuous H mode
14-bit Lossless RAW

0.20 second (4.89 frames per second);

(Yes, that's the D7200, but we should be comparing with Nikon's latest and greatest.)

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

Re: An Update to the EOS 70D Coming? [CR1]

This gives me hope that the 80D is full frame. I was thinking they would take that route until they started talking about resolutiuon so much, but if they just do a mid-cycle upgrade for the 70D then they could push both resolution and full frame.
This begs the question then, if they boost the 70D, how about the 7D?

Forget about a 80D being full frame. XXD cameras are crop A 8D might be the FF equivalent

 

[ScottyP]

Re: An Update to the EOS 70D Coming? [CR1]

A 70Da I would understand, but how does it make sense to offer a camera that's worth the R&D process, but is still not "enough" to be an 80D? Maybe they have some big new tech to drop in the 80D, but need a bridge solution. CR1, after all.

Another possibility is that someone saw a 70D in use as a test-bed for a new sensor. That would make some sense.

You read my mind. I agree with the possibility of a new 70Da, and on Canon 70D using a body to test a new sensor.

Is there a precedent for an "a" camera? I have seen an Astro version of the 60d, but that seems like a fairly small market already covered by the 60d version. That is not what you guys mean, is it?

 

[ajfotofilmagem]

Re: An Update to the EOS 70D Coming? [CR1]

A 70Da I would understand, but how does it make sense to offer a camera that's worth the R&D process, but is still not "enough" to be an 80D? Maybe they have some big new tech to drop in the 80D, but need a bridge solution. CR1, after all.

Another possibility is that someone saw a 70D in use as a test-bed for a new sensor. That would make some sense.

You read my mind. I agree with the possibility of a new 70Da, and on Canon 70D using a body to test a new sensor.

Is there a precedent for an "a" camera? I have seen an Astro version of the 60d, but that seems like a fairly small market already covered by the 60d version. That is not what you guys mean, is it?

Whereas Canon 60Da is no longer manufactured, it would be natural substitute a 70Da that leverages almost all already available parts, saving development cost.

 

[Proscribo]

Re: An Update to the EOS 70D Coming? [CR1]

This gives me hope that the 80D is full frame. I was thinking they would take that route until they started talking about resolutiuon so much, but if they just do a mid-cycle upgrade for the 70D then they could push both resolution and full frame.
This begs the question then, if they boost the 70D, how about the 7D?

What? Why on earth would XXD camera be FF. I think the closest camera is 5DIII or the possible 6DII, I'm personally 99,999999999% sure that 80D won't be FF, there's simply no point making it into one.

Forget about a 80D being full frame. XXD cameras are crop A 8D might be the FF equivalent

Yes, 8D would probably be FF, however I'd think it would be pretty much a 6D specs-wise, maybe in even smaller body? It would actually make sense as 6D is in every way (I think?) worse than 7DII apart from the sensor.

 

[9VIII]

Re: An Update to the EOS 70D Coming? [CR1]

This gives me hope that the 80D is full frame. I was thinking they would take that route until they started talking about resolutiuon so much, but if they just do a mid-cycle upgrade for the 70D then they could push both resolution and full frame.
This begs the question then, if they boost the 70D, how about the 7D?

What? Why on earth would XXD camera be FF. I think the closest camera is 5DIII or the possible 6DII, I'm personally 99,999999999% sure that 80D won't be FF, there's simply no point making it into one.

Forget about a 80D being full frame. XXD cameras are crop A 8D might be the FF equivalent

Yes, 8D would probably be FF, however I'd think it would be pretty much a 6D specs-wise, maybe in even smaller body? It would actually make sense as 6D is in every way (I think?) worse than 7DII apart from the sensor.

The 6D is already the same price as the 7D2 (or less), and the 7D already breaks the idea of "single digit = FF". The 6D2 is "moving upmarket" which makes sense given that it's probably just going to be a wi-fi enabled 5D3.
With the 7D filling the "high end crop" space, and the 760D effectively taking the same space as the 70D, really there's no need to make another xxD body ever again.
Or they could use that space to launch their $1,000 full frame body.

 

[Proscribo]

Re: An Update to the EOS 70D Coming? [CR1]

The 6D is already the same price as the 7D2 (or less), and the 7D already breaks the idea of "single digit = FF". The 6D2 is "moving upmarket" which makes sense given that it's probably just going to be a wi-fi enabled 5D3.
With the 7D filling the "high end crop" space, and the 760D effectively taking the same space as the 70D, really there's no need to make another xxD body ever again.
Or they could use that space to launch their $1,000 full frame body.

There's plenty of room between 70D and 7DII for one body (90D would possibly do the same as 70D did with 7D, as in it could be almost 7DII). 760D is a bit like 70D but then again.. it's not even close, pentamirror, crappy buffer and slow burst, just to mention a few. Also you couldn't really make that FF camera have worse specs than 70D, which means that it would possibly be even better spec'd than 6DII with at least 7fps, flippy screen, good buffer, semi-weathersealed, for example.

I suppose that 6DII is best candidate for being your "FF 80D", or even current 5DIII.

 

[jolyonralph]

Unless it's specifically designed for astrophotography it won't be a 70Da

I would suspect if it's not an 80D (and why wouldn't it be? - we've had relatively minor increments in the past before, eg 600D to 650D and 10D to 20D) then a 75D might be more likely.

 

[AvTvM]

if there will be a successor at all. Let's face it. All Rebels and xxD mirrorflippers could be replaced with really great APSC-C mirrorless cameras plus EF/EF-S adapter in the box any day. Time to move on.

 

[Mitch.Conner]

Lots of misinformation about this one. Here are the facts:

- It will be full frame.
- It will have 12 fps continuous.
- It will be 60-70 MP.
- It will have 6k video.
- AF will be taken from the 5DIII.
- It will be $300-$400 MSRP initially, but the price will come down eventually to $20-$30.

Glad to be of help.

 

[Proscribo]

...
- It will be 60-70 MP.
...

Actually this gave me an idea: it'll have variable resolution! Something like 8MP-70MP would do it, choose whatever you want! 8)

 

[ashmadux]

Can only be a good thing.

70d is a beautiful camera with beautiful handling...and the only canon camera to use that 20mp sensor.

Im glad the one that i bought had completely busted AF, that's why i went ahead and bought my 5d3, which has GODLY AF.

It could be that they just want to move to one sensor so they dont have to produce that one anymore.

 

[midluk]

Re: An Update to the EOS 70D Coming? [CR1]

Perhaps they are trying to delay running out of names for xxD cameras? They only have 80D and 90D left.

 

[MintChocs]

I think you hit the nail on the head. In an effort to reduce costs and keep profits up as they did with the 18mp sensor.